Where France leads ...
 

[Closed] Where France leads (health service content)...

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...will the UK follow?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53398208
C'mon then johnson & hancock, show us you value the NHS; you know, real monetary reward.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 11:19 pm
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Nah - NHS staff should be happy with a clap and a maybe a badge...


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 11:21 pm
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Genuine question - would NHS workers want that pay rise, or prefer it to be spent on better resourcing, equipment, PPE...


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 11:28 pm
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MCTD - if johnson, hancock & co were serious about the NHS they would do all of it.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 11:44 pm
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C’mon then johnson & hancock, show us you value the NHS

Even though we say that in half-jest, the truth of the matter (hobbling/dismantling/eventual selloff of the NHS) is truly heartbreaking. To the eternal shame of this country.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:13 am
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would NHS workers want that pay rise, or prefer it to be spent on better resourcing, equipment, PPE…

They could do both.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:20 am
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This ^^^^

Anyone who clapped the NHS but votes Tory needs to have a serious word with themselves.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:24 am
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History has shown us that you can never, ever trust a Tory government with the NHS.

Even Labour have been questionable at times but with the Conservatives it's a given.

Vote Tory, *&@# the NHS. Simples.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:26 am
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History has shown us that you can never, ever trust a Tory government with the NHS

FTFY


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 10:11 am
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Salaries for healthcare workers according to https://www.qunomedical.com/en/research/healthcare-salary-index/

UK:
GP: £127,813
Nurse: £39,967

France:
GP: £113,592
Nurse: £33,361

If you look at the PPP (purchasing power parity) figures the differences are much bigger because the cost of living in France is higher.
So these latest pay increases in France won't even get close to the French healthcare workers catching up with what their UK counterparts are paid.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 10:32 am
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Nurse on £39,967 😂

No that’s a specialist nurse with a considerable amount of experience

Here use an actual job.

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/vacancy/916103857


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 10:35 am
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My wife has been a nurse for 15 years, and is nowhere near 40 grand, don't get me wrong, she's not badly paid, but not that much. I'd imagine that's an upper band Advanced Nurse practitioners salary.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 11:09 am
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Nurse on £39,967 😂

No that’s a specialist nurse with a considerable amount of experience

In Wales at least to earn that much you'd need to be at least a Band 7. If you're not familiar Band 7 nurses are Ward / Unit heads who'll manage a large team of 'Normal' Nurses or a smaller team of Specialists. Most will have had to have taken a Masters Degree whilst working and will usually have at least a decade of experience, usually more.

Mrs. Jay is a Specialist Nurse even when she reaches the top of Band 6 in Sept can't be paid that much under current salaries. She should reach £37k in April. I'll admit to probably being a bit proud of her, the effort she puts in out and in work and the stuff she can do it amazes me sometimes. My job is comparatively piss-easy, I mean for heavens shake we play GTA in work sometimes, guess which one of us earns more? It's not even close.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 11:13 am
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These are the bands and years experience:

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/working-nhs/nhs-pay-and-benefits/agenda-change-pay-rates

I have an interest as I'm changing career, not that money is the factor, I work in IT and hate it!


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 11:22 am
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It shouldn’t be a choice between PPE and pay. Hospital staff should be appropriately equipped and staffed. Now they have neither. Therefore it is understandable they are asking for financial compensation.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 1:24 pm