Somebody's just asked that on QT!
Sounds like a fair question. I often ask it myself.
Get drunk on water.
Probably whittle at a stick
Jesus would have cleared the protesters away, according to Farage.
Probably not be based in a huge baroque cathedral
what would Jesus do?
your ma
Troll?
Dallas?
Probably not be based in a huge baroque cathedral
And probably not be charging £14 a head to get in to said cathedral...
Support?
You do realise you're not the only one watching QT when stealing your lines, dj?
It's fourteen pounds fifty, which does seem a little steep considering most big museums and galleries and stuffs are free in London, but apparently if you Gift Aid your admission, then you can get 12 months free entry, which sounds very reasonable actually.
And you'd get to see wonderfulness like this:
bang a hooker and turn all the water into wine?
You do realise you're not the only one watching QT when stealing your lines, dj?
Not Guilty - I've been out at work all evening and didn't get in until nearly 1.00am. It's a pretty obvious observation, given his previous for going radge in the Temple at Jerusalem.
I will give this till 10am before it has become the usual anti-Christian rant. Just now I will admire the pics Elfin put up. £14.50 is a bit steep mind, but I suppose its them London prices. I mean say the roof is leaky,got to pay London rates to get Ernie in to fix it. In answer to the original post,Jesus was anti-capitalist,so would have approved of the protest. However since he was the son of a joiner, he would never have been accepted by the trustafarians/gap decade protestors.
I prefer
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£14.50 is taking the Piss and indicates just how out of touch the church is.
Effin seems like Jesus is trying to piss down my back, and trying to tell me
its raining with those prices.
It's not even a church, it's a house of heathens. Jesus would tip the tables over and shout at them for charging 14 and a half quid.
Is the 14.50 not if you want to use it as a visitor attraction but it is actually free if you want to go and use it as a place of worship during one of the services?
if you want to use it as a visitor attraction
Hello Its Not the CHESSINGTON WORLD OF WORSHIP !
£14.50 is taking the Piss and indicates just how out of touch the church is.
It keeps the riff raff out and shows excellent business acumen.
Although as GlitterGary hints, it is indeed a place of gathering for protestant heretics who are in open rebellion against the authority of Rome.
So Jesus definitely wouldn't approve.
It may be free to worship, but God isn't listening to them and they aren't going to heaven anyway.
GlitterGary - Member
It may be free to worship, but God isn't listening to them and they aren't going to heaven anyway.
duckman - Member
I will give this till 10am before it has become the usual anti-Christian rant.
Good guess duckman, think you may be right unfortunately.
It keeps the riff raff out and shows excellent business acumen.
LOL A church is meant to be a peoples place where class and wealth does not exist
and everyones of equal
And no doubt many riff raff's lives where lost under the cross of Jesus here and in Europe
to steel to build it!
Leffeboy - They aren't even Christians! I despair...
ernie_lynch - Member£14.50 is taking the Piss and indicates just how out of touch the church is.
It keeps the riff raff out and shows excellent business acumen.
Although as GlitterGary hints, it is indeed a place of gathering for protestant heretics who are in open rebellion against the authority of Rome.
So Jesus definitely wouldn't approve.
BUT...The Church of Rome persecuted Jesus's own race for crucifying him, so would he side with the Catholics in a Prod/Catholic swedge?
grantway - MemberAnd no doubt many riff raff's lives where lost under the cross of Jesus here and in Europe
to steel to build it!
It was paid for by the crown and public subscription, but don't let that get in the way of your badly formed post.
Prey?
^ upon whom?
£14.50 for a years camping in central london....
Seems a bit cheap, last time he betrayed the Lord it was for 30 pieces of silver... and that was when silver was really worth something.
The church says "We support fight against excessive capitalist greed so you can camp on our lawn." Someone (Goverment, Boris or someone like that) doesn't like this so has the toilets removed and starts shouting health a safety. This forces the church to shut their doors. This is aledgedly costing the church £20,000 per day. "Oh, we'll have to get these scum off our lawn."
So the church is ultimately as greedy as the bankers that the protest is about.
Shame that the Cannon had to resign for standing up for what the church is supposed to support.
Apparently, he would have clamped down on peaceful protesters because all the people on the exec board/top table are bankers.
In the same way that if he was high up in the US Republican party who claim to be so close to god, he would kill or let others die in order to progress his own wealth.
Or not.
St Paul's legal advice said that if they negotiated with the protesters to sort out access etc it would give them a legal right to stay.
Giles Fraser said:
"I would want to have negotiated down the size of the camp and appeal to those there to help us keep the cathedral going, and if that meant that I was thereby granting them some legal right to stay then that is the position I would have had to wear ... I believe that we embarked upon a course of action that would lead to a place where I didn't want to go."
and my favourite quote of his:
"St Paul was a tentmaker. If you looked around and you tried to recreate where Jesus would be born – for me, I could imagine Jesus being born in the camp,"
I like him.
duckman - Member
I will give this till 10am before it has become the usual anti-Christian rant...However since he was the son of a joiner, he would never have been accepted by the trustafarians/gap decade protestors.
