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ED 3 week wait for delivery slots here in Hampshire
Go out when there’s nothing left to eat and you’ve failled to get delivered by every service available. And not before.
Hampshire is the worst effected county in england . Supermarkets are desperate for casual workers to help stock shelves, clean and sweep up the shops and deliver goods to houses
I dont think hardly any one in the county holds enough food for a 3 week wait for Tesco / Chavsda to get round to dropping off your frostys
Supermarkets are desperate for casual workers to help stock shelves, clean and sweep up the shops and deliver goods to houses
So perhaps they should be paying bankers' wages to young single people living alone and charging prices that enable them to do that. Let's face it, people have nothing else to spend their money on at present and most people can afford it. For those who can't afford high prices the government needs to deploy the army (young fit, single and cut off cut off from the rest of society) to deliver those too poor to pay the higher prices - a tax declaration would be justification enough.
Edit: if Lidl offered junior and his flat mate 1000e a day to man a checkout they'd take it on the simple condition they got masks, gloves and a plexiglass screen. But they'd be even happier if they got to drive around Berlin on deserted roads dropping off parcels to OAPs.
Skeg in 'full of Brexity carry on regardless tosspots' shocker:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/21/disaster-waiting-to-happen-visitors-flock-to-skegness
Full lockdown midweek as people cannot be trusted.
Same as always, just like the class at school where there were always two or three morons who got everyone a detention. And thought they were clever doing it.
We’d run out of food before the next home delivery slot.
Perhaps I should have panic bought and stockpiled after all....
People have been panic buying freezers to store frozen goods , hence the abilty to strip the supermarket shelves bare in a few hours
The Army are being deployed soon, TA are on recall locally and the barracks near to us are going into ' work ' mode . Probably be rear gunners on toilet roll delivery trucks , or as you say be put to proper use distributing goods to those in need
Problem is you risk passing round the virus at the same time unless protocols are followed
The initial panic buyers lead to a problem fuelled by the sensationalist wing of the media. People start buying more than they need because it might not be there due to the panic buying and many such as medical workers can’t be at the shops when the deliveries arrive.
I suspect the buying of freezers is the ‘I’m going to sell stuff at a large profit on eBay brigade’. I’ve seen several reports of vans stopped by police with hundreds/ thousands of big rolls in.
Paying big wages in times of need is a great idea.
Hard to spend it when your dead though isn't it.
The protocol isn't hard: an A4 paper stapled to the parcel:
"Put this parcel in an unoccupied room then wash your hands. Do not touch the parcel again for 24h after which you can safely use the contents".
I mentioned aseptic technique in labs a few pages back, perhaps there should be government information ads on TV running every 10 minutes on aseptic technique and protecting yourslef, on radio too, and perhaps even pop-ups on the Net, perhaps STW could be called in to advise 😉
To stop her going back? Is she that bad?
ha ha ha I always address her Mother’s Day card as “the Wicked Stepmother”
Hard to spend it when your dead though isn’t it.
Hence the need to protect workers by organising delivery. Knock door with a stick and run. Junior is 22, has a driving license, has a .2% risk of death and was confident enough about his resistance to disease to get on the last flight to Berlin. Give him 1000e a day and appropriate protective equipment, he's your man.
Edukator next week.
and charging prices that enable them to do that. Let’s face it, people have nothing else to spend their money on at present and most people can afford it
Escalating food prices is definitely not something we need right now! In a time when people are losing their jobs, having to take unpaid leave to look after dependants, there certainly are things to spend what little money they have on, namely housing, utilities and food, the same things they always had to spend their money on, not everyone has ‘spare’ money at the end of the month after all their bills are paid. Despite the governments help package there will still be an awful lot of people in severe financial difficulty right now and only getting worse as time goes on, lets not make it worse.
And ‘most’ people certainly can’t afford their food bill to go up a significant amount, maybe in middle class fantasy land where ‘most’ is most of your peers, but not most as in the general Population.
Stable supply and sensible buying is what’s needed, enforced if necessary (which it seems like it will be).
Although not wanting to bury my head in the sand, I'm leaving this thread now. Yes we all have issues to recognise and need to help each other but its tone is far too overwhelmingly negative for me. I need to focus on being positive for my family.
Good luck all, stay sensible.
