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Presumably you could reward the dog in another way. Lick of the balls or something.


 
Posted : 28/12/2021 11:45 pm
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How many times a day would you want to lick a dogs balls?


 
Posted : 28/12/2021 11:56 pm
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-more-than-500-children-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-in-england-in-week-to-boxing-day-12505306

That's a worry, don't think anything like that has been reported before during the pandemic?

Presumably it's connected to omicron.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 12:00 am
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Presumably you could reward the dog in another way. Lick of the balls or something.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-who-genitals-ripped-eaten-13520910
Just mind and go easy on the peanut butter


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 12:01 am
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-more-than-500-children-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-in-england-in-week-to-boxing-day-12505306

That’s a worry, don’t think anything like that has been reported before during the pandemic?

From the article:

The definition used to identify a hospital admission with coronavirus is that someone either tested positive for the virus in the 14 days before their admission, or during their stay in hospital. It could mean someone goes into hospital for a non-COVID reason and later tests positive.

I only half caught it, but someone from one of the NHS trusts was on the radio this morning, I think stated this was quite a large factor at present in some of the stats (COVID as an incidental finding on admission).


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:04 am
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could mean someone goes into hospital for a non-COVID reason and later tests positive.

Yeah I get that but has anything like that happened before? We are two years into this pandemic and over 500 children in hospital with Covid in one week sounds both shocking and unprecedented.

The only thing that has changed significantly recently is the tsunami of omicron cases. Perhaps children are more susceptible to omicron?

Edit : If it just reflects general covid numbers then why aren't we also seeing unprecedented case numbers among adult hospital patients?

Edit2: Is it perhaps because the now high level of vaccinations among adults?


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:12 am
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Aphex… that poor little virus doesnt stand a chance against the heatwave you guys have over Xmas! The missus is unexpectedly back in Perth (after 2 weeks quarantine in NT) and is struggling!

Not even funny. +30 even at night. Aircon just means you don't feel like leaving the house. Car was 46c even driving for an hour on the freeway on boxing day. It is BRUTAL. Masks not helping either!!!

Relatively cool 35c here today and it feels fresh. I know, right! Was the missus in one of the covid concentration camps? That would have been fun up in the top end?!

We have had spikes but nothing like the rest of the country still. We're up at something like 24 cases right now and it doesn't appear we have omicron here. It's going to be odd facing up to this as we really have had no delta here so it will be good to see just how effective this vaccine is, considering no-one has any delta antibodies/exposure.


 
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It's a very pleasant 22 here in Sydney - dunno what the **** ing weather is doing at the moment - it's all over the place.

Sydney has turned into a bit of a shit-show re: covid at the moment courtesy of our new Premier. He basically rolled-back all restrictions just as Omicron was taking off, then re-introduced "checking-in" just as the case numbers started to get really big (for us) causing a huge "pingdemic" which has overwhelmed our testing capacity - which is reduced anyway because (inexplicably) lots of the testing sites have closed over Christmas.

Our new premier just appears to be Boris with a better haircut.

We've had 11,201 positive cases in the last 24 hours (a new record every day - yaaaaay!), 625 hospitalizations, and 61 people are in intensive care.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 3:46 am
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Our new premier just appears to be Boris with a better haircut.

That explains why it seemed to suddenly turned so bad for you!

BBC reported a test centre gave out a load of incorrect negative results, so several hundred people didn't know they had it and should isolate. Not what you needed.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 9:55 am
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Edit : If it just reflects general covid numbers then why aren’t we also seeing unprecedented case numbers among adult hospital patients?

Ernie… “adults” is such a broad term. We need to see the age profile of positive cases and compare with the age profile of hospitalisations to determine anything.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:03 am
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It doesn’t scale up well. How many dogs would need training up? It is amazing what dogs can do with training though (even when the trainers don’t understand how the dogs achieve the detection of what they are trained to detect).

And how would you fit the dog in a postbox when you had to send it back?


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:04 am
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I’ve been considering this (although now not really up to date):

https://twitter.com/saadomer3/status/1475849088969150469?s=21

Should we have different isolation rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? Would that even be practical? Does reducing isolation times for all based on unreliable LFTs make sense?


