60000 people gathering around Wembley, a lot of people on the beer.
Great.
For ticket holders based in England:
Proof of a negative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS app, or a text message or email from NHS Test and Trace. This can be on your device (including a screenshot) or a printout. The test needs to be taken within 48 hours of the time stadium gates open (meaning three hours before match kick-off).
Or proof of full vaccination - both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match. It must be demonstrated either via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App or the English vaccination letter. ❗ Your vaccination card will not be accepted.
Or proof of natural immunity, demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App.
Yeah I booked my second jab at 12 weeks as it was known it gave a bit more protection, but with Delta variant surging in London I brought it forward 2 weeks. A week on I feel quite glad.
We have finally had a work client ask for proof of negative test, so I will see how useful or otherwise the system is in the next couple of days.
Downloading and logging in to the App was a chore in itself, scanning your driving liscence etc.
Possibly related, had 3 scam phonecall attempts today having not had any for months (from a mobile number, call terminated when I remained silent for 2 seconds).
Downloading and logging in to the App was a chore in itself, scanning your driving liscence etc.
What app was this?
I didn't have to provide photo ID for the NHS app, though I think I managed to dig out my NHS number
If you don't have your NHS number their is a free text service to obtain it, I can't think why anyone would need to upload any ID for it. I only needed my name, date of birth and postcode.
Local cafe having to close because of staff shortage due to self isolating
Local cafe having to close because of staff shortage due to self isolating
Pretty common round here - no reports from daughters 600 strong secondary school, surprisingly
What app was this?
NHS app (not NHS covid19)
Needed to verify my identity to link to my doctors.
Can see my (fairly benign) english medical history, which as far as I can work out is correct, so I don't think I've been scammed. Needed an email code and a text code to set up, hopfully now will just go by my fingerprint, becase I've already forgotten the random password.
https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2021/06/29/covid-19-wave3/
Today (29th June) my spreadsheet tells me that the weekly averaged figure for new cases is 17,877 rather than 10,000 (est from start of month). And it looks like at the end of the school term (~20th July) the figure could approach 100,000 positive cases per day rather than 40,000. Currently cases are rising as rapidly as they did last summer which indicates that the virus is spreading easily in the non-vaccinated population.
The data on hospital admissions do not yet show a strong rise. But if we reach 100,000 positive cases per day it seems inconceivable that there will not be a significant extra burden on the health service.
@theotherjonv - might be of value to your modelling...
Ms Sturgeon highlighted the impact of vaccination on hospitalisations, saying that back in January, almost 13% of people testing positive were being admitted into hospital within 14 days. By June that had fallen to 3%.
it's not my modelling, but if that number's right 100K cases would be 3000 admissions per day.
Personally - I can't see the case increase rate continuing at that rate, we didn't get there in W2 and almost feels like there can't be that many people left to infect (although reinfections and potential for vaxxed people to be infected even if outcome is not as serious means there probably are......)
Although also the reason we didn't get that high in W2 was because we put brakes on, not took them off
If cases get that high it will make the decisions in holidays easy. No other country in the world will let us in.
Then Boris can stand there and say it wasn't my decision to not let you go
I might be getting this wrong but isn't the height of summer a good time to be getting any inevitable hospitalisations as the NHS is at a naturally lower level of bed occupancy, rather than waiting to overwhelm it again in the winter?
After all, it is almost certain everyone will eventually catch the virus so timing of any hospitalisations is the important part.
The more we get infected through this period the less will be infected through the winter as they'll have already had it and built a stronger immunity to it.
so timing of any hospitalisations is the important part. The more we get infected through this period the less will be infected through the winter as they’ll have already had it and built a stronger immunity to it.
Partly - you are right that hospitalizations are higher in winter and so the NHS can potentially carry a higher load due to other reasons in the summer.
