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There's a faction on Twitter suggesting the late start was due to Mr Sunak being told fund the furlough again or you're sacked.
There’s a faction on Twitter suggesting the late start was due to Mr Sunak being told fund the furlough again or you’re sacked.
I thought furlough was his idea anyway, I cant see him putting up massive resistance to it moments before the press conference, if he was that opposed to it he wouldn't have started it back in april.
And it's not as if he's actually funding it, or even has to balance the books. Drivel
There is another faction that think it’s because boris wanted to watch the rugby. I know which is more likely...
Haha yep, I hardly doubt Sunak was sat with his team crunching the numbers over whether or not he could make one month of furlough payments work!
Since they have to win a vote on it in the commons next week before they implement it, I was wondering whether some MPs had kicked up a stink just before the conference and he had lost the numbers he required to win. Therefore delayed the conference till he got them back on side to avoid the embarrassment of announcing something that wouldnt happen.
I think watching rugby/doing a couple of lines to balance out the booze is the more likely explanation....
There’s a faction on Twitter suggesting the late start was due to Mr Sunak being told fund the furlough again or you’re sacked.
My money would be on this being an ERG related delay. Steve Baker seemed to have had a briefing today.
If it had been a home match a good embellishment of the Boris wants a beer narrative would have been him slipping his handlers and heading for Twickenham.
Since they have to win a vote on it in the commons next week before they implement it, I was wondering whether some MPs had kicked up a stink just before the conference and he had lost the numbers he required to win. Therefore delayed the conference till he got them back on side to avoid the embarrassment of announcing something that wouldnt happen.
Sadly labour would likely vote with the government on this. It's unlikely they'd even abstain. I can see the benefit of a lockdown, this isn't one so will make little difference and put even more businesses under.
Scotland and wales were told the government couldn’t fund furlough for their lockdown and they told northern counties that 67% was max, yet now the whole country is involved (including London) they are doing 80%.
Because they're ****s. Simple.
I think they have Dom covered under the last one.
He never visited a health facility.
I've a car with an MOT due this week. Can't see anything stopping garages working this time ...looks like I'll need to get it booked and done then. that's a shame.
Sandwich
Full MemberThere’s a faction on Twitter suggesting the late start was due to Mr Sunak being told fund the furlough again or you’re sacked.
Hardly seems likely- Sunak championed the furlough because, basically, he knew it would work. Resistance has mostly been from the "centre" of the party who're terrified that people realise that it means welfare spending, printing money and public borrowing are a good idea, after years of peddling the austerity lie. Sunak, for all I don't like him, is a good enough economist to know what works and what has to be done, it's just that he's also a good enough tory to not want to do it.
He never visited a health facility.
There's enough for him to craft a get out by claiming it covers the concern and is not limited to the destination. Drive it like you are going to Barnard Castle.
He never visited a health facility.
He drove to a Hospital near you, while he thought he and his family had Coronavirus, even though he should have stayed put in London.
I’ve a car with an MOT due this week. Can’t see anything stopping garages working this time …looks like I’ll need to get it booked and done then. that’s a shame.
Mine is booked in for Saturday. On the government website they talk about car showrooms being non essential, but no mention of MOTs or servicing.
Drac
He never visited a health facility.
Trip to hospital
The Guardian view on Dominic Cummings: time to go
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Cummings revealed a previously unknown journey to hospital a few miles from his parents’ property. He said his son became ill and was taken there by ambulance, travelling along with his wife, and stayed overnight. The following day, when the boy’s condition improved, Cummings left isolation to pick both up, claiming he had no other option because there were no taxis available. He said he had stayed in the vehicle at all times.Cummings said he was feeling better by this point – although the night before he had been “barely able to stand up”. He acknowledged that the trip fell within his and Wakefield’s isolation period.
Shortly after the rose Garden press conference, Prof Colin Talbot, emeritus professor at the University of Manxhester, noted: “The Cummings/Wakefield family ended up in a hospital in Durham – 260 miles from home. That is precisely the reason the lockdown told people to stay at home if they get sick. So as not to spread the virus around the country.”
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1322613432185749504
the pallet on the oh so clear graph today was the aptly named Viridis Inferno
Some of the excel quotes on Twitter made me laugh hard. And I can say that the JBC and academia are all wedded to R. So the heatmap will have used an R colour palate. Looked dreadful to me. Turning things into slides, well that’s not the job of the analyst, so I have no idea who’s making the excel plots. Excel conditional formatting is not a heatmap, but we’ve all done it for a quick data look 😉
Me, I like SAS, nice graphs (Since V9) and the best database bashing language bar none. You get what you pay for. But you can use it for free as well. I never touch a dataset or plot manually. Never. Always produced by a program, always reproducible.
The slides have been irredeemably hopeless for months. You need a 60 inch telly to even read the text, and the BBC chopped off half of it this time around so you couldn't even see the labelling on the axes. Even if you could read it all, the clutter and sheer quantity of information on each slide makes it meaningless to virtually the entire audience.
As someone who has spent half his professional life looking at stuff like this and attempting to turn it into comprehensible information for the public, it's a little depressing to see an opportunity for clear scientific communication to millions of people chucked away like that.
I think they do to deliberately. They can then argue that they gave the info to everyone but that we were too stupid to know what to do with it so we'd best leave the decision-making to the grown-ups.
The little people need to know their place after all.
