No chance.
six waves of C19 before next Spring
Without a heavily enforced long term lockdown (and all the associated problems), or hugely impressive improvements in testing and contact tracing multiple waves (assuming intermittent lock downs) is an inevitability surely.
It’s only immunity by vaccination or infection(assuming that gives immunity), or the virus mutates into something less harmful that’ll stop it.
So Sharma has just announced the rapid building of a uk vaccine Centre, to enable the uk manufacture at scale of a vaccine once found.
crikey - good to know you're -ve but, as you say, the downside is you're still playing covid roulette.
Roads here aren't anywhere near normal level of busy but definitely busiest since restrictions began. Main road now has a vehicle a the very minimum every 1-2mins. Food run had about 10 cars in each direction over about 10 miles - compared to a usual of a handful of commercial vehicles. Less cyclists at the moment.
Part of it must be people getting through their stockpiles and getting out into the world of shopping.
That guidance seems to be cropping up all over social media. It's going to be all you had to do was one thing situations - not even stay at home just not take the piss. At least local police are saying they will turn people round who they believe don't have a legitimate reason for travel. Nice dry weather, the urge to barbecue - a whole heap of unnecessary time wasting for the emergency services seems inevitable.
Yeah, cheers for the thoughts.
My wife works with me and she's negative too, so I have to let her back into our bed tonight. It's a dreadful thing this virus... 😉
During the week, the stay-at-home order only applies to those under the age of 20 or over 65. All other citizens are in theory allowed to go out, although many small businesses are closed, restaurants are open for delivery or pick-up only, public places like parks are off limits, and banks have limited hours.
There was a guy on R4 this lunchtime talking about the ONS numbers and pointing out only 11 people under 45 with no pre-existing conditions had died. The implication was (assuming they checked that demographic didn't create too many hospital admissions) households where every member was under 45 could go back to normal while the remainder could stay locked down. A very fast way to to assist the economy and build up some resistance in the population.
I've no idea if that flies or not but it deffo feels like more sophisticated lockdowns might be an alternative to total lockdowns over the coming couple of years throughout Europe/the world.
My wife works with me and she’s negative too, so I have to let her back into our bed tonight. It’s a dreadful thing this virus…
😀
My ITU nurse mate is sleeping in a tent in the garden as his daughter has a heart condition.
That’s so when the end of the month testing target isn’t met he can blame it on staff not turning up.
A friend is helping at one of the drive through test centres and says it's been quieter than expected.
Possibly because they are all exhausted and just want to get home
There was a guy on R4 this lunchtime talking about the ONS numbers and pointing out only 11 people under 45 with no pre-existing conditions had died.
What about under 47!!!!
Some areas now less than 24 hours away from running out of PPE, despite desperate calls for more.
The poor bastards working in local care homes are even worse off.
Do not believe the lies.
There will be a reckoning after this.
There will be a reckoning after this.
Come on. You know there won't. 🙁
Number of deaths have jumped significantly against previous years which proves plenty of people are dying 'of' CV. Exact numbers in a few years I would have thought.
What about under 47!!!!
Doomed, I'm afraid.
only 11 people under 45 with no pre-existing conditions had died
Well that's ok then.
In other number news:
https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1251179472482643973
It will be months if not years before the true number and cause of deaths is worked out, and we'll still be squabbling on the forum about what is The Truth
There might be a reckoning and an assigning of blame but with a massive parliament majority there's bugger that will happen other than words.
I know of several cases where deaths have occurred and cause of death has been reported as Covid-19 despite the patients testing negative for it.
I don’t think this is some sort of conspiracy, but it is odd.
JP
The tests aren't partially reliable I've been informed by an insider.
That was the reason given, but that sort of thing is that easiest way to start conspiracy theories.
JP
There might be a reckoning and an assigning of blame but with a massive parliament majority there’s bugger that will happen other than words.
Maybe the govt will be protected but it won't be only the Government that have made mistakes. We can be pretty sure that everyone involved will have made mistakes so there will be plenty of blame allocated outside the Government with hindsight for those that like to see blame allocated. There will be UK, EU and worldwide blamefests with , Governments, NGOs and Civil servants in the firing line. A world wide circular blame firing squad.
...and a future government might well hold a second enquiry to chuck some blame at the current UK government. (2009 Chilcot Stylee)
So rejoice, I think the one commodity that won't be lacking in this is blame.
That was the reason given, but that sort of thing is that easiest way to start conspiracy theories.
Failing to record someone dying with blatant severe CV symptoms as a CV death would also start conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theorists always find some kind of evidence to support their pet theories. Not that they need evidence.
jekkyl
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There might be a reckoning and an assigning of blame but with a massive parliament majority there’s bugger that will happen other than words.
I sincerely hope you are wrong.
The way I feel right now, violence is becoming an attractive option.
but that sort of thing is that easiest way to start conspiracy theories
Then don’t.
Anyone have fake track and trace message in the what could possibly go wrong with the mobile app approach to contact tracing? Seems it's already started and the actual apps haven't gone anywhere yet.
Does anyone seriously expect any of us, whether its at a government level, or the general public to learn and go forward from this? Christ, I hope we do, but will we? No one in government will be seriously taken to task; the media don't have the balls or ability anymore, and us lot, the public? Won't we all just be glad to be earning again? the kids back at school, going down to the chippy, a little holiday away again.
I hope something positive comes out of this, but I doubt it.
God I want chip shop chips now!
Me too Kelvin, me too
God I want chip shop chips now!
Definitely. Proper fish super with mushy peas - it is Friday after all.
I have pizza. I should be looking forward to it… but can’t get chip shop chips out of my head now! With bits, of course (scraps if you live over the hill).
Kelvin, stop, I hadn't even though about scraps. That's just made it worse.
God I want chip shop chips now!
Just Eat is your friend and order at 1pm for evening delivery. *smug mode on* Madame ordered for us yesterday and we dined on full-fat fish and chips for her birthday tea.
God I want chip shop chips now!
The chip shop around the corner from me gave me a bag of tatties. Mrs is chipping them now.
There’s 2 chippys in the town I live still open. The usual (best) one has shut however.
RM.
Our chippy closed 2 weeks ago as his suppliers closed.
He's just launched a new website for online ordering for collection, so I'm hopeful he'll be back open in a week or two.
The pizza place next door hasn't closed though, doing a roaring trade since the Indian and Chinese went into lockdown.
Have I mentioned we have great riding from the village as well?
Furlough Friday was delivered Chinese, and lovely it was too.
What about under 47!!!!
Massive spike in my analysis, just at this age, notably in anyone with alliteration in their name, Not sure I've found out exactly why yet, but I can't see any coding errors.
I'm 54 and that's the same numbers as 45 so I reckon I'm ok, I can't see how the order can make that much difference.
And I want curry sauce with my chips
same numbers as 45
Now you're just being silly. You'll get 91DIVOC instead, and it doesn't go down the throat either...
Oh, that means I’m 24
Bonus
Slow handclap
Colleagues at northwick park have been asking for full length gowns for ages !
North Northumberland roads are pretty quite SE Northumberland it’s just like a normal week day. 🤦🏻♂️
Not sure how to quote! anyway, not my perception today, must admit...drove from Ashington to Alnwick, back down to Scotswood then back to Ashington and very quiet all the way...having said that, walking home from work 10 reg Golf passed (well, passed really quickly with a super loud exhaust!) me with 5 20odd yr olds in...you just think, what are they thinking of 🙁
We just had aldi select chunk chips chips, & their lemon & pepper duated Basa fillets with tinned mushy peas
Its not proper chip shop but it's not bad !