But i don't think it can take 3000 hospitalizations per day, that's 17.5% of the total capacity per week and although there will be discharges too, that is not absorbable for long in winter or summer. That's total; normal occupancy level is around 85% so that could swamp the spare capacity in a week. Although when covid hit last year and non-emergency / elective work was cancelled the freed up beds went to 35% so 2 weeks of 3000/d hospitalization.
Before considering that the workforce also needs to avoid another crisis. And before considering that we really don't want to get into more cancellation of work that needs doing.
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/hospital-bed-occupancy#background
Had to provide a negative lateral flow test for an event last week with exceptional security. That despite meeting someone who’s already had it. I imagine the 600k missing lateral flow tests is the difference between ordered and registered used (at some known run rate).
I cannot imagine for a moment that the date will come forward. Get it wrong and Jarvid is labelled immediately with his first decision. Don’t change it and nothing happens.
There are no crowds outside my house. Poor Chris. Just appalling behaviour. On the positive side, someone approached me last week and put their hand on my shoulder at lunch after above event and just said thank you. I was humbled.
Yeh, yeh. I still haven't forgiven you for taking a day off 😉
Yeh, yeh. I still haven’t forgiven you for taking a day off 😉
Stand outside his house shouting "shame on you"?
Exactly 12 weeks since my first AZ jag, but nothing from Grampian Heath for either myself or Mrs DB. Just moved to Tobermory, rang the doctor’s surgery today and got appointments for Thursday. Bit freaked out by the complete lack of social distancing at times.
I imagine the 600k missing lateral flow tests is the difference between ordered and registered used
I get through a fair number. I only register the ones that I'm legally required to take. I suspect many other people do the same.
Once you've done one the leaflet goes in the bin and there's nothing to remind you to report the result.
Yeh, yeh. I still haven’t forgiven you for taking a day off 😉
Well aside from the day job and some covid sums, I’ve be also been freelancing on the side. These were both mine too:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/57574896
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/57568947
Had my Third jab today as part of the Cov-Boost trial. Well probably anyway, as I’ve a 25% chance of placebo.
The sneaky nurse knew I was a vaccinator, and would be able to recognise the syringes/vaccine colours so blindfolded me!! Does that make it a triple blind trial??
Nice 🙂
I'm not understanding the missing tests "scandal"?
We've issued millions of them. Not all of them have been used yet. We have 3 packs in the house for the kids.
Worrying figures for Manchester reported on the BBC. Be interesting what impact long covid has on life expectancy in the years ahead too.
BBC News - Covid death rate 25% higher in Greater Manchester - report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57658479
That despite meeting someone who’s already had it. I imagine the 600k missing lateral flow tests is the difference between ordered and registered used.
I for one have forgotten to register a few of mine, and I know the family have too.
I also know we've a small pile of boxes in the cupboard - we had mini_oab at school, middle_oab at college, mrs_oab at nurseries and I meet my staff who are all in school. We do 2x tests a week each, and so when we get tests we get more than a few.
I also know my father got a box, but only took one test in advance of meeting the family a few weeks back. I assume the rest in the box will be unused.
Does that make it a triple blind trial??
Nice.
I have family working in the NHS who are also part of the trial. They just kept their eyes closed. You can’t trust everyone though, can you…
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1409808926552596481
Reading the room again.
Translation: Our donors have been whining about having to quarantine after going on 'business' trips to coincidentally sunny places.
Latest from the red tops (apologies if I've missed it earlier) - from freedom day, close contacts of cases won't have to isolate if they have been double jabbed.
Does that make it a triple blind trial??
Blinded means patient doesn’t know
Single blind means patient and investigators don’t know
Double blind means patient, investigators and sponsor doesn’t know.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_experiment
There are a lot of SOPs on blinding trials for pivotal work. Academic and real world evidence trials may be less rigorous. A matched placebo would normally be supplied, and often an on site pharmacist will be unblinded to make up the treatments. but in this case I imagine it is just a saline injection in a standard syringe.
Based on natural infection boosts to antibodies, I think we probably know what we will see.
