And why?
Dianne Abbot
For a laugh
Well, definitely on of the Milibands, but given that their father Ralph was the last of the socialist Milibands, I think i'd have to go for the space cowboy brother, Steve
I think a draw between the Milliband brothers would be good. They would then be forced to do everything in unison forming a hilarious double-act. PMQ's would look like the Ant and Dec show on a Saturday night.
Whats not to like?
How about looney left Andy Burnham? That'd make Labour unelectable - great!
The Milibands are a pair of superior, swotty geeks that the nation at large is never going to warm to.
Man-of-the-People Andy Burnham is Labour's only hope.
Ed Balls, just for the comedy headlines.
How about looney left Andy Burnham? That'd make Labour unelectable - great!
Unelectable oppositions are never a good thing. Look how his Tonyness went off without a decent Tory party...
dianne for me, i just like her
shes not too far left but shes not just another blair/cameron/clegg clone like the milliblands
and balls is a prick
An Ed, preferably Balls, but tother if not.
erm.... isn't the point that they'd ALL make labour unelectable? Labour just is unelectable at the moment. In the same way the Tory's were after being booted out last time. Look where the constant leadership changes got them
Why not work on the same principle and give them all a go at it
Ed Balls or/and Dianne Abbot for comedy double act.
The funny talking Milibands for keeping it in the family i.e. let the younger brother be the leader.
Agree with the comment above about unelectable oppostions, but that aside no longer care (I used to care passionately) as I no longer trust Labour after Iraq, civil liberties etc etc. Am very disillusioned indeed, and I suspect many are, which is when the lunatic fringe parties tend to pick up votes.
Presumably if Ed Miliband gets in his brother will suddenly go off to that job he thought about in Europe a while ago. Certainly couldn't give him the shadow treasurers job otherwise there would be uproar.
Steve Miller Band.
Same as ononeorange. Disillusioned by Tory Bliar. Brown micro-managed too much and made too many mistakes (telling everyone in advance that you want to sell off our gold, great sales tactic). Of the current bunch, well non of them really.
David M = Camerclegg clone
Ed M = unconvinced
Ed B = unconvinced
Andy Burnham = inexperienced lightweight - no chance against Camerclegg
Diane Abbott = stuck to her socialist principles so highly that she sent her son to private school - rank hypocrite
Voted Lib Dem last time. Now feel really let down by Cleggeron.
Makes no difference who gets it, they're all only in it for themselves anyway.
Who cares!
No outstanding candidate. they are all so bland!
I'd love big Di to win (obviously she won't)... never ceases to amaze me how someone so well educated can be so consistently wrong.
I guess she's in good company tho', they'll be unelectable whoever wins (+1 for that not being a good thing)
Dianne Abbot? No way. Hypocrite and racist.
Red Ken cha cha cha!
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PM question time would be a lot more fun with a fire breathing monster on one side of the dispatch box.....
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but mainly anyone that makes labour unelectable - ever
I can't agree with that!No outstanding candidate. they are all so bland!
It's very true, the Milliband's are far too geeky, too middle class. I guess they might appeal to young IT workers.
The Labour party can forget trying to appeal to the middle classes as this group has had a enough of this party over the past 13 years! They overwhelmingly voted with thier feet recently (and quite rightly so).
There's no point trying to appeal to tradidtional Labour voters because they'll vote Labour anyway.
I don't agree that Labour are unelectable however. We face painful times ahead thanks to the last "shower" who were in power, but people have short memories and will blame who ever is in government at the time the axe falls. I certainly wouldn't want to be in Clegg/Cameron's shoes! Their job is almost impossible.
In four years time, the feeling in the country could be quite different to today. [u]IF[/u] Labour got back in and started to run up debt again, I trully believe the UK would be finished and it would end up with around the same economic ranking as some of the countries of the former Soviet Union.
The only one I could see actually making it to PM would be David Milliband.
But in reality I don't care 🙂
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Dig up John Smith, even in his current state he'd do a better job than any of the candidates.
There's no point trying to appeal to tradidtional Labour voters because they'll vote Labour anyway.
I think you'll find that most of them didn't bother last time out
The one I've voted for!
But, just out of interest . . .
Super Scale 20: "Who cares"? Do you not agree with democracy? What system would [b]you[/b] prefer?
