why us this not feeding thru’ a a national level?
As Johnson has outsourced all his thinking to his boss everything is currenty run through Cummings giant brain so maybe thats the backlog
Well.. that's me in local lockdown then.
It's been on the cards for a while. It's going to have a very minor impact on my life really.
Well.. that’s me in local lockdown then.
It’s been on the cards for a while. It’s going to have a very minor impact on my life really.
You in South Wales? All my family back in Newport / Cardiff are in a local lockdowns now too. I will be following shortly London just got put on the watch list.
The whole 10pm thing for my son and a lot of people his age will mean getting pissed in the pub until 10, then carrying on in someone else's house until the early hours. There is very rarely more than 6 of them, so business as usual.
Still no test results here, ffs.
Thanks again for the video link Bill. I’m now a bit less ignorant, and definitely not blissful. Worth everyone watching it… the Long COVID stuff is scary. Have something positive to do after watching…
Watched the first two speakers, not sure I have the stomach for the rest!
I think you [all] should watch it all… the Q&A addresses a lot of things discussed recently in this thread.
As Johnson has outsourced all his thinking to his boss everything is currenty run through Cummings giant brain so maybe thats the backlog
Do you really believe Cummings is anything but Boris's handler appointed by Boris's bosses?
I think you [all] should watch it all
OK, added to my watch list for tonight. (an hour long)
Bad news - after 2 kids with snotty noses all week, my daughter now has a temperature, so it’s Covid test time.
Good news, straight on the new app, and booked a test for tomorrow morning 45 min drive away.
Ive had to pull out of the last cricket match of the season due to 14 day isolation 😣
Both schools have already sent a whole year home due to positive tests. This is in East Sussex, one of the lowest areas in the country.
Kryton57
Full Member
Still no test results here, ffs.
my brothers got lost
he just went back to work after a week of waiting
one of the most interesting points about the indy SAGE meeting was that parts of the body with most ACE- receptors are the ovaries & testes
the accepted wisdom that the young & children are fine is just guesswork, has any work been done on covid effects on fertility in mice etc?
Children of Men/ Handmaids Tale anyone?
So that tells us people testing positive are members of society!
Can I ask if this is breaking the rule of 6 law, and I'd like to say this is theoretical and not happened (yet).
If my 2 kids go out to play with they're 2 friends up the road and they stay outside the house and on the driveway. Then another 2 kids from nextdoor join them. Is that six? Or is that 8 because there are 2 parents inside the house but not with the kids?
This used to happen a lot before Covid 19 and could happen again but don't want to be breaking the law by sending our kids out to play.
kryton - assume 72 hours for results.
Keep testing folks...
Well, first face to face Scout night tonight, and British Gymnastics have allowed senior display squads to do lifts again.
Friday night Dad's Taxi has resumed...
so the data seems to be around, why us this not feeding thru’ a a national level?
https://twitter.com/edconwaysky/status/1309540574215757825?s=21
[ sorry greentricky - missed that you’d posted that ]
Well despite the First Minister asking everyone to not use this weekend before lockdown starts as an excuse to have a party it seems that there is currently 3 house parties going on on my estate right now.
N, I'm not going to join them.
binners - thanks, hic! bottle, glass, bottle...oh, sod the glass.
Torygraph front page - 3 million tests a day to save Christmas.
Just the slightest whiff of bullshit.
World leading, following the science, ramping up, unprecedented - tra la la...
This bunch of clowns must know their credibility is shot to shit and they will only survive because of the 80 seat majority wilfully gifted to them by corbyn and his acolytes at the last GE.
This shows nothing, other than people who get covid are people, you would need to have the same data for those without covid to even get started.
dantsw13
Free Member
So cases starting to rise, and hospitalisations following as predicted.How long until we run out of PPE again? I have ZERO faith that we have sensibly stockpiled for the winter.
Don't worry. There will be lots of new companies that may or may not be linked to Tory MPs ready to take payment to not deliver PPE
2 x negative tests, whoop! I can go racing today and junior can go back to school Monday knowing his cough is nothing more than... something else.
It’s a big relief, and otherwise now it’s batten the hatches, order some coffee beans and see the winter through. London’s on alert so I’ve not doubt very shortly we’ll not be seeing anyone else for a bit without Zoom.
