Too...much...spare...time
Haha! That’s ace.
And as a small update my Gran is confirmed covid. They’re treating with steroids and antibiotics she’s off O2 and doing ok but of course it’s very early days.
Sounds positive, fingers crossed.
People are saving money yes, me included and yes I intend to maybe to have a break somewhere with other family members or friends. Not because I think it’ll a bargain but to catch-up and socialise again. Also to help support companies, pubs and other businesses that are currently struggling.
Of course I could be a miser and claim these companies and individuals will be profiteering or taking advantage.
Cheers AA very early days but here’s hoping.
also helps people feel that they’re part of a wider community, which in turn makes it more likely that they’ll abide by lockdown regs, social distancing etc.
Good point of the day.
Maybe it is me that's wrong then.
I'm not saying that when things are over we shouldn't start to live again, but to do so aware of the impact this is likely to have on those less fortunate, who have lost their livelihoods as a result, those who already were on the breadline even before this happened.
Instead of the impact being that their usual holiday in Spain can now be converted to a fortnight in the Caribbean, and they're OK about that because they once spent a bit of money on an NHS worker's food shop.
3000 being repatriated from India. Into quarantine or straight back into their communities do we think? I guess if lockdown works it shouldn't matter?
3000 being repatriated from India. Into quarantine or straight back into their communities do we think? I guess if lockdown works it shouldn’t matter?
Well if it’s anything like 2 months ago then they may spend 2 weeks in quarantine.
Instead of the impact being that their usual holiday in Spain can now be converted to a fortnight in the Caribbean, and they’re OK about that because they once spent a bit of money on an NHS worker’s food shop.
It must pretty depressing spending your life being so negative.
If they have a job to go back to after 3 months off. Thousands of businesses will go under despite the bail outs and loans.
All the people 3 wage packets from bankruptcy will be worried about the future. The rich will get richer, the poor poorer, the middle majority will be taxed for thw rest of their lives.
Will things change dramatically, maybe with the brexit double whammy it will be a period of depression, followed by zero growth for maybe a decade and the sheep will still vote Tory.
Nearly gave the nurse who popped in to the brewery shop our ppe, she looked shattered but i forgot about the gloves that fit no one till after she had left.
Our turnover is pretty much the same. People are happy to spend into 3 figures buying beer to keep them sane. We get regulars who go through 36 pints a week in their household. Impressive and worrying at the same time
Instead of the impact being that their usual holiday in Spain can now be converted to a fortnight in the Caribbean,
A week in Benni upgraded to the Caribbean on the strength of a few pence of petrol and a couple off free lunches 😂😂
Drac I really hope your gran is over the worst of it.
I have a very good friend who is a HEART Paramedic and he has been on duty during the 8pm applause he said he had to wipe his eyes before moving off.
He also said to someone in our local Sainsburys who wanted to pay for his stuff, "Thank you thats very kind of you but please just buy a few more things and give them to the food bank, I can afford food many cant"
I like friends like that 🙂
While I agree the clap thing for the NHS is a nice touch please dont forget all the staff in the nursing homes are dealing with the same issues.
Yup I’ve been offered bits through Facebook groups and told them similar.
Top secret stuff: I get free coffee, bacon butties and other things when at work in many places anyway as people do appreciate the NHS. I take take as they’re appreciated in return I’ll go to these places off duty and recommend to friends.
Way back in this thread I posted I’m grateful and thankful I’m still being paid. I’ve been using as many local businesses that are open as I can, more than normal too, I’ve also bought vouchers in local businesses that are offering them to keep open this blows over. No Caribbean holiday though but if anyone wants to give me one 😂
While I agree the clap thing for the NHS is a nice touch please dont forget all the staff in the nursing homes are dealing with the same issues.
I see it for all key workers not just the NHS.
