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Remote learning can be really effective if the parents take an interest making sure the kids do the work and have understood it. Many of you parents are at home with your kids, take an interest, you might learn soemthing too.
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Feel free to send your kids to school, I’ll be on holiday!
What attitude will that be then,
Can't imagine, no smiley so those of us not in the know might have taken that at face value especially given some of your previous posts.
Yep aware some teachers are off as they are vulnerable, care for others who are vulnerable, plenty who aren't in these catrgories as well.
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Point 1 - fair comment, I'd want negotiation about such a big contract change.
Point 2 - fair enough for the kids, they do need a break, 6 weeks in one stint is a bit long though, be better spreading the weeks out.
Point 3 - I expect a lot of people will be working extra hours, those lucky enough to still have a job, those recovering from the financial effects of furlough. There will be a lot needing doing to get society back on its feet and as teachers are such key workers I'd expect them to muck in.
indeed they are often in for significant parts of it for in service training, induction of new teachers etc etc.
TJ what a load of guff, some of the senior teachers are in and most teachers do some work in the holiday periods but to suggest most work significant parts of yhe holidays shows your lack of understanding. Your second point though is pretty spot on, chances of getting kids into school in meaningful numbers is nil given pre-booked holidays etc.
Many of you parents are at home with your kids, take an interest, you might learn soemthing too.
It’s true. We did spelling today.
I’m learning that teachers are even shitter at anything IT related than I’d imagined.
"Remote learning can be really effective if the parents take an interest making sure the kids do the work and have understood it. Many of you parents are at home with your kids, take an interest, you might learn soemthing too."
Thanks, I certainly take an interest. My question was mainly about how schools are likely to deal with it, not my personal situation.
Back in my day even projectors and TV's would befuddle most teachers 😀
I’m learning that teachers are even shitter at anything IT related than I’d imagined.
What with no training and being asked on a Thursday to be educating all students at home by Monday (I'm only exaggerating slightly, this is more or less what the Government expected)?
I actually think (based on my knowledge of local schools in Somerset) that schools are doing an amazing job. They have adapted to a completely different way of working with no warning and little or no resource.
The feedback we have had from parents and the local community in general has been really positive. With many of our vulnerable families they have not heard from their social workers, Virtual Schools (children looked after) or other external support but they are getting regular contact from us. As above, we are open over Easter for children of key workers and vulnerable children. We have also been warned that we may have to continue staffing school over the summer holiday; which we will do as we have a key role in supporting our community and it is the right thing to do.
What’s this rubbish in the press about them thinking about opening schools up again, because it’s shown to not make much difference as kids aren’t badly effected. True, but what about spreading it to all the parents and school staff who may well die from it, or pass it on.
Am I stupid or is this a really bad idea?
What with no training and being asked on a Thursday to be educating all students at home by Monday
I missed the smiley! They’re all doing a great job, to be fair. 😀
They’re certainly not losing their famed sense of humour either. 😉
Just got in from work and gone for a walk, saw a police patrol driving round the bottom end of the local park, walked to the top of the park and the evening weed dealing **** hang out was full of the towns popping and farting exhaust chav mobiles all there having a MaxPower get together!
Rang local police to instruct them to drive round and go to the top car park instead for a bustomatic on them all.
Chav idiots.
It’s non-contactual work – do you do that?
Ha ha ha, is that a real question? Spent much time in the private sector?
I’ll bow out at this point, it seems I’ve managed to massively derail the busiest thread on STW.
Suffice to say the Teachers and Partners of Teachers of STW don’t think it’s a good idea to extend the school term past it’s usual end. Noted.
Jesus, No.10 can’t even do social distancing for the TV
C4 News just now had a clip showing a bloke delivering flowers to No.10.
Door opens, out leans a police officer (or security guard) and the guy delivering the flowers passes them directly to him.
Suffice to say the Teachers and Partners of Teachers of STW don’t think it’s a good idea to extend the school term past it’s usual end. Noted.
I think it's more that you think any opposition from teachers to your idea is "flaky". But yeah, I'm out.
I liked this thread when it had more scientific content.
Bitching about teachers doesn't help any of us.