Brilliant. Complain about one type of prejudice while voicing your own ill informed one. Congrats.
However since he was the son of a joiner,
Unlikely. The whole "carpenter" thing is a translation error, apparently. Used euphemistically for "wise person".
Actually lifer I am making an obsevation based on the way these threads normally go; not complaining. Bearing in mind the normal flavour of your posts,you may find it difficult to understand there is a difference between the two. So inform me, who are the protestors who can give up their time to camp outside a church for a few weeks?
Unlikely. The whole "carpenter" thing is a translation error, apparently. Used euphemistically for "wise person".
Is that why Clerk of Works are almost always ex-joiners?
The whole "carpenter" thing is a translation error, apparently. Used euphemistically for "wise person".
euphemistically or sarcastically?
What kind of wise person takes his pregnant wife on hols during festival time without booking a hotel before he sets off?
S
hame that the Cannon had to resign for standing up for what the church is supposed to support.
The Canon didn't have to resign. But if he hadn't, they'd have fired him.
Jesus would in this day and age have to have adapted tot he modern age, he'd be holding sermons explaining how he was composed from particles subject to electromagnetism and that his father was the biggest magnet and y'all were little magnets and if you didn't all do the right thing the other bad magnet would get you and you and Gary Gilter would spend eternity together..
Sure Jesus would be around, he's everywhere right? What would he do.. wellllll..... methinkie he'd be doin' this..
He'd be somewhere on his 29erSS hammering the hills as we speak, with his long flowing (greying) hair and beard being buffeted by the wind, his robes covered in mud flapping in the breeze, wearing a cheesy smile, a splattered fly neatly squished on his forehead, whilst wearing a pair of "World Champ Replica" Oakley Jawbones and a pair of worn out SPUDs.He'd be sporting a pair of lycra bibs under his robes mind to avoid chafe, though last time I saw him he wasn't wearing baggies over the top..
Does this make him a "Stylee Icon" I wonder, or some fashionista Faux "Phah"
Jesus rides 29erSS's.
All Hail Purity.
Bikebouy, we have established already on this thread that Jesus was a wise man, so 29er yup....SS...No way!
Heresy! Jesus would never ride SPD's..
So inform me, who are the protestors who can give up their time to camp outside a church for a few weeks?
I don't know who they all are, I haven't done a census. But having chatted to a few some work during the day and are there in the evening, some are using up holiday, some are students, some are unemployed and some are retired.
But I can see how lazy stereotypes are attractive, it makes things much simpler.
Hearsay! He does..
Jesus rode an ass..
So he would ride the biking equivalent, some sort of single speed on one.
He'd be somewhere on his 29erSS hammering the hills as we speak, with his long flowing (greying) hair and beard being buffeted by the wind, his robes covered in mud flapping in the breeze, wearing a cheesy smile, a splattered fly neatly squished on his forehead, whilst wearing a pair of "World Champ Replica" Oakley Jawbones and a pair of worn out SPUDs.He'd be sporting a pair of lycra bibs under his robes mind to avoid chafe, though last time I saw him he wasn't wearing baggies over the top..
Haven't you almost described Ed Oxley? 😯
Jesus would never ride SPD's..
Might explain why he moved in a mysterious way.
Might explain why he moved in a mysterious way.
That's Bono, silly.
So inform me, who are the protestors who can give up their time to camp outside a church for a few weeks?
You. Me. There's a way. If more people did it, your mortgage would be the least of your creditor's worries.
I really enjoyed the media's use of a thermal imaging camera "some of these tents have no people in them!" as if it somehow detracts from what they’re trying to achieve.
Haven't you almost described Ed Oxley?
Like Ed, Jesus would be on flats.
I really enjoyed the media's use of a thermal imaging camera "some of these tents have no people in them!" as if it somehow detracts from what they’re trying to achieve.
When you see who the source was for the '90% empty' claim it all becomes clear:
Well, there is one other constant between the Times and Telegraph stories, and that is the presence of [b]Matthew Richardson, a councillor in the Corporation of London[/b]. And sure enough, he provides the money quote:Thermal imaging has shown that most of those tents are empty — about 90 per cent. It just shows that the majority of people don’t have the conviction to stay here. They are here to cause trouble, and leaving a tent here is a way to do that.
And
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/26/occupy-london-tents-rubbish-science ]Occupy London empty tent claim based on rubbish science[/url]
But I can see how lazy stereotypes are attractive, it makes things much simpler.
Or based on my observations of demo's I have been to. However, maybe I haven't been going to the "right" protests, (you know, boring stuff about the Iraq war, Poll tax,job cuts) As an aside, most of the people trying to start fights at these,especially recently, have seemed to be professional protesters. Except at the poll tax one, that was everybody v Strathclyde Police. Of course,that is just me employing a lazy stereotype,isn't it?
The crowd outside the Church would probably known as the Peoples front of Judea in Jesus's time.
Occupy London empty tent claim based on rubbish science
What can we do to stop the media perpetuating lies? Seriously? (I appreciate that the source of the counterclaim is media, but still)
duckman - MemberBut I can see how lazy stereotypes are attractive, it makes things much simpler.
Or based on my observations of demo's I have been to. However, maybe I haven't been going to the "right" protests, (you know, boring stuff about the Iraq war, Poll tax,job cuts) As an aside, most of the people trying to start fights at these,especially recently, have seemed to be professional protesters. Except at the poll tax one, that was everybody v Strathclyde Police. Of course,that is just me employing a lazy stereotype,isn't it?
What have other protests got to do with it? This is quite different.
What have other protests got to do with it? This is quite different.
Ah, I see,well if you say so then.
Or based on my observations of demo's I have been to.
Of course,that is just me employing a lazy stereotype,isn't it?
Steroetype - an image or idea of a particular type of person or thing that has become fixed fixed through being widely held.
Well it may not fit the strict definition of a stereotype as you are basing it on prior experience, but it's certainly prejudiced which, and please correct me if I'm wrong, isn't generally considered to be a particularly Christian trait.
How many days was the Iraq protest? Poll Tax?
certainly prejudiced which, and please correct me if I'm wrong, isn't generally considered to be a particularly Christian trait
Female bishops? Gay clergy? You're right, the Christian churches have no truck with prejudice.
Do you mean Anglican Churches Nick?
bikebouy - Member
I'm sorry but Jesus would be wearing these.. Proven.
OMG! he probably would to...
who else would, oh dear oh dear, how very STW they are, very elfin safety ...:lol:
The crowd outside the Church would probably known as the Peoples front of Judea in Jesus's time.
F...O..
They're the Judean People's Front - splitters
turn water into funk?
Lifer - Member
How many days was the Iraq protest? Poll Tax?
I see... so different protests attract different protestors...Why did you not just say that in the first place?
Gonefishing; have you been drinking?
BUT...The Church of Rome persecuted Jesus's own race for crucifying him, so would he side with the Catholics in a Prod/Catholic swedge?
😕 Of course Jesus was a Catholic.
Look mate, I didn't make the rules..........Jesus said to Simon : [i]"You are Peter, and upon this rock I shall build my Church"[/i]. OK it's lost a bit translation because "Peter" means stone, but he was very clearly making Peter the first pope of the One True Universal Catholic Church. You can't really argue with that.
^ That may make sense to you but calling someone a name other than their actual name is bound to cause confusion.
Anyway didn't that mark the begining of The Apostolic Church from which Catholicism and every other Christian sect nicked some ideas and tailored them to suit their own needs?
scuzz - MemberWhat can we do to stop the media perpetuating lies? Seriously?
Widespread use of these:
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But it's a nice example isn't it... Now a huge number of people believe the 90% lie, even though by watching the video you could see the camera failing (when people walk behind tents, they vanish from the camera). They've changed the story now, and perhaps there'll be a retraction on page 16 in a month's time but nobody will care. Lies round the world, truth tying shoelaces, etc.
There's a suggestion that retractions should have to be given the exact prominence of the original lie. I like that plan.
he was very clearly making Peter the first pope of the One True Universal Catholic Church. You can't really argue with that.
If he was doing that as [b]clearly[/b] as you make out he'd have said "I'm making you the first pope of the One True Universal Catholic Church. I'll explain what a pope is later, same for catholic church." It suited people to give that meaning to those words allegedly spoken by some bloke.
matthew 21:12
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
If he was doing that as clearly as you make out he'd have said "I'm making you the first pope of the One True Universal Catholic Church. I'll explain what a pope is later, same for catholic church." It suited people to give that meaning to those words allegedly spoken by some bloke.
Listen mate, JC assumed he wasn't talking to idiots, or that he needed to spell it out for them.
He also said "love thy neighbour as thyself", but that doesn't mean you ought to shag her at number 22. Jesus, sometimes I truly despair.
And just for the record, if you look at The Creed as said by the Church of England, the Presbyterian Church, the Lutheran Church, and the United Methodist Church, they all say that they believe in "the holy catholic church"
[url= http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:t8TPu_FQ0EMJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed+%22Apostles%27+Creed%22+%22the+holy+catholic+church%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk ]The Creed[/url]
There's only one Catholic Church, and that's where the party's at. Everyone else is probably going to Hell. Although it's never too late to repent, I might add.