I’d say letting customers purchase unlimited numbers of essential items, thus leaving shelves empty and forcing people to go to numerous shops to get essential items was unethical.
except for a very small minority this only happened in the popular consciousness. during the period of 'stockpiling' only 6% of households spent more than average. ( sauce 'more or less' R4 ). 27 million households deciding to buy an extra bag of pasta nationwide does funny things to a JIT supply network with a 'bit' of capacity built in to it.
we've all grown accustomed to being able to go to the supermarket at any time of the day and night and being able to buy quinoa and bulgar. when that supply chain got tested it broke.
news reporting should bear more responsibility for what panic buying there was.
A week in Benni upgraded to the Caribbean on the strength of a few pence of petrol and a couple off free lunches
He’s also not taken into account the likely rarity and increased cost of Aeroplane seats and Hotels trying to regain lost revenue into the equation. It’s a flawed - and apparently slightly jealous - argument.
except for a very small minority this only happened in the popular consciousness.
Yup it was a very small amount who I hope now feel pretty embarrassed.
Re that ^^ there’s a news article this more with a Senior police person retracting comments to the effect police would search peoples shopping to out them on non essentials.
10 packs of bog roll yes, but policing the bottle of Rioja I put in my basket yesterday would be very nanny state. On the other hand JUST going out for that bottle would be inappropriate but also obvious to spot no?
Indeed. Make sure you get some good cheese too.
https://twitter.com/CambridgeCops/status/1248285756931682312?s=19
A ha ha ha ha.
Was delivering that chocolate an essential journey?
As for blaming the supermarkets
A lot of the problems go back to the initial indecision/strategy not to lock down (remember those days)
After the big u-turn the government went into panic mode, serial BSer Hancock, in an attempt to make it look like they had a plan, claimed that they had spoken to supermarkets about supplies during a lockdown.
The supermarkets complained this was a lie & that the government had been ignoring their pleas to discuss lockdown.
Are the Police actually checking people’s trolleys are is this more bollocks?
Very essential trip that Morrison’s have been dropping eggs at care homes, hospitals, police, fire and ambulance stations here and other areas. Mmmmm! Free chocolate.
Those tweets are genuinely from Cambridge Police.
Where does it say in those tweets they were checking trolleys?
@Drac https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-police-backtrack-after-chief-threatened-to-search-shoppers-trolleys-11971269
My cousin and his wife both work in the ICU
Ah! Threatened. What an utter dick move by him.
Full admiration for ICU staff Scotroutes. My SIL is part of the covid team at a local hospital here. She lives on her own goes home exhausted alone and spends her days off alone. Its a tough time for many.
Good news indeed Kryton.
Will it be in unmarked Jiffy bags..?
He’s also not taken into account the likely rarity and increased cost of Aeroplane seats and Hotels trying to regain lost revenue into the equation. It’s a flawed – and apparently slightly jealous – argument.
Maybe aeroplane seats but hotels? Do you reckon the oversupply is going to cause price increases?
As for jealous? If I wanted I could batten down, cancel paying the voluntary kids subs, sack the window cleaner and the dog walker, bank the amount I spend on petrol (ca £300 a month) but I'm keeping them all going and pushing some of the excess into charitable donations rather than build a holiday fund. Maybe that's stupid, I have less than 2 years service, we're facing a huge drop in revenue and if jobs get cut I could be gone with virtually nothing, maybe I should be looking after #1 a bit more but there's many more that are hugely worse off.
It must pretty depressing spending your life being so negative
If by negative, I prefer pessimistic that some parts of society are seeing this as a chance to benefit while others are going to suffer massively due to the economic downturn. We criticise the companies and disaster capitalists that are going to turn the situation to their own advantage without a care for those that will need it most, but don't think the same about individuals? If that makes me negative, then OK, I'd rather be lumped in with those than some of the ***** that seem to think this is somehow good because they get to piss about working from home and building their reserves to spend on things or a big holiday when it's done.
Maybe I'm pissing into the wind. But clapping outside my house and buying lunch for a nurse doesn't rebalance that equation in my book.
As for blaming the supermarkets
A lot of the problems go back to the initial indecision/strategy not to lock down (remember those days)
Tbh with the queuing lines and limiting no’s of people in the shop I don't think they’re doing that bad after being left to their own devices.
