Bolton cases, hospital admissions and deaths plotted with latest data. (7 day moving average)
Admissions look to be dropping lately, which is promising.
So far deaths not rising, which is promising.
Just read the new Wales review rules on BBC...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57346925
I'm tired, but that sounds like my postponed trip to stay with family in Wales for several days last month needs to be postponed again from the revised mid June plan.
We are effectively part of a three household family "bubble" in Southampton with my partner's mum and sister, who both live alone locally, albeit it's the just the odd car share we get involved in (plus we had an outdoor buffet on Easter Sunday).
If I'm right in thinking I shouldn't go in ~2 weeks time, with Indian Delta variant concerns just along the north coast around Llandudno, I'm not entirely convinced Wales will relax rules in time for my mid July annual leave either.
I’ve been taking part in the COVIDENCE study & have been offered a post immunisation blood test. When I get the results I’ll post them up here for some expert analysis.
Staff in our local hospital are still getting (Delta variant). Friend says 4 of her team are off with it (all young). So once again the nhs are struggling with staffing levels.
Bunnyhop - have they been vaccinated?
Just had my 2nd (AZ) jag. Hoping no side effects as I've a big ride planned for Sunday.
2nd az jab tomorrow, fingers crossed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57355599
Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove has been alerted by NHS Test and Trace to say he had come into contact with someone with coronavirus.
The senior Conservative had recently returned from Portugal after supporting Chelsea in the Champions League final.
Instead of self isolating for 10 days, Mr Gove will take daily Covid tests as part of a pilot scheme designed to measure testing effectiveness.
Why on earth doesn't he self isolate and take the daily tests?
Why on earth doesn’t he self isolate and take the daily tests?
Conservative party mandate no.101b: "Do as I say not as i do"
Conservative party mandate no.101b: “Do as I say not as i do”
Or take part in a trial of a new alternative system, according to that BBC article.
Or take part in a trial of a new alternative system, according to that BBC article.
Yep... will that be offered to the other people recalled from their holidays 🙂
Or is that a Gove specific alternative system.
I too had my second vaccination today. Brought forward 2 weeks .
Had very mild after effects after the first so hopefully will be ok this time .
There can’t be many over 50s left still to have their second now...?
Or is that a Gove specific alternative system.
sounds a lot like it was invented several hours ago...
I'm just watching BBC news and I'm not sure what I think about those holidaying in the Algarve that are now scrabbling to change flights and book tests to come home before Tuesday.
Of course sympathetic for the situation but also somewhat surprised by the naivety that the situation can change quickly, and/or that the Gov can react to that change. It's 'only' self isolation on return, I wonder how many will bother with it.
As to the continued increases in case numbers and also that the rate is unsurprisingly getting driven substantially by school age children and increasingly into the parent age group. I said a few days ago we were at an inflexion point and while deaths have not yet followed the case increase, I have changed my mind and I am increasingly of the opinion that time out will need to be called on the 21st.
I desperately don't want that to be the case, but can't help thinking we're going to **** it up again, aren't we?
Just got a note from my daughter's school saying that they've had cases of the Delta variant. Interestingly, it also mentioned the pilot of daily tests rather than self isolation so perhaps Gove is playing by the rules after all.
I think that pilot is for school kids not Govt ministers. Do as I say, not as I do. They never learn..,
I’m just watching BBC news and I’m not sure what I think about those holidaying in the Algarve that are now scrabbling to change flights and book tests to come home before Tuesday.
From within the trade I am sympathetic but planning for the worst should be no.1 if you really must go abroad. Their travel provider should have pointed out the pit-falls before they booked. Strangely all the people who have enquired here haven't bothered once I point out that a late change could cost them money when the foreign hotel insists on being paid because they are open and can't get a new booking for the reserved room.
I don't think many people who have been told Portugal was on the green list and are now being told they need to isolate when they get home will bother, I wouldn't. But then I wouldn't have booked a holiday abroad this year...
The most annoying thing about the pandemic is every government mistake has to be directly fixed by members of the public not by the government.
Looks like Gove is in the clear - study
Anyone who is identified as a contact by NHS Test and Trace as a contact will be offered to take part in the study. This won’t include people identified as a contact through the NHS COVID-19 app or through an informal channel. A person will be eligible to take part if they:
do not have COVID-19 symptoms
live in England
are not in full-time education
are aged 18 and over
are not under the quarantine rules for arriving in England
Bunnyhop – have they been vaccinated?
Dan - Friend just got to me. Yes her staff members have had BOTH vaccinations.
That's great news, secondary school pupils are the biggest group of new cases at the moment so this could break the chain of transmission
Also good for the children, it's a pain being sent home for 10 days because someone got ill in your class
I posted about this on one of the other threads.
Just over three weeks ago there was a group of cases at the primary school my wife woks at, two teachers, a TA, and 4 pupils. A teacher and TA in one class were both vaccinated and both tested positive. The second teacher, mid 20s and in my wife’s class then tested positive a week later.
My wife went in to 10 days isolation on 12th May. No symptoms, felt like a cold starting on 18th, flow tests reading negative. Then a positive flow test on the 20th followed by a positive PCR test the same day. She’s had one dose of vaccine, was due to have her second whilst she was isolating.
I tested negative on a flow test the 20th, but then a positive PCR test on the 22nd. No symptoms. Still testing negative on a flow test when I had symptoms on 25th. I’ve also had one dose of vaccine, was due my second on the 20th May.
