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The thatcher government continued to support the Khmer Rouge after they were thrown out of Cambodia and the extent of their atrocities was realised.
They also supported Suharto and his dictatorship in Indonesia
The STW servers don't have adequate disk capacity for us to list about all the Labour sleaze and the successive mistakes they made!
My point was that Tony Blair banged on about erradicating sleaze. It was a key election manifesto pledge and he and his party spectacularly failed to deliver on this promise!
I did not say the Conservatives were perfect, of course they're not (are any politicians?).
Spongebob, it's the scale!
Thatcher: Pol Pot (not the guy of Britain's got talent), Suharto, Pinochet, Sadaam?
C'mon get some perspective
The STW servers don't have adequate disk capacity for us to list about all the Labour sleaze and the successive mistakes they made!
Google, Yahoo and Facebook's servers don't have the combined capacity to list all the Tory sleaze and corruption....
They all seem as bad as each other - get over it and go and ride your bike while the sun is still shining.
I've never voted Tory and hopefully never will.
Having said that, Tony Blair does have the stain of feeding the public BS to justify partaking in a war which has (according to the UN) so far cost around 100,000 lives...
There is nothing that can possibly redeem the man in my eyes after that.
They'd offer up the odd sacrificial lamb to appease [b]the left-wing press[/b] from time to time
What is this left-wing press of which you speak? Didn't realise the Morning Star had quite so much clout!
My point was that Tony Blair banged on about erradicating sleaze.
Is that from the same hypocrisy bucket as Thatcher talking about "family values?"
Spongebrain - are you so bitter because the education system failed you so badly?
Vote for Labour everytime as I don't want a progressive, intelligent, successful and influential UK in the world.
I want a Maxist state that has an army to rival North Korea and everyone learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
Ingrowing not thinking bigger is the key.
On a brighter note:
Tories **** each other
Labour **** the economy.
learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
surely more of a core subject at the Oxbridge feeder schools rather than the local comprehensive
Spongebob - is your memory that short? Are you old enough to remeber the tory sleaze?
Now Labour have been responsible for some fairly smelly deals but nothing on the scale of the Tories.
Cabinet ministers lying in court and getting jailed? Attempts to bribe witnesses to court cases? Lying under oath in foreign courts and then having to admit it? Envelopes stuffed full of money changing hands? Open bribery? The PMs son taking cash bribes?
There is a difference of scale - both in the seriousness of the cases and in the number of them.
hora - Member
Vote for Labour everytime as I don't want a progressive, intelligent, successful and influential UK in the world.I want a Maxist state that has an army to rival North Korea and everyone learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
Ingrowing not thinking bigger is the key.
Dear oh dear oh dear.
Have you got an ingrowing brain, Hora?
Binners, don't let him drink any more please. It's not kind.
They all seem as bad as each other - get over it and go and ride your bike while the sun is still shining.
I just did thanks.
Why is it that socialists always revert to personal abuse of the people they don't agree with? I feel honoured to be singled out so often, it's inspirational! 😈
Actually, "BigButSlimmerBloke", I could take your spelling of my name "Spongebrain" as a compliment! Afterall, I do absorb a great deal of what is going on around me, especially here and the misguided repeated diatribes against the Conservative party.
President Robert Mugabe.
He's probably too respectable though.
binners - Membererm.... isn't the point that they'd ALL make labour unelectable? Labour just is unelectable at the moment.
And yet the latest opinion poll would suggest otherwise.....the Tories and Labour are now on level pegging, with the LibDems, despite their "morale boosting" conference, trailing on 13%.
[url= http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/legal-and-constitutional/poll-labour-draws-level-amidst-unease-over-cuts-$21384137.htm ]Poll: Labour draws level amidst unease over cuts[/url]
Not bad for a party which hasn't even got a leader, eh? ...... in fact, possibly unprecedented.
Anyone who'll renationalise the railways and the utilities, the privatisation of which has been a disaster for the commuter and the less well off. We have a problem with congestion, pollution, safety on roads, renationalise the railways and see the difference it'd make. Labour needs to get much further left IMO. **** the Tories, shareholders and all these other rich ****ers who have no social conscience as long as they're alright.
"There's no point trying to appeal to tradidtional Labour voters because they'll vote Labour anyway."
Err, no. Not always. I come from a background of Labour voters. I am left of centre myself. I never voted for Labour while Blair was leader because I did not trust him and I am unlikely to vote Labour if this set of candidates is the best they can field. To me they all look as shallow and self serving as Blair. No one seems to be seriously taking the line of 'lets move away from Blair type policies as they were immoral'. It just seems more 'follow Tonys example' as despite all, the high ups in the party still seem to revere him and his betrayal of the UK.
I was relieved when they were chucked out despite hating what has replaced them, as I was fed up of feeling ashamed of what the leader and cabinet and indeed, most of the labour MPs had become.
[i]I was relieved when they were chucked out despite hating what has replaced them, as I was fed up of feeling ashamed of what the leader and cabinet and indeed, most of the labour MPs had become. [/i]
Think that sums up my feelings entirely.
Who the hell are we meant to vote for now when all the parties seem to be trying to outdo each other in who is more free market than the other.
Actually, "BigButSlimmerBloke", I could take your spelling of my name "Spongebrain" as a compliment!
A sponge is
- a thing which absorbs stuff but doesn't retain it so it drains away leaving little or no trace
- full of holes
- a thing which spends most of it's life doing nothing of value, only being called in to service to wipe up spills and waste
Complimentary? don't have very high expectations do you?
Nice one BigButDimmerBloke!
Anyhow, what do people think about the result?