After other briefings there has been a bunch of chat by data viz people I follow on twitter and the conclusion has always been the charts are from Tableau but maybe they were so short on time this time around they did dump it in Excel
Viridis is the new black, so to speak - perceptually uniform (no bright yellow in the middle) and prints properly in black and white.
Gove looking very shifty (even by his own standards) when asked by Marr if he leaked the new lockdown details
He also said 4 weeks time was a review date
I could maybe see the SW coming out of it in 4 weeks,
But it took 12 weeks to get from this many hospital admissions in March before they lifted lockdown last time and they also promised a review after a month then
Positive :
We're better at distancing & mask wearing is now normal & adhered to, +there shouldn't be a huge scrum for bog roll this tine
Negatives at same time schools & unis are staying open, which is another route of infection and the weather is much worse, meaning doing stuff outside is much harder
positives...
we are better at distancing... well distancing in some situations, clearly not behind closed doors and away from prying eyees.
mask wearing - although its having nil benefit
so, the only positive i agree with is that we have all learned to use a single sheet of recycled loo roll and/or still have massive stockpiles from march.
No mention of any increase to the 40% for self employed which they previously said was roughly comparable to the furlough payments. They actually said that when it was initially set at just 20%, 70% paye versus 20% self employed, never quite understood that one.
Lots of self employed working, servicing or supplying the business types that are most effected by lockdown as down. The collective voice just doesn’t seem loud enough to be heard for some reason.
if he leaked the new lockdown details
Is anyone honestly falling for the “investigating the leak” nonsense? The Cabinet Office briefing the media in advance is how this team work… pretending it is a ‘leak’ is just part of their gameplay. Put it this way, if yesterday’s announcement really was supposed to happen in the week, how would the furlough scheme and job support schemes be handled? End of furlough, a day or two of the new scheme together with thousands of more job losses, and then an announcement that the newly implemented scheme is scrapped and furlough is returning? It was… Cabinet Office leaks the plans… reaction gauged… presentation of the plans adjusted to fit the reaction to the plans. No mistakes, no unwanted leaks. Pretend to Tory MPs, Ministers, The Speaker and civil servants that it wasn’t intentional. None of them believe it, but (barely) plausible deniability is oh so clever. Right.
Just been to sainsburys to pick up a couple of bits for dinner. The bog roll aisle has been semi looted again. Expensive stuff seems to have been left.
One of my rules in life is to spend more on premium products for life’s cheaper essentials. Research costs money. Toilet paper and sellotape tape both fall into that category.
Totally agree. It's a literal fact that buying cheap toilet paper might end up with you getting poo on your hands
Why not combine your talents? What we need is some definitive research on the change in probability of poke-through for every extra pound you spend on a pack of bog roll.
I appreciate that you are not an engineer, so a deep dive into relative tensile strength properties at different states of saturation is not an option.
Same applies with washing up liquid - Fairy really is better and pretty cheap in the largest sizes. I just keep refilling the small one by the sink from the big one in the cupboard.
Gove is setting the stall out for extending the lockdown then. If it's not long enough before it's even started then why not just announce a longer timeframe yesterday?
Unions pushing for schools in uni closures still, will the lockdown look totally different by the time it gets Infront of parliament to what they fudged last night!?!
Going to be interesting in 4 weeks, BJ is not going to want to go down in history as the PM who cancelled Christmas, at a guess the north returns to tier 3++ whilst the South is allowed a family Christmas.
Toilet paper and sellotape tape both fall into that category.
Just don't confuse the two.....
Maajid Nawaz is on air at LBC at the moment singing the praises of Dr Gupta, apparently you cannot get put through on air if you ask "Put me through to that mouthy wee gobshite Maajid spreading misinformation", my fault......I may try a different tact next time...
The infection rates reported from the coezone app all seem to have been declining for the last few days.
Theu only give the data to people using the app, and the government.
There was a story the other day that they had "adjusted" the levels to improve sensitivity and response. Inevitable in the beta-testing phase....
The threshold score to tell you to isolate on the app was reduced from 900 to 180 in the latest update the other day.
It would have been reduced to a 120 trigger, but they apparently changed the coding to more accurately count time spent at different distances from the infected person who also had the app installed.
I had a "close encounter but don't worry" notification 15 days ago and I wouldn't put money on the software update retrospectively look at my incident and many others who had similar notices within a theoretical isolation period.
The threshold score to tell you to isolate on the app was reduced from 900 to 180 in the latest update the other day.It would have been reduced to a 120 trigger, but they apparently changed the coding to more accurately count time spent at different distances from the infected person who also had the app installed.
What do those 900 / 180 etc numbers refer to? Some sort of multiplication of time spent near someone and distance from them?
Yep, but no detail given at https://healthtech.blog.gov.uk/2020/10/29/how-the-nhs-covid-19-app-is-making-the-most-of-cutting-edge-global-technology/ that was given as a link from the BBC article midweek
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54733534
Got the new threshold scores wrong way around, it was going to be 180, but now 120 with the "smarter" algorithm.
Apropos the app - I got a log of (as I understand it) the times my phone has seen another phone. Most of the time I was at home and no other phone this side of a concrete wall. Makes me question the value.
Does anybody me know the answer to this? Struggling to find out online.
Our childminder’s husband has been asked to isolate through track and trace after someone on his shift got Covid. He will be staying upstairs in their house despite having no symptoms, and he doesn’t have to get a test. Should our kid still be going for a couple of hours after school?
It's taken me a day of sifting through my old MSc Mathematical Modelling notes but I now understand why the @TiRed analysis yesterday was so frightening
He used a different distribution:
