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Get your middle class heads and preconceived ideas out of your middle class asses!Well the original post said the job was for a Mechanical Engineer and contrary to what many people think an Engineer is a professional position and would mean a suit at an interview. The clarification post of
fabricator/welder
means that it's not a professional engineering role. Given the original post those recommending a suit were correct.
I agree with this. Shows what's wrong with the UK where 'engineer' can mean such a wide range of skills/knowledge.
Get your middle class heads and preconceived ideas out of your middle class asses!
Nothing middle class about a suit ffs!
Shows what's wrong with the UK where 'engineer' can mean such a wide range of skills/knowledge.
Lol, what utter tripe!
Shows what's wrong with the UK where 'engineer' can mean such a wide range of skills/knowledge
Bull Shyte!!
Wasn't a reference to the suit. ๐
It was a reference to this.
Shows what's wrong with the UK where 'engineer' can mean such a wide range of skills/knowledge
Shows what's wrong with the UK where 'engineer' can mean such a wide range of skills/knowledgeBull Shyte!!
Care to explain?
I class my self as a engineer. I am a skilled metal worker, carpenter and fibre glass constructor. Im In the Corps of the Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers.
I see a problem and overcome it using my range of skills. I work from technical drawings and draw technical drawings.
I understand the workings of mechanical equipment and how to repair it.
i think i can class my self as a engineer/fabricator/welder/carpenter/fibre glass engineer ETC.
I understand the workings of mechanical equipment and how to repair it.i think i can class my self as a engineer/fabricator/welder/carpenter/fibre glass engineer ETC.
Whilst not wanting to denegrate your skills, and they certianly exceed mine in some areas, I think that the institute of mechanical engineers would disagree with you unless of course in addition to those skills you have a degree or have passed their exams.
Whilst the phrase "it shows what's wrong with the UK..." contains unnecessary hyperbole, it is true to say that were you not in the UK but somewhere like North America or most of Europe, you would not be able to call yourself and engineer and would face legal sanction if you did.
oneoneoneone,
As above, no one can deny that you are skilled. But that's not the same as what an 'engineer' is in many countries. Some could say that this means that 'bright' students don't go into 'engineering' and do something like banking instead. Whether that explains why, for example, we don't have a large car industry, and Germany does, I'll leave for other to argue about.
By the way, I'm not an engineer.
Shaun,
You will be fine with suit trousers, shirt, jumper, polished shoes and a shave.
We'll have the engineer discussion tomorrow ๐
Good luck dude.
LOL, see you tomorrow or are you about tonight for a beer??
Don't worry about all that 1111, go and enjoy the interview and good luck again, see what I mean about the middle classasses!
FWIW I was an engineer for a while, it said so on my business cards, it also said Ba(hons) and that was true, so I must have been an engineer too.
it is true to say that were you not in the UK but somewhere like North America or most of Europe, you would not be able to call yourself and engineer and would face legal sanction if you did.
So? Engineer is simply a word and it is not understood in this country to carry any kind of meaning other than a vague one to do with technical things. So it gets used for lots of jobs.
Doesn't really imply any sort of de-valuing of skills, does it? Which is what I think you were getting at. If it DID represent a certain level of quality to most people and then people were allowed to go around using it despite not being of that quality, then that would be bad. But in this country we are good about such things in general.
In summary, Engineer is not a protected term (afaik).
Well that went smoothly!!
Very hopeful now have to wait a week whilst they interview 1 other person.
good luck, hopefully the other candidate will have asked for advice from mumsnet
Lets hope.
after having a look around there workshop it looks very much like a place i would love to work!!
suit everytime, shouldnt even be asking this question to be honest ๐
if I had worn a suit I think I would have been laughed at!! my attire was spot on IMHO.
Dear oneoneone,
Thanks for your time today. We really liked your skill set but you are too bone idle to bother putting on a suit even for one important day so that makes you scum in our eyes. Go and jump off a bridge.
Yours,
Not-so-potential employer.
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