Sorry - it was my attempt at humour rather than a real question!! The placebo was a meningitis vaccine.
At my trial location the options were Moderna, Curevac or a 1/2 shot of Pfizer (they want to know if vaccine supply can be stretched.)
Whooosh --- the sound of a joke going over TiRed's head.
From one of my relatives (so not all so trustworthy after all):
Just received either a Covid booster vaccine or placebo as part of a trial. Tried to peek and see which but blinding was too effective.
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I get through a fair number. I only register the ones that I’m legally required to take. I suspect many other people do the same.
Basically this. I tried to log one on the nhs app it didnt work so now I just do the test if it was positive I would feel more urgency. But its always negative so why i can't be bothered. I guess the issue is those who are positive can they bet bothered either.
Recording it is a pain in the arse. My youngest moans every time he has to do it. Needs streamlining.
Its much easier for yourself once you've set up an account.
I do my kids twice weekly - it takes 10 minutes for both and registering with the schools via a google form.
I reckon all the under 50s have been given a placebo - save money and let it rip!
(This is not my honest opinion)
I also know we’ve a small pile of boxes in the cupboard – we had mini_oab at school, middle_oab at college, mrs_oab at nurseries and I meet my staff who are all in school. We do 2x tests a week each, and so when we get tests we get more than a few.
I have a mate with a surplus of test kits, simmilar to you, so he's given me quite a few over the months, I just tested myself out of curiosity mainly... they've come up negative so I've just binned them. Might be a bit naughty, but thats accounted for probaly a good four or five of the 'missing' 600k tests.
I imagine white a lot of people who have a load of tests in the cupboard have given some away to friends/family?
I do wonder if some of the school/u18 policy is in the "let it rip" camp.
I suspect there is an element of that with the schools.
I'm not sure that the risk profile is there to justify vaccination for all under 18's. (My personal opinion)
I do wonder if…
Since the government signalled that mask wearing in secondary schools is not longer required, I’ve done more than wonder… I’ve assumed that it a deliberate policy to spread infections through school age teens before the summer break. Not sure there’s really any other reading of it.
vaccination for all under 18’s
Who said all? Offer it to all and leave it up to the teens and their families. The uptake would probably be pretty strong, especially for 16/17 yr olds. Preferably do so before abandoning track/trace/isolate, mask wearing etc in learning environments.
Well, despite being double jabbed, being extremely cautious (bed-wettingly so), choosing my shopping times carefully and wearing a FFP2 mask when doing so, I’ve just tested positive. No symptoms at all so far. The only potential contact is my sister-in-laws partner who tested + last week, but the only link is via my wife who met her sister for 2 minutes outside before that test was confirmed. Both wife & SIL are negative, so I have to say I’m really perplexed. No other contacts at all in the last week or so. Were it not for it being unlikely I’d be bleating about a false positive, but there you go.
close contacts of cases won’t have to isolate if they have been double jabbed.
And yet folk are still going on about young folk not giving a ****, no wonder, they must feel like they've been roundly shat on.
Keep working while the oldies shelter
Keep going to uni, even though you're nowhere near uni
Keep yer shoulder to the wheel, while the oldies **** off on holiday
Ibiza? haha, get back to work ya young scallywag!
Oh, and you young uns be paying for this shitshow til ye drop.
Mates dad tested positive a few months back after an office outbreak.. No symptoms at all apparently and that was a test carried out by a medical person of some sort so will have been done properly.
That's maybe the most difficult thing with covid.. So easy to spread if your symptomless and unaware but for the seemingly random unlucky few it can mean ICU and potentially death.
That's what annoys me most about some people's attitudes towards covid, 'I'm OK so I can do what I want'.. Whilst potentially handing someone a death sentence. Weapons grade wallopers. Litteraly.
Re the LF tests, me and the wife have been doing them when going out for work, her more than me but neither of us had any idea your supposed to log them.
1,294 cases amongst tartan army fans returning from London, including 397 who were at the match - not a good look!