Coyote, being an "inexperienced lightweight" didn't hold David Cameron back
There's no point trying to appeal to tradidtional Labour voters because they'll vote Labour anyway.I think you'll find that most of them didn't bother last time out
Cool! 😈
The most competent in the whole land out of all the Labour faithful, Pingu.
Stryker millibrand:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/secret-miliband-brother-blows-contest-wide-open-201009143084/
LMAO!
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Oh Jeez... I grew to detest New Labour over their thirteen years in power to the point where I currently will not consider voting for them again.
Neither Ed Balls nor the Millibands have bothered to acknowledge the reasons why the voting public turned on them, instead they're merely offering meek soundbites about "immigration" or "ID Cards" which have little substance but drop hints to the middle classes about Daily Mail politics.
Yes, ID Cards were a policy I disagreed with strongly, however I also had issue with transportation, war in Iraq, pensions policy, the 10% tax rate, the sidestepped promise of an EU referendum, the disasterous love affair with the media and banking magnates and the worrying obsession with continuing Thatcherism.
I know I'm going to provoke a backlash from the Labourites on here, but frankly thirteen years of New Labour did more to destroy my faith in politicians than the Major Sleaze years ever did. The Labour party must be made to pay dearly for their fast and loose attitude to public opinion before I'd ever give one of their candidates the time of day.
😆 Great link!Stryker millibrand
Major Sleaze years
All these were about was Edwina Currie dropping her knickers so she could write a book about it and make a few quid.
This pales into insignificance compared to the scandal over Dr David Kelly, as one example!
Anyway, who in their right mind would want to do her??? John Major must have got the wrong prescription for his glasses. 😈
Ahhh, sleaze!
Well Pingu makes more sense and his actions are coherent at least.
Actually, aside from the GLOBAL financial crisis, the UK is in fact in better shape now than it was under the Tories. Health and education especially have improved, especially in areas previously neglected by the Tories. Crime is lower. And all sorts of other things.
Don't let facts cloud your bigoted judgement though eh?
But didn't Tony promise us the end of sleaze? (repeatedly)
Well, politics, and the actions of politicians, do seem to be much more transparent these days. Unlike when the Tories had pretty much most of the British Media in their pockets. The Tories were far more corrupt, it's just that they used their media connections to ensure their sordid dealings were covered up more. They'd offer up the odd sacrificial lamb to appease the left-wing press from time to time, but nobody truly corrupt.
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Meanwhile, other Tories were quietly doing arms deals with foreign dictators...
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come off it sponge bob - sleaze was far more than that. remember envelopes full of cash? Remember serving tories going to jail?
If you are going to Tag about me [i]before I even join the thread[/i] at least spell my name right
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If you call him, he will come....
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Interesting also, that the best response to the fact that many things in the UK have improved under Labour, is to wibble on abut 'sleaze'. A tory, talking about sleaze! 😆
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And let's not forget their support of the Khmer Rouge and Suharto
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The thatcher government continued to support the Khmer Rouge after they were thrown out of Cambodia and the extent of their atrocities was realised.
They also supported Suharto and his dictatorship in Indonesia
The STW servers don't have adequate disk capacity for us to list about all the Labour sleaze and the successive mistakes they made!
My point was that Tony Blair banged on about erradicating sleaze. It was a key election manifesto pledge and he and his party spectacularly failed to deliver on this promise!
I did not say the Conservatives were perfect, of course they're not (are any politicians?).
Spongebob, it's the scale!
Thatcher: Pol Pot (not the guy of Britain's got talent), Suharto, Pinochet, Sadaam?
C'mon get some perspective
The STW servers don't have adequate disk capacity for us to list about all the Labour sleaze and the successive mistakes they made!
Google, Yahoo and Facebook's servers don't have the combined capacity to list all the Tory sleaze and corruption....
They all seem as bad as each other - get over it and go and ride your bike while the sun is still shining.
I've never voted Tory and hopefully never will.
Having said that, Tony Blair does have the stain of feeding the public BS to justify partaking in a war which has (according to the UN) so far cost around 100,000 lives...
There is nothing that can possibly redeem the man in my eyes after that.
They'd offer up the odd sacrificial lamb to appease [b]the left-wing press[/b] from time to time
What is this left-wing press of which you speak? Didn't realise the Morning Star had quite so much clout!