Easter holidays provide a natural break in the war and time to take stock on whether things can be lifted. Looking an my predictions l, Spain and Italy are looking like they have reached peak COVID and that informs on the U.K. position. But.... here is the kicker... forward projection assumes that things do not change appreciably before the fire is over.
I cannot see a return to school next term. The U.K. epidemic will be declining by summer half-term, at which point it’s only “half a term to go” and the risk of a mass increase in mixing will be seen as too great.
And I have ALWAYS had A-A down as an all-round good guy and credit to the teaching profession. Since nobody asked. I have immense respect for anyone that takes that vocation.
I cannot see a return to school next term. The U.K. epidemic will be declining by summer half-term, at which point it’s only “half a term to go” and the risk of a mass increase in mixing will be seen as too great.
I've been saying this since day 1.
On the thornier subject of school timetables - I can see that there might be a need for some initial extra workload/changing of school holidays during 2020. Perhaps even a return to school a month earlier than normal in order to catch up, or a modification/reduction of the Autumn mid-term break. That surely shouldn't need a review of teachers contracts etc
Anybody know the provenance of the IHME (Seattle)?
They are predicting the UK will be the worst hit in Europe with 40% of the dead (3,000 a day at peak, 66,000 by August, peak in 10 days) apparently due to dicking about with ‘herd immunity’... 😱
Or so it says here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts
Hoping @TiRed can cast some light (esp. wrt predictions...) as that’s some pretty ****ing scary shit...
We're both teachers with a 6yo only child at home who needs help with his work, keeping him occupied, getting him online for his school hangouts classes, all the while setting work, (I've done 5h of video classes today) so it's been great fun juggling all that. Can't wait to go for a ride...
Oh.
I’m learning that teachers are even shitter at anything IT related than I’d imagined.
Genuine lol remembering when our teacher would roll in the TV/VCR trolley to watch Look and Read and spend the entire class fiddling with the cables to no avail
To see arrogant tossers trolling out the ignorant and defamatory tropes has hit a nerve.
I can see where you got your username from. 😃
I've just realised who Dominic Raab reminds me of (seen here with the rest of the cabinet).
@scotroutes: it’s not really any less scary in graphs and infographics.
I was wondering if they were ‘legit’ or click bait. My confirmation bias says if it’s passed the guardian it’s reasonably reliable but, you know, confirmation bias....
@metalheart I was going to ask exactly the same thing.
@TiRed why do you think the imhe data is so significantly different to all other studies so far?
@metalheart - the graphs at least show that they've already massively overestimated for yesterday and today.
The problem with deaths reported yesterday and today is we don’t actually know when they died. Or if they represent the true total number for the day (see the variation you’ve already reported for Scottish deaths outside of hospital for starters)...
I was quite disturbed when I found the wife playing scrabble with herself today
https://twitter.com/forest_fr1ends/status/1247601477402726400
read the words
https://twitter.com/funnypenny/status/1247603978680090629/photo/1
FINAL predictions are VERY sensitive to model assumptions during the ascending part of the curve. That has to be factored into ANY future prediction. It is still rather early for the UK, slightly early for Spain, although I can call Italy. My model uses forward information to inform on the UK trends.
I have just this evening added a final prediction statistic to the plots. For Italy this number is likely to be robust:
Italy 33000 (29400 to 37400) deaths
Spain will be worse. I think that is all I want to say tonight.
How effective can remote learning be? Will they revisit/revise work from the summer term next September, or do they carry on in September as normal?
Remote learning will be shit, many are doing nothing, some are doing some and others are drowning in an attempt to do it all. A quarter of parents think we arent setting enough, another quarter think we arecsetting to much and the other half havent looked. Much like homework in general it will widen the gap between free school meal /pp kids and the rest.
Mostly I am expecting to pretty much take up where we left off. For current year 10's its going to be hard to get the course completed, maybe exams could be pushed back into the holidays next summer but it is going to be the same for all.
it will widen the gap between free school meal /pp kids and the rest
Exactly this… entirely possible to teach remotely, but can’t do the parenting gap filling and social care that teachers in schools with a deprived intake perform on a daily basis in more normal times. Most people have no idea what many teachers do beyond what their own kids require of them.