 
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That explains why it seemed to suddenly turned so bad for you!

BBC reported a test centre gave out a load of incorrect negative results, so several hundred people didn’t know they had it and should isolate. Not what you needed.

yes - I mean, it’s not nothing, but it’s more of an issue of public confidence than anything else.

Our new premier was obviously going to be shit from day 1 - I don’t think anyone was in any doubt. We are pretty-much getting pinged by the app any time we go anywhere at the moment, but you can’t get a test for love nor money (rapid antigen tests are as rare as hens teeth, and the testing sites have queues so large that people are getting there before they open, but then getting turned away).

I’m seriously considering picking a good time work-wise to catch it, then going to hammerbarn (bunnings) and licking all the doorknobs I can find.

Things are significantly complicated by the fact my nephew is having chemo at the moment, and is hugely immunocomprimised. My mum is here from the uk to help care for him, and it’s looking like she’s going to have to stay away from me/the kids, in order to protect him. Sucks for my kids who want to see their grandma for the first time in 2 years, but he obviously needs to be the priority.

So yeah…. Shit’s **** ed, as we say over here


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:56 am
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Here in the UK, I don’t see the “two LFT to leave isolation early” policy lasting much into the new year. Availability is already, well, there isn’t any, is there. And in a week’s time… how many will we need for the millions starting isolating now? At least we have PCRs…

https://twitter.com/kateemccann/status/1476143409857445891?s=21


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 11:51 am
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It doesn’t scale up well. How many dogs would need training up? It is amazing what dogs can do with training though (even when the trainers don’t understand how the dogs achieve the detection of what they are trained to detect).

I suppose it all hinges on how it works in the field, if the dog can just pick you out like a drug sniffer whilst walking thru customs wouldn’t be a bad thing to have in the post covid future.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 12:08 pm
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We’re both still testing positive via LFTs on day 9 of self isolation, so it’ll be the full 10 days for us.

Same for me. My day zero (first day of symptoms) was 4 days before I tested positive though, so although today’s my last official day of isolation, I’ll be giving it a few more days to be on the safe side. The rest of my family have until the 31st / 1st anyway, so it’s not like I could do much anyway…

I still had a faint line on day 11, so I'm not convinced that all of this quibbling over 7 days versus 5 days is really going to make much difference if they stick to the requirement for two negative tests. Of course there will be some who get a milder infection and quicker clearance, but I barely had cold symptoms. n=1 and all that I guess...


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 12:15 pm
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And how would you fit the dog in a postbox when you had to send it back?

An obvious concern given the username


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 12:32 pm
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An obvious concern given the username

I'm guessing the dogs would have to be very, very small. Maybe even specially bred in some sort of flattened, rectangular shape with incredibly short legs. It does worry me that it could be construed as cruel though.

It would be just like this government to construct a testing strategy based around mail-out dogs without considering the logistics though, wouldn't it. We'd end up with a national initiative to install larger post-boxes as a result, Boris Boxes.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 1:19 pm
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Gov website showing home and drive through PCR's available in all areas


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 1:51 pm
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We were booked into our local Walk In yesterday. Internet suggested that there was no availablity but walk ins were still allowed. They went along queue asking people to speed things up by going online and getting a QR code. Not sure how easy that was with no online availability showing.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:26 pm
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Workmate and his partner positive, she’s a triple jabbed ITU nurse, both also had it about this time last year. She’s apparently quite poorly.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:34 pm
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Gov website showing home and drive through PCR’s available in all areas

Well, I was nosey, so also looked… no LFT or PCR available at all here. Including for essential workers.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:55 pm
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No PCR booking available for any of the English regions. Just as reported earlier across the news networks.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 2:57 pm
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And no LFTs available. My daughter has just tested +ve on a LFT too.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 3:13 pm
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Good news - my daughters (13 and 15) and one of their friends are at Stoke Mandeville Stadium getting their second shots.