My point was that Tony Blair banged on about erradicating sleaze.
Is that from the same hypocrisy bucket as Thatcher talking about "family values?"
Spongebrain - are you so bitter because the education system failed you so badly?
Vote for Labour everytime as I don't want a progressive, intelligent, successful and influential UK in the world.
I want a Maxist state that has an army to rival North Korea and everyone learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
Ingrowing not thinking bigger is the key.
On a brighter note:
Tories **** each other
Labour **** the economy.
learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
surely more of a core subject at the Oxbridge feeder schools rather than the local comprehensive
Spongebob - is your memory that short? Are you old enough to remeber the tory sleaze?
Now Labour have been responsible for some fairly smelly deals but nothing on the scale of the Tories.
Cabinet ministers lying in court and getting jailed? Attempts to bribe witnesses to court cases? Lying under oath in foreign courts and then having to admit it? Envelopes stuffed full of money changing hands? Open bribery? The PMs son taking cash bribes?
There is a difference of scale - both in the seriousness of the cases and in the number of them.
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Vote for Labour everytime as I don't want a progressive, intelligent, successful and influential UK in the world.I want a Maxist state that has an army to rival North Korea and everyone learns about homosexuality at school as a practical subject.
Ingrowing not thinking bigger is the key.
Dear oh dear oh dear.
Have you got an ingrowing brain, Hora?
Binners, don't let him drink any more please. It's not kind.
They all seem as bad as each other - get over it and go and ride your bike while the sun is still shining.
I just did thanks.
Why is it that socialists always revert to personal abuse of the people they don't agree with? I feel honoured to be singled out so often, it's inspirational! 😈
Actually, "BigButSlimmerBloke", I could take your spelling of my name "Spongebrain" as a compliment! Afterall, I do absorb a great deal of what is going on around me, especially here and the misguided repeated diatribes against the Conservative party.
President Robert Mugabe.
He's probably too respectable though.
binners - Membererm.... isn't the point that they'd ALL make labour unelectable? Labour just is unelectable at the moment.
And yet the latest opinion poll would suggest otherwise.....the Tories and Labour are now on level pegging, with the LibDems, despite their "morale boosting" conference, trailing on 13%.
[url= http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/legal-and-constitutional/poll-labour-draws-level-amidst-unease-over-cuts-$21384137.htm ]Poll: Labour draws level amidst unease over cuts[/url]
Not bad for a party which hasn't even got a leader, eh? ...... in fact, possibly unprecedented.
Anyone who'll renationalise the railways and the utilities, the privatisation of which has been a disaster for the commuter and the less well off. We have a problem with congestion, pollution, safety on roads, renationalise the railways and see the difference it'd make. Labour needs to get much further left IMO. **** the Tories, shareholders and all these other rich ****ers who have no social conscience as long as they're alright.
"There's no point trying to appeal to tradidtional Labour voters because they'll vote Labour anyway."
Err, no. Not always. I come from a background of Labour voters. I am left of centre myself. I never voted for Labour while Blair was leader because I did not trust him and I am unlikely to vote Labour if this set of candidates is the best they can field. To me they all look as shallow and self serving as Blair. No one seems to be seriously taking the line of 'lets move away from Blair type policies as they were immoral'. It just seems more 'follow Tonys example' as despite all, the high ups in the party still seem to revere him and his betrayal of the UK.
I was relieved when they were chucked out despite hating what has replaced them, as I was fed up of feeling ashamed of what the leader and cabinet and indeed, most of the labour MPs had become.
[i]I was relieved when they were chucked out despite hating what has replaced them, as I was fed up of feeling ashamed of what the leader and cabinet and indeed, most of the labour MPs had become. [/i]
Think that sums up my feelings entirely.
Who the hell are we meant to vote for now when all the parties seem to be trying to outdo each other in who is more free market than the other.
Actually, "BigButSlimmerBloke", I could take your spelling of my name "Spongebrain" as a compliment!
A sponge is
- a thing which absorbs stuff but doesn't retain it so it drains away leaving little or no trace
- full of holes
- a thing which spends most of it's life doing nothing of value, only being called in to service to wipe up spills and waste
Complimentary? don't have very high expectations do you?
Nice one BigButDimmerBloke!
Anyhow, what do people think about the result?