Some kids won’t just fall behind while schools are shut, they will fall through the cracks completely. Hearing the efforts that some staff are going to in terms of contacting kids and parents with issues at the end of the last term was very telling, and they can simply can’t help in the way the normally do when seeing the kids every day.
Once they are prised from the xbox pale and pasty in September it will be a shock to get back to formal learning. Concerned parent here.
Maybe a concerned parent could take action with regards to the pale and pasty Xbox scenario 😉
Enough of the teacher chat, lets not derail this thread, it's my main source of reasoned information thanks to TiRed and a few others.
Bugger off with the trolling.
Thanks @TiRed. I was wondering if you had an opinion on whether they were reputable (not specifically whether you agreed, you’ve been pretty clear about accuracy all along).
(Not expecting an answer tonight, understand if you’d rather not comment)
Enough of the teacher chat, lets not derail this thread
Yeah, +1
You should have heard the bellendry that went on about dogs earlier.
You should have heard the bellendry that went on about dogs earlier.
True, we need to get back to the temporary morgue chat, that was ace... 🤪
Spent much time in the private sector?
Yup, both as an employee (everything from cleaner to management) and businessman.
Why worry about exams? In France Madame's students are just being handed their Brevet or Baccalaureat based on the first two terms course work and marks. A simple solution that won't be so very different from what the exam results would have been based of years of experience. Pragamatism rules.
True, we need to get back to the temporary morgue chat, that was ace… 🤪
Riveting it was. 6 containers. 40 bodies a container. Here’s a pic (TAKEN WHILE I WAS OUT FOR MY RUN!!)
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You should have heard the bellendry that went on about dogs earlier.
Anyone would think it had been a slow news day. Dogs were an inoffensive diversion.
Teachers, I'm going to go radical, it's better to be able to have them so they can back to teaching when the time comes rather than treat them expendable child care. Some might see children being set back others might observe the playing field has been levelled. Life can just knock you like that.
Bit late to this recent party. Last few pages have taken a strange turn. The head at our sons school (he’s six) has been great and in my opinion very sensible. Basically told parents to just spend time with their kids and not to worry too much about the educating side of things. Strange times for young ones, so just chill and be there for them. I Knew there was a reason I liked her.
We’ve been doing bits of spelling, writing, maths, drawing and reading. If I try and teach my son he’ll be ****ed for life. His teacher is also being great and setting a few occasional little tasks etc. Again he’s reiterated the fact that the kids won’t turn in to idiots within the space of a couple of months.
Teachers are ace, so stop trolling them you bastards.
@DD: as a LGO I was actually having temporary morgue chat on Sunday with an erstwhile colleague (I’ve a couple of tips for norf landan ifn yer interested...).
The official nomenclature is units (not bodies) pffaa bleedin amateur... 🤪
ETA: where did they get the 3ph supply from might I ask?
The head at our sons school (he’s six)
Jeebus! That must have been some fast promotion!
I’ve a couple of tips for norf landan ifn yer interested…
Not a formal burial then?
@scotroutes no formal burials at the moment, there are no big road building projects on near London at the moment, although maybe crossrail foundations might take a few
FINAL predictions are VERY sensitive to model assumptions during the ascending part of the curve. That has to be factored into ANY future prediction. It is still rather early for the UK, slightly early for Spain, although I can call Italy. My model uses forward information to inform on the UK trends.
I have just this evening added a final prediction statistic to the plots. For Italy this number is likely to be robust:
Italy 33000 (29400 to 37400) deaths
http://covid19.healthdata.org/italy 20,300 (19,500 to 22,000) deaths
That's a substantial difference!
maybe crossrail foundations might take a few
We only need to worry there's a government gardening initiative with free patios
DD - that's just a normal day to day hospital? Sobering.
DD – that’s just a normal day to day hospital? Sobering.
No, it’s a temporary mortuary in the car park of the council depot next to our street. Buildings behind are the council offices.
@scotroutes - the Italy data looks a bit strange to me. There remains a very high degree of uncertainty so such a narrow range seems counter-intuitive. All models are wrong but some of them are very, very useful and that one looks a bit off.
I'm not aware of how good that institution is but the US figures look low too. Does anyone know if they're reliable?