We are looking at getting our bathroom tiled. Its very small and 18sqm includes the floor. It has one window and one door to contend with. We are being quoted £20 per sqm which equates to £360 to tile it.
Now i am all for someone earning a crust and all that and if i find a tradesman who does a good job, they tend to get a lot of work from me and the family (Joiner and carpet fitter must have earn £kk over the last 10yrs) so i am loyal. I figured it was 1-2days work which i was thinking £200-250.
Am i being tight?
Depending on where you live, of course, I would say, yes, you're being tight. Tiling's a skilled job.
Is this labour only? Labour + all materials inc. tiles? Labour + basic materials (waterproof grout etc)?
[i]Am i being tight?
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Yes!
£250 for two days work is **** all.
Good point, is he supplying adhesive and grout for that money?
£250 for two days work is **** all.
That's my day-rate for the rough end of town 😛
Pay *cough*ash...
I paid £150 per day* for a top quality tiler to do some work recently, he cut amazingly neatly round some very tricky curves and fittings, not an easy job, but I think it was worth paying the extra in the end.
I guess it depends on how tricky a job it is?
The lowest quote I had was for a £100 per day, all the decent local tilers were very busy though, they had loads of work on apparently.
(*Labour only)
knock off tax, national insurance, employers and public liability, advertising, office costs, tools and consumables. would you want the job for what's left out of £250?
he cut amazingly neatly round some very tricky curves and fittings, not an easy job, but I think it was worth paying the extra in the end
The devil's always in the detail in these jobs - that's what you're [i]really[/i] paying for.
£20/SQ.M.
My mate charges £30.00 per square meter, you supply the tiles and he supplies the adhesive and grout
Yup, good price that.
£20 sq/m is cheap
£25 average
£30 for a top quality job.
I tend to charge about 25-30 inc adhesive and grout, 30-35 for natural stone and porcalain etc.
If you can get a look at his previous work, do so. Will be average at best for 20 a metre.
I'm in manchester area if you'd like a quote. Would be end of the month though.
I do complete bathrooms too. Basic full job comes is around a grand, inc prep, tanking, suite, tiles and labour. Just recently done an ensuite that cost £5500!
Do it yourself!
We are quite surprised at how things are mounting up tbh.
Oh the £20sqm is for labour and grout
Basic everything and we are at neck end of £2k for a small 2m x 2m bathroom. Thats bath suite, shower and tiling. Hell i will even remove tiles and old suite before they lift a finger.
I was expecting it to be less to be truthfull.
Thefunkymonkey - Sorry, what does tanking mean??
We need
Bath suite replaced
Tiles to all walls and ceiling
Shower replaced
As stated i will knock the old stuff out and remove
Beige tiles (Big Uns) floor and ceiling
Would love to give the money to a biker if possible and absolutely not bothered about when its done.
You must be from Yorkshire you tight git.
Tiler I use charges £40m sq but supplies adhesive & grout.
bathrooms are usually fairly expensive to do, as there can be a lot of labour on the job, with having to make several visits, one to strip out, one to 1st fix, then the tiler comes in, then second fix etc.
If you are SE based can give you some ideas / price. You could do alot of it yourself if you want.
How often do threads like this come up where the poster obviously begrudges someone making a decent living? £125 per day gross is not a massive amount taking into account stuff mentioned above. I appreciate that it may be coming in a little more expensive than anticipated. If that's the case why not DIY? Takes longer than a professional job but you will save money.
Tiles to ceiling?
Where are you hobo?
Tanking is just a waterproof coating I always apply to the walls around the bath and shower. Not essential if it's render, but very much so if it's plasterboard. Goes on first, then tile adhesive and tiles. I always use powdered adhesives too, not the tubbed stuff. Adhesive and grout are water resistant, not waterproof. Most people don't realise that!
Price all depends on what spec fixtures and fittings etc. A good quality bathroom can be done for around 1400 easy for the size you say. It's quite a small one really. Basic one could be done for 1000 no probs. I'd usually take about 5-7 days to one depending if it needs reboarding or not. I usually advise re doing the plasterboards though
Had my shower cubicle re-tiled recently. Had it all lined with Wedi board/Aqua board which is synthetic waterproof stuff first.
Unfortunately the builders had originally tiled onto marine ply!! On another bit of the shower they tiled onto plastered render.
This time I hade a proper bathroom specialist in and got him to rip out the old stuff and put the wedi board in under the new tiles. Its all now totally waterproof!
the poster obviously begrudges someone making a decent living?
That's not necessarily fair. If you don't have a good understanding of how self-employed people earn their crust it can seem expensive. Then, as above, you factor in all the costs and deductions and it seems reasonable. Mind you, there are lots of people who won't accept that someone with manual skills should earn an above average wage. Not applying that to the poster of course.
I personally wouldn't have work like that on a day rate, it's asking to be ripped off. I charge for the job, not by the hour. I've seen people take over a week for that sized area, I'd be done in approx 2 days. The skill in tiling means you can be quicker but still good quality.
I charge £30pm2 for ceramic on plaster or cement subsrates for wall and floor tiling inc adhesive, grout and trims.
Timber floor is £50 per m2 inc. flexible membrane if needed and adhesive/grout
Porcalain, Glass, natural stone, mosaic add £10 pm2.
I have 15 years experience and I'm booked until March so I guess pricing can't be that far out. Ask for recomendations, as mentioned above for £20 all inc I'd be dubious.
Common mistake tiling onto marine ply. WBP is fine for floors, I wouldn't do a wall with it personally, but the coating in marine ply prevents proper adhesion of the tiles. Tiling onto render is also perfectly ok if you correctly prime where required and in all cases use the correct adhesive for the background/tile combination.
Wedi is good stuff and very useful for certain jobs like curves etc, however standard plasterboard is perfectly fine when tanked properly and a fraction of the cost too.
Moisture resistant plasterboards are garbage too, as are those aquapanel type boards. They are resistant, but NOT water proof. Meaning you get wet studs behind!
Horay, sounds like someone else knows what they're talking about.
There's so many cowboys out there at the moment due to the lack of work, people seem to be lending their hand to anything that will make them a buck. It's a real problem around here as I've been to do quotes where they've had someone else in who's quoted £15pm2. it's not even worth me starting the van for than after all the expenses.
The aqua board is made of plastic foam like wedi. That has been coated with waterproof cement which the mosaics have then been fixed to, also with wateproof cement. I think one of the big problems using plywood is that it moves at a different rate to other materials so you get cracks between it and plastered walls shower tray etc. I hope wedi board is ok! my shower tray is made of that! Hopefully this will work...it cost lots!