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Thank you binners! I’ll set them up, you knock them down.
(I probably used the wrong wall fittings)
God, can I put in a request for COVID to come and kill me now?
Last day of school for my two. Decision just made, after one of the schools pulled the plug.
You love it really 😀
Last day of school for my two. Decision just made, after one of the schools pulled the plug.
Looks like my two could well be off school from tomorrow. Apparently they've so many teachers self-isolating, they've no choice but to shut up shop. I expect plenty more schools are in the same boat.
Looks like Boris is leading from the rear once again. More General Melchet than Winston Churchill.
It was in the independent yesterday
Just back from work - driving for ASDA.
Stores reducing stock by 33% and 24 hour stores closing from midnight until 6am.
Unfortunately for this to work I think we’re going to have to pass laws, rather than ‘advise’.
If you're over 70 or in a vulnerable group isn't it pretty much your own fault if you go out and get infected?
Post Office and supermarket heaving with oldies today, none of whom were keeping any distance apart.
Was the same in Morrison's, oldies all hugging each other and ignoring the signs at the tills that said to leave a 1m gap between you and the person in front in the queue.
If you’re over 70 or in a vulnerable group isn’t it pretty much your own fault if you go out and get infected?
As long as they sign a waiver saying they fully acknowledge that their actions mean that if they become infected they are last in line for a hospital bed ... not just behind fit healthy folks under 70, also behind all the old folks who through no fault of their own will still get it, those requiring carers visiting, those in old folks homes etc etc.
That's the thing with selfish folks, they don't ever consider their actions have a knock on consequence for others.
Post Office and supermarket heaving with oldies today, none of whom were keeping any distance apart.
Collecting pension then shopping are still essential plus over 70s aren’t yet in isolation.
Stores reducing stock by 33% and 24 hour stores closing from midnight until 6am.
@cyclelife does that mean more stock for deliveries?
Asda is our local - I'd like to know what their plan is. We have a delivery due on Friday I think.
Stores reducing stock by 33% and 24 hour stores closing from midnight until 6am.
Reducing stock when you’re reducing opening hours makes sense.
We were told that "your deliveries will be a lot smaller than at present " so sounds like they will limit your purchases. My van when full usually held 20 deliveries now when full it's 8 - 10. Must say, I did a shop as I left today and got everything I needed for a week's shop.
If you’re over 70 or in a vulnerable group isn’t it pretty much your own fault if you go out and get infected?
David Blunkett (aged 72) was on the radio before whining that it was just, like SOOOOOO unfair that the over 70's had to self-isolate and blah, blah, blah. What it basically amounted to was 'because I don't want too'
I'm sure he'll be expecting to be at the front of the queue for priority medical treatment when he gets infected.
It is the elderly that don't appear to be phased by this. Our elderly neighbours just shrugged it off when we asked if they needed us to get anything for them. They then walked into town for their daily cafe visit. Tesco's was heaving at lunchtime with big queues of retirees at the cafe. Maybe there getting one last day out before the lockdown?
Reducing fresh goods “on shelves” when people are about to be staying away, makes perfect sense.
looks like next doors kids are off school, no coughing just sitting on the trampoline in what looks like fluffy pyjamas
Tramampolines will be a godsend for parents with small kids over the next few months.
..and cellars with locks on the outside
Question about online orders at asda. I placed an order at weekend for delivery on Friday. I wanted to amend the order to get a few more items and it's says that about 15 items I ordered are no longer available. Does this mean no longer available to buy above what is already ordered, or not availableat all and what I seem to already have paid for won't be delivered. Not exactly clear!
(moved to the other thread)
Tramampolines will be a godsend for parents with small kids over the next few months.
...as will bikes, kayaks and sailing boats. 🙂
Tramampolines will be a godsend for parents with small kids over the next few months.
...and a pain in the arse for orthopeadic surgeons who should be treating coronavirus patients instead at this difficult time.
The last orthopeadic surgeon I spoke to (just before he rebuilt my sons elbow joint with screws) reckoned he'd be unemployed if it wasn't for trampolines and motorbikes.
tpbiker - same @ Tesco online. Guess I'll find out next week.
Looks like my school will be asking year 7&8 to stay at home, about 25% of kids isolating and a load of teachers/support staff too.
I shall be back in the virus factory tomorrow, just need to steer clear of any pubs on the way home.
My daughter's school - Belper - messaged earlier to say they are closing at the end of this week until at least the end of the Easter break.
They are offering childcare to children of NHS staff and first responders...
In these unprecedented times the NHS and other first responder public services have a vital role to play in managing this crisis. With this in mind, the school will offer basic supervised self-study from 9am until 2pm every day for any children of parents of these services. They will not be taught their normal lessons and will need to bring packed lunches but we hope that this will help to support our vital emergency services.
Question about online orders at asda. I placed an order at weekend for delivery on Friday. I wanted to amend the order to get a few more items and it’s says that about 15 items I ordered are no longer available. Does this mean no longer available to buy above what is already ordered, or not availableat all and what I seem to already have paid for won’t be delivered. Not exactly clear!