Great news, wouldnt wish 14 days isolation on even an England Rugby fan!!!
I read on the BBC Website that amongst the huge surge of kids getting tested, only 1% are positive, as opposed to 3.5% amongst adults.
Hopefully this means that colds and coughs are ripping through schools rather than COVID-19, but if 1 virus spreads that easily...........
Would be funny if it weren't so depressingly predictable...
http://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1309523430887370755?s=19
ONS Chart showing excess deaths from 1950 to 2019.
Puts the Covid19 numbers into an interesting context.
I keep seeing this … excess winter mortality is comparing winter deaths to summer deaths … when talking about excess deaths as regards COVID19, those are deaths above and beyond the deaths that would normally be expected for that time of year. They are not comparable statistics. We are risking this winter having the “normal” huge seasonal rise in deaths AND thousands of extra deaths due to COVID19 on top of that… and of course all the strain on the health services from those who get ill and don’t die… let’s not get complacent just because we already have so many winter related deaths and cases of serious illness.
If we use the controls we did in the spring again this winter, we could be looking at 20,000 excess deaths above what we have been seeing in winters for the past 20 odd years. If we do nothing (we won’t), we’re looking at 200,000 plus. That’s on top of the ‘normal’ excess winter deaths you’re looking at in that graph. The graph would need a new scale. Context.
I read on the BBC Website that amongst the huge surge of kids getting tested, only 1% are positive, as opposed to 3.5% amongst adults.
But if tye increase in testing is in the kids it could still be a big increase in positive kids. Bloody journo's not understanding simple numbers again.
If we do nothing (we won’t), we’re looking at 200,000 plus. That’s on top of the excess winter deaths you’re looking at in that graph.
Where's the 200,000 coming from? As the lovely Dido would say, I'm not sure I recognise that figure.
We are already doing 'something'. There is a measure of social distancing, home working, people staying off public transport, mask use in shops etc. It's not enough, IMO, but enough to mitigate the worst-case scenario to an extent.
Yes, we are doing something, that’s why I said we won’t do “nothing”. That won’t happen. That number of deaths won’t happen. Because of the measures we are already taking and others we are likely to take this winter. That’s just a reminder that the measures that many people want to shrug off are not pointless, they are life saving.
Earlier this year the figure in a “do nothing” scenario was 500,000 … I don’t think that still stands, because more is known about treatment and the NHS is better prepared. The 200,000 was just me taking a punt.
Question for the likes of Tired etc. If the rise in virus numbers is slowed by mitigation as to an extent we are seeing now, what limits the rise. if for example do nothing gives 500 deaths a day by mid Nov, but we mitigate, what stops it getting to 500D/day by mid Jan? And assuming when we hit that number we do a march lockdown which would lead to more deaths?
The (short) “lockdown” that everyone pretends isn’t coming. Current measures are slowing the growth. At some point we’ll need to turn that growth into a plateau, and then get it dropping. All eyes on half term for state schools in England, as a lock down while schools are open just won’t work.
I’m sure you’d rather hear from TiRed though… I know I would.
Oh, also, I think all eyes are on London this Autumn. With extra national measures put in place after the capital gets the local measures much of the rest of us have already.
I don’t think anyone is looking as far ahead as March.
Surely total deaths and area under curve bigger in second scenario?
Surprised that going shopping looks like a likely route of transmission. I've stayed away from the pub, however don't think twice about popping to local supermarket. May need a rethink.
Surprised that going shopping looks like a likely route of transmission
It isnt, its just something almost everyone does!
Going shopping is considered low risk in France and Germany. The evidence is obvious, everyone was still shopping during confinement when the infection rate dropped dramatically.
Shopping doen't involve being in close proximity to people without a mask for long enough.
The evidence is obvious, everyone was still shopping during confinement when the infection rate dropped dramatically.
This is bullshit.
That is all.
As I said earlier unless you present the same data for those not catching covid that data is pointless.
"Shopping" its also a massively wide range of different things.
Shopping has been made much safer since the spring. Supermarkets are still doing a roaring trade with home deliveries though. A hell of a lot of people have changed how they shop, and retailers have changed how they sell. New measures are coming into place here as well… with shop staff being asked to mask up at last.