Apparently the Tescos boss got £4.9 million in 2017. Pay a monthly coronavirus bonus to all frontline staff with 100% attendance of £1000 to 100 000 employees (out of 450 000 total) and you have a cost of 100 million or about 7% of turnover. Increase the cost of all goods by 7% to compensate.
Use deliveries and you have less frontline staff to pay the bonus to.
Edit: Perhaps another education theme on TV needs to be education slots on hos to eat well and cheaply, my entirely judgemental view of what I saw Brimingham's poorest putting through the checkout says that they could eat a whole lot better whilst spending significant less.
Yep people posting pictures of empty shelves on FB, really got the ball rolling for panic buying.
Not sure you can buy enough food for 3 months lockdown.(but some people seem to have tried!)
I really like pot noodle but a week solid of em would be grim.
Actually before I go I'm going to re-post this :
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
Its more positive reading than the collective doom mongering of a few individuals in here.
Collective doom-mongering, where's that?
There are a dozen people on here posting up useful stuff you can act on (and you're making absolutely the right personal choices, Kryton, in going into confinement with Madame Kryton and the Kryton kids) and rubbishing the dangerous advice from the likes of a southern sailor.
Much more good than bad on STW.
This is an interesting take on panic buying. As I am not working away that's 4 breakfasts and lunches, and 3 dinners I am not eating in a hotel or restaurant.
https://twitter.com/Greg_Callus/status/1241507154030473216
I need some facts to get some perspective. Awake since 4 having morbid thoughts about my parents (82 and 78) and how a couple of weeks ago I was going to get them to show me where the funeral plans, wills and computer passwords were kept for a joke. Not feeling as funny now.
No we must be imagining the empty shelves it’s clearly not happened.
The Big picture numbers have never looked that bad tbh but it’s all about you or a family member being in the pile of dead and wilfully wandering around infecting people because you can’t be assed to stay out of spoons seems a tad selfish.
Front line workers won’t be having a ‘fun time’either.
A bit of doom mongering if it’s doing collective good isn’t A bad thing.
No we must be imagining the empty shelves it’s clearly not happened
Did you read the the whole thing or are you just going for the contrary view? I'm not sure.
Yes I read the whole thing.
My last job we suppplied Tesco, Ok bottles of beer but still a FMCG .Its all very fast turnaround. Order Monday for a Wednesday delivery in to Reading RDC . which is open 24/7 364 days a year. Its Vast , like 12 football pitches with hundreds of Artic trucks delivering and collceting product The shops get multiple deliveries a day and the stock pretty much is either shelved or stored out on the shop floor. There isnt a huge amount of stock waiting anywhere, except the manufaturers who have to guess what Tesco want and therefore carry stock as there are fines for missing deliveries and a points deduction system whereby contracts are evaluated on performance
My box of ice cream might be no good if I have left it untouched for 24hrs on my doorstep.
A wipe over with Chlorinated Caustic and I am good to go , but then I have access to PAA and NAOH at work, and have done sterile beer filtration and have spent my whole life killing bugs
Used to do sterile filtration into inerted SS tanks flushed with FF Nitrogen via a .2microm filter , integrity checked with steam purge downstream. Then beer 3 stage filtered down to .45micrmon via an absolute membrane cartridge filter, again integrity checked and steamed
My box of ice cream might be no good if I have left it untouched for 24hrs on my doorstep.
Well order yoghurt or cheese instead and no-one has suggested leaving it on your doorstep. UHT milk might be a better idea if you realy feel the need for a milk product. Adapt.
We've got a Leclerc Drive order programmed for when we run out and we've secifically avoided things that won't survive hanging around. The fresh fish industry in France has stopped dead, boats in port, no buyers.
I don't know whether to keep posting facts now as they are indeed harbringing of doom. The north of Italy is now registering a 9% mortality rate in detected cases. London is on almost exactly the same mortality curve per time period and is both way more dense in population and with way less clamp down on people's movements. We are all probably going through different coping measures at the current time and turning off the news isn't a terrible idea for periods as long as you're following best advice. My only aim here is to get people to take this more seriously than they could have imagined a few weeks ago so we can try and at least partly mitigate the deaths of our loved ones. Keep your chin up everyone.
If we follow Italy, how long before a total lockdown?
Those of you who are off work how much have you reduced your contact? My thoughts are that if you give someone a day off in this country they instantly head to Ikea or a shopping centre.