Posted 17 minutes ago
Normally means that the items are out of stock or predicted to be at the time of your delivery.
Lots of nil picks and substitutions on my drops today so it's going to be an ongoing issue. Our store is now fully booked for deliveries for the next 10 days.
Has anyone on here had it yet?
One serious question: Why aren't frontline medical staff being tested? As far as I know, they're being told to come in even with symptoms. This sounds insane to me.
turn the heating up ! the daily fail are speculating they are canning utility bills and council tax.
and cellars with locks on the outside
Been watching The Road again?
Has anyone on here had it yet?
I came home from work yesterday, after a mate I was biking with on Saturday went down with all the symptoms on Sunday.
I have a couple of aches today, but I'm not sure if that's just through exercise over the weekend/yesterday or something more worrying. I'm keeping my distance as far as practicable anyway, and waiting it out now...
Patrick Vallance being questioned now on bbc news24
Telling fibs about Taiwan not closing their schools. If the chief uk science advisor is going to twist the facts, who the fork is there left to believe?
Well, my youngest has just got home from his last day in school for a good while… other kids were spitting at him in school today. Had to go wash of a big wet one dropped off a balcony onto him. We should have kept him back today really like the other parents of diabetic kids at the school. I knew I’d feel guilty whatever the decision this morning… but I’m pretty sure now that I called it wrong.
If the chief uk science advisor is going to twist the facts, who the fork is there left to believe?
Michael Gove? He looks like an honest kind of chap
Telling fibs about Taiwan not closing their schools.
is he tho?
report about Taiwan schools being open
(I have no idea how reliable this source is but it's one of many saying Taiwan schools are open)
Just got off the phone to my mum and the message really isnt sinking in, she is under the impression that the younger people cant get it, I really do despair, she has even booked a table for my dads birthday next week. Blinkers are defiantly on
One serious question: Why aren’t frontline medical staff being tested? As far as I know, they’re being told to come in even with symptoms. This sounds insane to me.
I was just listening live to the debate in Holyrood and NHS/Care workers (and those who might be subbed in for them) will very definitely be being tested. It's important that those key staff don't self-isolate unnecessarily. testing of workers in other key industries is also proposed - power/utilities etc. I very much doubt that anyone is being told to report for their regular work if they have CV symptoms, unless that is simply in order to be tested.
One serious question: Why aren’t frontline medical staff being tested? As far as I know, they’re being told to come in even with symptoms. This sounds insane to me.
I work in hospital path lab, so not front line exactly. I can confirm we are not being told to come in with symptoms. If I get symptoms, The same rules apply to me as anyone else, likewise if nursery closes and I'm needed for childcare or if the little one gets a cough, I'll be isolating with the family, like anyone else.
It's likely because I work in The lab, if I or my family get symptoms testing of me and/or them will be arranged so that I can be brought back into work more quickly.
Normally means that the items are out of stock or predicted to be at the time of your delivery.
Whilst that's a bit of a first world issue when it comes to my order of lobster and rioja, it's actually not great for those expecting the basics. I have ordered 4 pints of milk, if that doesn't turn up then I'll have to brave the shops...no biggie but not ideal. But If it doesn't turn up for my folks then they they are stuffed. Looks like I need to massively over order in hope some stuff turns up, which is just going to cause additional issues
Sister in law has a lot of the symptoms. Phoned docs as her breathing is very laboured (she's asthmatic)
Got told to go to docs and enter by rear entrance, not main door.
Saw docs, and was told they're not allowed to test her for coronavirus!?!? This was in Scotland.
Sent home and told to isolate.
The number's they're quoting must be miles off the mark.
Classic case of the end result of Boris's refusal to take a proper decision, one of my less than dedicated work colleagues is currently sat in a Manchester pub, taking advantage of the generous new found flexibility he's been awarded by our company. He says he's carrying on as normal until it's all shut down properly because 'nothing is closed by law yet'. Would it be out of order to grass him up to the bosses?
The number’s they’re quoting must be miles off the mark
yes, for confirmed cases, indeed, but the number quoted for estimated cases was in the ten thousand region IIRC?
Michael Gove? He looks like an honest kind of chap
Was he the one who tried cocaine but didn't inhale?
Editor of The Lancet (science journal).
https://twitter.com/richardhorton1/status/1239822069451370496
The number’s they’re quoting must be miles off the mark.
They know this, hence the move towards a more robust measurement routine.
24 hour stores closing from midnight until 6am.
Can't remember if I've posted this here before or not, but a staff member in ASDA was telling me about this yesterday. She said they're doing it out of concerns for safety, they've had customers climbing up on top of pallets and throwing trolleys at the staff.
my folks live in france.... its just sinking in that they are now on their own.
coupled with a 135 euro fine if on the street without a good reason.
More General Melchet than Winston Churchill.
I was thinking Mainwaring.