And it does seem that the home delivery Is scaling up to the demand.(or I’ve been very lucky)
Instead of the impact being that their usual holiday in Spain can now be converted to a fortnight in the Caribbean,
Is the roadying any good in the Caribbean as I'm supposed to be in Mallorca right now..... re booked for October, whats the odds on me re booking for Christmas!!!
somehow good because they get to piss about working from home and building their reserves to spend on things or a big holiday when it’s done.
I'm definitely going on holiday and having a big blowout when this is over. Getting money back into the economy has to be a good thing surely?
Also doing what I can to help people in the here and now.
We live in a typical old, narrow Spanish street with 5 stories of flats each side. Your opposite neighbours are close enough to have a conversation without having to raise your voice. Down here on the 1st floor we get about an hour of sunlight a day on the balcony this time of year. My 6yo hasn't left the house for a month, neither have his friends, or the elderly people who live alone. It's been a long month, and realistically we're looking at mid May until anything changes.
It does help though, when everyone is on the balconies at 8pm applauding the Osakidetza, the Basque NHS, as the narrow street amplifies the applause to football stadium levels.
Locally speaking (ie the province) we're 20pc down on confirmed cases with the highest level of tests performed yet, so fingers crossed.
theotherjohnv theres a fine line between being a victimised martyr and educated philanthropy.
Your coming across as the former here, albeit your intentions are obviously good.
Fingers crossed Bob
Hopefully that book will be of use soon enough!
Locally speaking (ie the province) we’re 20pc down on confirmed cases with the highest level of tests performed yet, so fingers crossed.
That's good to hear,hope it continues it's downward trend
Why victimised? It's entirely my choice, I'm just disappointed at some of the personal greed that I'm seeing, greed that we rightly call out when companies are doing it. I'll caveat that with I'm not seeing the worst excesses here, but on local FB pages there are some awful examples. Like firing the cleaner and cancelling the club subs, but then boasting about how much they're saving in that and petrol money and how they're going to spend it on themselves when it's over.
OK, it goes back in the economy in the end but meanwhile the club's gone bust and the organiser bankrupt and the cleaner can't eat properly....
If I'm wrong in thinking this, I don't really want to be right.
Surprised at the number of people saying"when this is over" as if everything will be suddenly back to what used to pass for normal, we will be living with this for the foreseeable future it isn't just going to go away.
The economic damage of this and brexit are nearly as scary as the virus
Surprised at the number of people saying”when this is over” as if everything will be suddenly back to what used to pass for normal,
Yep its going to be years. We need a vaccine and it needs to be rolled out to huge number of people.
Although I agree life after of.lockdown will be different i dont think its scary. Yes, well all likely need to.make changes and adjustments but we will adapt.
Some of those will be positive. Im currently having lunch with the kids in the sun and the garden for free. When did we ever do that, we are usually rushing around everywhere. Maybe we should take the cue forward.
Retired 2 years ago so sitting in the garden when the sun is shining is the norm for me 😎
Surprised at the number of people saying”when this is over”
Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread that that Covid 19 mutates more slowly than flu, but it does still mutate (I'm sure I saw at least one news report advising that there were 3 strains in the wild at present). Is it going to be something like flu that revisits us on a regular basis in a slightly different guise (needing new vaccines) or is it too early to say? I've even seen some suggestions that Covid 19 is, unusually, transmissible to and from some animals meaning that it could, potentially lay low in the wild and resurface later.
10 packs of bog roll yes, but policing the bottle of Rioja I put in my basket yesterday would be very nanny state. On the other hand JUST going out for that bottle would be inappropriate but also obvious to spot no?
Part of the problem with the original statement as I saw it, was the the police seemed to be suggesting that they'd be picking up on non-essential items amongst essential shopping. If, as mentioned, folk are making specific/additional trips to buy non-essential items you could argue that there's a problem but picking up items to improve your well being/mental health during lockdown whilst out doing your once a day essential shop seems fine (we bought some DVDs through Amazon a couple of weeks back - non-essential &, it could be argued, giving the delivery driver additional exposure).
@piemonster looking on the bright side I am progressing through the book! Gotta keep the eye in!