Those of you that are taking all the precautions is all your good work undone as soon as you step inside a supermarket and are exposed to those people who headed to Ikea?
Not sure of the provenance or veracity of this shot.
I'm sure in the interests of accuracy he'll be calling 'Spanish Flu' American Flu, to remind us of its origin. Gonna be confusing though, as he'll also have to refer to 'Swine Flu' as American Flu.
Edit: the Leclerc Drive pre-programmed order has failed at the first hurdle, they're not taking orders for things not in stock now even if there's a good chance they'll be in stock in the future (banaba boats are still on their way form the Caribean and local market gardeners are still growing). We'll see how it goes but I'm not doing anything while there's still stuff to eat in the house.
The herd immunity thing was always insane, 80% of the herd with a 1-4% fatality rate means 1/2 million to 2.5 million deaths
I still can't get my head round the fact that this seemed to be government policy for a few weeks
https://twitter.com/Okwonga/status/1241650850688372737?s=19
Yeah there seems to be a few places like that Zilog.
Local to me. The mind boggles. Massive crowds up Snowdon too apparently! What is the solution except Police/army enforced lockdown? Crazy.
Looks photoshopped to me, Whitestone, no cmaera has a depth of field that limited in those light conditions. "Chinese" is too clear and bold compared to the rest of the document.
Pleas stop with fake news. If you’re not sure if it’s true don’t post.
Looking on bbc website yesterday and most references to no of deaths seemed to split UK by country. An attempt to disguise the total?
good article on how to keep kids occupied, how to broach isolation with them, etc.
Particularly teenagers who feel indestructable at this age, something to do with the brain development that means they can't assimilate long term risks.
Looking on bbc website yesterday and most references to no of deaths seemed to split UK by country. An attempt to disguise the total?
Or the article you read was about how it is effecting different counties.
Full times article is here
Paywall but you can sign up & get some free articles
Good & scary reading
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000gj5f/our-world-wuhan-life-under-lockdown
Incredible. And we can't even organise toilet paper.
So perhaps they should be paying bankers’ wages to young single people living alone and charging prices that enable them to do that. Let’s face it, people have nothing else to spend their money on at present and most people can afford it. For those who can’t afford high prices the government needs to deploy the army (young fit, single and cut off cut off from the rest of society) to deliver those too poor to pay the higher prices – a tax declaration would be justification enough.
Apparently the Tescos boss got £4.9 million in 2017. Pay a monthly coronavirus bonus to all frontline staff with 100% attendance of £1000 to 100 000 employees (out of 450 000 total) and you have a cost of 100 million or about 7% of turnover. Increase the cost of all goods by 7% to compensate.
Great idea except not everyone works for a supermarket. Not everyone can afford an increase in price. Your plan is utter guff and frankly if you put such an idea in motion you would have riots or looting and far bigger problems to deal with.
And I wouldn't fancy eating anything from a box of refrigerated or frozen food 24 hours after it was put in some random room, would you?
Oh I see now you're suggesting people avoid those sorts of products. Great idea barring the fact frozen keeps longer so would last longer between deliveries.
I mean, I see your logic, somewhere, it's just not practical. Far easier to just restrict numbers inside supermarkets and enforce segregation. Better use of TA too.
Can anyone answer my questions above?
Pay a monthly coronavirus bonus to all frontline staff with 100% attendance of £1000 to 100 000 employees (out of 450 000 total)
Great so everyone stops self isolating when they get symptoms.
Also re the splitting of the countries to hide totals....ironically I spent about 20 minutes looking for the split totals I could only find the over all total on the beeb so I don't think that's a thing
Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore, which had their first confirmed cases before Europe, but acted early and fast, still have deaths in single digits and, at most, a few hundred cases.
Taiwan, helped perhaps by having an epidemiologist as vice-president, started tracing passengers from Wuhan as soon as China warned of a new type of pneumonia in the city last December, before Covid-19 was identified. Social distancing, ramped-up testing and contact-tracing followed soon after.
Most western countries did little, apart from developing a modest testing capacity – apparently gambling on the disease being contained elsewhere, as previous threatened epidemics, including Sars in 2002-03 and more recently Ebola and Mers, had been.
Yeah but we have the best possible science.
Hahah