Trying to stay to the rabbit hole as it felt a bit ground hog day. Been shifted to WFH which puts the WTF risk on an exponential growth curve. Although I have seen and spoken to an actual person today. 70 year old neighbour who then phone to see if I needed shopping sorting. Not sure I've got the hang of this isolate the vulnerable bit. In my defence they were going anyway, they phoned me, I was at a safe distance... yeah, it's just going to turn into an Oh my god - You Killed Kenny situation.
Just got work out how to coral me own folks when I cant risk visiting them!
Laura Kuenssberg says (BBC) that, “The science has changed.” This is not true.
I think one thing we learned from the recent Vote Leave In The General Election shitshow was that Laura Kuenssberg does not fact check stories.
Which right now makes her de facto Tory mouthpiece.
As far as I know, they’re being told to come in even with symptoms. This sounds insane to me.
That’s because you made that up.
Classic case of the end result of Boris’s refusal to take a proper decision, one of my less than dedicated work colleagues is currently sat in a Manchester pub, taking advantage of the generous new found flexibility he’s been awarded by our company. He says he’s carrying on as normal until it’s all shut down properly because ‘nothing is closed by law yet’. Would it be out of order to grass him up to the bosses?
You can’t blame Boris for your friends stupidity.
I think one thing we learned from the recent Vote Leave In The General Election shitshow was that Laura Kuenssberg does not fact check stories.
If there's one thing I've learned from this and Brexit, is that you shouldn't just question whether Tories and Brexiteers are wrong, you should assume it.
Which [s]right now[/s] makes her de facto Tory mouthpiece.
FTFY
I was being generous and assuming that some stories might have been seeded by other political parties.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this and Brexit, is that you shouldn’t just question whether Tories and Brexiteers are wrong, you should assume it.
As long as this thread does not continue for the length of time like the Brexit thread I am fine. If we are still talking about this virus in a year time we are all doomed.
Yay the daily mash and newsthump articles have been cracked open. We're saved...
I've just spoken to someone who works in air traffic control at Edinburgh airport.
Most UK airports are planning to close on Friday for 12 weeks. This is both commercial and political direction.
There will be a few flights, but restricted to a handful of UK airports for international travel and a few for oil rigs etc...
Britain...the Texas of Europe.
Bit harsh on Texas to be honest, we're more backward than that. We'e more like West Virginia or Alabama.
The spokeswoman from the CBI has just been saying how they need big, bold action from the government today to shore up the economy and try and prevent companies going down like dominoes
I suspect she, and the rest of us, are about to be very, very disappointed
Followed shortly afterwards by being very, very ****ing angry
So odds on London being locked down?
You can’t blame Boris for your friends stupidity.
Advice and instruction are different things. The French government have learnt this already… let’s not wait to learn the same lessons the hard way… the government needs to shut down meeting places, and pay the staff, and tell people not to gather, enforced by fines if need be.
My, arguably unreasonable, reaction might be informed by knowing that I have 50+ cans of beer in the house, and my fiends know how to use FaceTime etc.
My school only open to year 7,11 and sixth form tomorrow.
the government needs to shut down meeting places, and pay the staff, and tell people not to gather, enforced by fines if need be.
People also need to take responsibility for themselves and others.
Is anyone else listenong to this Johnson horseshit?
People also need to take responsibility for themselves and others.
Many people are still using pubs to try and keep their local from going out of business and their friends losing their jobs and having no incomes.
Wasn't Rishi Sunak meant to be doing today's daily briefing?
I was curious to see how people other than Boris were going to come across.
OK - just got to the bit where he's on.
Boris +2 every day, was the briefing.
Boris +2 every day, was the briefing.
Thanks
Hadn't got that, at least I maintain the great forum tradition of asking a the question before it should be asked.
My Mum has just been told she needs to self isolate by work, as she's in a high risk group (incurable, but very slow burning cancer). She works part time as a receptionist (and does admin, which they've convienently forgotten) so working from home isn't possible, so they won't be paying her. Nice.
If they're mandated to close the office then they have to pay her, but they aren't so they won't.
People also need to take responsibility for themselves and others.
Of course, but almost every single law we have (and there are a lot) is because there are a number of people that can't or don't. Its also the reason we have government, such as it is at the moment.
Loans.
With interest payments deferred.....
Wow.
Never miss an opportunity to screw the workers.
Cash grants and tax (business rates) cancellations as well though. Good stuff.
That is good news....
someone saw this coming.
Paper published in 2007: "The presence of a large reservoir
of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with
the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb".
https://twitter.com/PstroblM/status/1239893878423072768
3 month mortgage holiday for those effected.
(Nothing for renters - they’ll be pushed hard on that over the next 24 hours - I expect that to come next if the pressure is applied properly.)
Nothing to do with the announcements today but..
Would people think it a good idea if contactless limits were temporarily raised to avoid folks having to use pin machines, which have always struck me as hygienic at best of times?
I only ask as I work for a bank and if it's something folks think makes sense I'll raise it with the bosses.
Doubling it would have no effect on security short term, and cover buying fuel and weekly fresh food for most people.