Bad news - just got a call from my mum's care home. They're back in lockdown due to an outbreak in the home. Bang goes Saturday's visit.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 4:36 pm
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It feels like it is everywhere at the moment. Do Nothing seems to be the policy at the moment..


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 4:58 pm
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Tested + again today & still feeling like death warmed up. If I don’t test - tomorrow & the day after then it looks like I’ve the full festive Billy No Mates award this Xmas & spent the whole fing thing alone!

Still, worse things happen at sea or so I’m told! 🤣


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 5:26 pm
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No LFT's anywhere in my area. Lots of friends have spent the day searching in vain.

Our friends are dropping like flies but not one of them of any age is actually ill. All symptons very mild.


 
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I literally just ordered some off the .gov website. Last couple of times I have got them off the site its been really slow to send out emails I think the system is just really overloaded.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 5:58 pm
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Just ordered a pack of LFTs online for delivery, our stock is going to be demolished in the coming days testing to see if SIL passed it on to us, or whether I've brought it home from work today (where I discovered there's been an outbreak in the past week).


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 6:04 pm
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We've been in the UK since Monday evening and we're still waiting for our "Day 2" Test Kits to arrive.....

We've did home tests this morning and we're both negative.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 6:52 pm
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I have just looked at Travelling Tabby. Scotland's test positivity rate was 32.5% on Monday, 28.9% today. I can't find the UK figures.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 7:32 pm
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I can’t find the UK figures.

The UK has reported a record 183,037 new COVID cases in the latest daily figures.

The number includes five days of infection data from Northern Ireland - 22,972 cases - due to a lag in reporting over Christmas.

Of the 183,037 total figure, 138,287 cases were in England (yesterday it was 117,093), 15,849 were in Scotland (yesterday it was 9,360), and 5,929 were in Wales (yesterday it was 12,378).


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 7:39 pm
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I can’t find the UK figures

I was referring to the test positivity rates.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 7:53 pm
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@troutwrestler the rates are HERE , you need to click on the 'data' link in there.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 8:05 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/french-daily-covid-cases-above-200000-as-italy-considers-stricter-green-pass

Wtf..... staggering :

“This means that 24 hours a day, day and night, every second in our country, two French people are diagnosed positive for the coronavirus,” said the health minister, Olivier Véran. “We have never experienced such a situation,” he said, calling the increase “dizzying”.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 9:23 pm
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If everyone over here could actually get LFT's and PCR's easily we would smash that...


 
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If everyone over here could actually get LFT’s and PCR’s easily we would smash that…

Regrettably I would think that's true.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 9:55 pm
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Guy having a strop out at the pharmacy in asda today as he was unable to get lft tests anywhere & the chemist had no idea when theyd get some

Johnsons 'let it rip' plan has obviously overwhelmed the testing centres, we are running at well in excess of testing capacity, the true case number is surely well over 200 k a day (bearing in mind lighthouse labs are desperate for staff)

At some point that's going Peter out, there's a limit of people in the country!

Even with reduced severity of omicron I can't see how the NHS isn't going to get overwhelmed soon too

By the time Johnson calls any further restrictions it'll be too late


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:06 pm
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Obviously test shortages are likely to affect the total but hasn't the UK already peaked? I thought it had.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:07 pm
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How has it peaked?


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:10 pm
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Johnsons ‘let it rip’ plan has obviously overwhelmed the testing centres,

Still, at least he's giving us regular updates on how it's going.

Oh...

By the time Johnson calls any further restrictions it’ll be too late

Yeah, waiting till the data is in was always a bloody huge gamble and goes against all we have learnt in the pandemic. He's a cowardly little shit though, so here we are.


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:11 pm
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The peak is predicted from a few places in another couple of weeks.

Scottish and Welsh first ministers have been openly saying that second week of January is the peak.

It's going to get rather desperate I think - back to some disruption of healthcare, food supplies, transport etc by New Year?


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:14 pm
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Scottish and Welsh first ministers have been openly saying that second week of January is the peak.

Genuine question, peak of infections or hospitalisations?


 
Posted : 29/12/2021 10:16 pm
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Good question, I'm not sure...


 
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