Don’t know which variant we’ve had, the PCR test don’t give that info.
So far the vaccine hasn’t stopped us catching Covid, maybe the symptoms are less than they otherwise would have been.
That’s great news, secondary school pupils are the biggest group of new cases at the moment so this could break the chain of transmission
Mask use would help with that for this term (crazy that it has been dropped in so many areas). Vaccinations for next term. Uptake will be lower than for adults, but hopefully enough to make a difference (and hopefully priority will be given to kids with medical conditions before they go back in September).
That’s great news, secondary school pupils are the biggest group of new cases at the moment so this could break the chain of transmission
I can't see any way this will happen in the short term to break this current chain, and there's only 6 weeks till end of term and summer holidays.
So far the vaccine hasn’t stopped us catching Covid, maybe the symptoms are less than they otherwise would have been.
if it is the latter that's still a good reason to be vaccinated (not saying that's what your post is saying but there are some who would pick up on your post and possibly use it to say 'got vaccinated, still got infected = what's the point in being vaccinated then?')
Also good for the children, it’s a pain being sent home for 10 days because someone got ill in your class
Yup, daughter on day 8 of isolating, and despite a negative PCR, she's still to stay home.
6000 new cases today. Theres no way we are "opening up" on the 21st. We should probably be reverting to the last stage to protect ourselves.
6000 new cases today. Theres no way we are “opening up” on the 21st. We should probably be reverting to the last stage to protect ourselves.
Depends how effective the vaccination program is, cases were always going to increase once restrictions were lifted. Need to see if hospitalisation and deaths stay in the tolerable range - whatever that is.
Or we could learn from the Autumn, and not bread a new variant to share with our neighbours. Keep cases down, finish the vaccination programme.
What has happened to case rates in Israel? Data not dates my a&&e!!
Israel does not have the rise in cases we have, yet has a only a marginal percentage of the population vaccinated.
So something is different.
Israel didn’t have rabid tossers on the back benches howling about sensible restrictions on the unvaccinated. They really did follow the science.
Sure, and:
The first group of factors consists of long-standing characteristics of Israel which are extrinsic to health care. They include: Israel’s small size (in terms of both area and population), a relatively young population, relatively warm weather in December 2020, a centralized national system of government, and well-developed infrastructure for implementing prompt responses to large-scale national emergencies.
The second group of factors are also long-standing, but they are health-system specific. They include: the organizational, IT and logistical capacities of Israel’s community-based health care providers, the availability of a cadre of well-trained, salaried, community-based nurses who are directly employed by those providers, a tradition of effective cooperation between government, health plans, hospitals, and emergency care providers – particularly during national emergencies; and support tools and decisionmaking frameworks to support vaccination campaigns.
The third group consists of factors that are more recent and are specific to the COVID-19 vaccination effort. They include: the mobilization of special government funding for vaccine purchase and distribution, timely contracting for a large amount of vaccines relative to Israel’s population, the use of simple, clear and easily implementable criteria for determining who had priority for receiving vaccines in the early phases of the distribution process, a creative technical response that addressed the demanding cold storage requirements of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, and well-tailored outreach efforts to encourage Israelis to sign up for vaccinations and then show up to get vaccinated.
While many of these facilitating factors are not unique to Israel, part of what made the Israeli rollout successful was its combination of facilitating factors (as opposed to each factor being unique separately) and the synergies it created among them. Moreover, some high-income countries (including the US, the UK, and Canada) are lacking several of these facilitating factors, apparently contributing to the slower pace of the rollout in those countries.
You can't just say "hey look we're as vaccinated as Israel so we'll be fine!"
So far the vaccine hasn’t stopped us catching Covid, maybe the symptoms are less than they otherwise would have been.
Which was the message about vaccines all along and should not surprise anyone.
There can’t be many over 50s left still to have their second now…?
I'm 56 and in Scotland - it's going to be at least a couple of weeks until I and Mrs DB get our 2nd injections and therefore another 5-6 weeks before approaching full-immunity. Reducing restrictions until all JCVI Groups 1-9 have been fully inoculated and immune is bonkers when they only have 33% immunity.
before approaching full-immunity. could be as low as 60% with AZ vs Delta. 58 here and 10 days until my second AZ jab.
There can’t be many over 50s left still to have their second now…?
I'm due to have my second jab a week today. My wife will be another month or so.
That’s great news, secondary school pupils are the biggest group of new cases at the moment so this could break the chain of transmission
I can’t see any way this will happen in the short term to break this current chain, and there’s only 6 weeks till end of term and summer holidays.
MRHA have authorised based on safety and effectiveness. That isn't the same as JCVI adding the group to the vaccine rollout - could be a while depending on supplies and their inclination.
Israel didn’t have rabid tossers on the back benches howling about sensible restrictions on the unvaccinated
Plenty of ultra orthodox have pretty much ignored most of the restrictions so I think this is unlikely. They also did have a rise in cases among the young but they eased restrictions on the downslope when cases were far higher than we did.
They eased some restrictions. Had others (in place 'till this week) that we didn't even consider.
Look at the rate of increase in Scotland vs vaccination. Can’t see vaccination outrunning the increase. Maybe school terms ending will help. Firebreak lockdowns by August? Hope not but at least I can say I predicted it
Bolton updated to include Ventilators.
Giro one week, Covid the next
BBC News - Egan Bernal: Giro d'Italia winner tests positive for Covid-19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/57364184
