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What is wrong with that?
Nothing. It's Human.
I knocked a cat over once. Felt awful. Went back to find it lying in the road. It was alive but not too well. Anyway,I picked it up (it didn't have a collar), and wandered to the nearest house. Knocked on the door, no answer. Cat was getting more animated. Wandered about a bit looking for someone - nothing. Cat was getting restless.
Went to put the cat down*. Cat clawed me up and down on the arms, ripped my shirt and ran off, perfectly well. The little bugger.
*on the floor, not finish it off.
you know, some of you lot can be absolute sh!tbags at times...
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This is one of those threads that should not be "intellectualised" but is just a howl of authentic human horror. [Walks on]
hey don't stop trying hector, if a cyclist got killed on that stretch of road this lot would be harping on about it being worse then the holocaust
This has to be one of the finest trolls the forum's ever seen...
What I cant believe is that even the most sensually impaired driver would not realise that they had hit something in the road. I find it even more incredulous that in that knowledge they would not stop and take appropriate action.
Have you ever squished a kitten in a car Hector? Trust me. You barely feel a thing. Even when you reverse back over it to make sure.
9/10... Could have done with more random capitals, some "!!!!!!" and spelling mistakes. Great first effort though.
deterred the purportrator
I hope this isn't a wind-up and you were trying to type purr-petrator?
Anyway, assuming you're for real - of course you deserve sympathy for your loss of course, but try to see it as an horrific (for your family) accident rather than a callous hit-and-run.
As somebody pointed out, the driver may not have realised what happened - and even if he/she did it's unlikely they could have done anything to prevent it.
so you had a beloved part of your family that you knowingly let go out onto the road where it's predecessor was also splattered? Where is your compassion?
Sorry for your loss, we are great cat lovers, but over the years one or two of our cats have been run over, the road is just a lot busier now...
We have a cat who was pulled back from near death as a farm kitten, mauled by dogs. He has turned out to be lovely cat, but we keep him in the house most of the time beause of the traffic...
A couple of years ago I set off on my commute and in the distance I saw a white shape on the road- unmistakable to me. It was a westie, like our own laying in the road. I pulled over, jumped out and felt around its collar for contact details- none but it was a lovely tartan collar 🙁
Sadly it looked like she was asleep except for her back end. The Vet wanted me to sling the dog in the boot and bring her in. I didnt fancy a dog in the boot under any circumstances (our dog would smell it for a start) but I felt sad that the owner will never know what happened to their pet. Hey ho.
My Mum lives in Westbury and two years ago her ginger and white cat was run over. Teshi (don't ask) was a ten year ginger who was happiest when out and about. He was my little mate from 1997 until I left home in 2002. He was knocked down and although he survived he was in a bad way. The driver of the car brought him home to my mum and an hour later he was put to sleep. We couldn't have ago at the car driver, there was nothing he could've done. I bet it wasn't the first time Tesh had had a close shave with traffic. The kindest thing that driver did was bring him back home. There would've been nothing worse than not knowing what happened to him.
I guess as mutch as it hurts loosing a pet cat, it is something that is always possible.
markenduro - Memberso you had a beloved part of your family that you knowingly let go out onto the road where it's predecessor was also splattered? Where is your compassion?
Bet the poor family member wasn't taught the green cross code before being let out alone either.
Bad luck, I'm sorry for your loss but the letter is maybe a bit OTT for this particular forum, as others have mentioned the vast scale of human suffering barely gets a whimper but people's own tiny (to the rest of JoeP) tragedies are what get the 50+ post threads. Yeah I know forums are all about people's little everyday things but you can't expect everyone to sympathise. I think if you'd posted "my kitten got run over, no one stopped, gutted!" you'd have got more support.
Ah, the usual kind, sensitive response from Poindexter/AdamG, I see...
We once found a dead cat on the road near our house. We debated what to do with it, as we weren't sure. We tried a few houses but the thought of knocking on the door, opening a binbag and asking 'is this your cat?' was too much. So we went to the Vet nearby but they were closed. We contemplated leaving it on the doorstep but they might be afraid that someone was starting a vendetta against them. Fortunately someone came to the door in the end.
We spent a good hour trying to work it out, as we couldn't just leave it. I'd also have stopped to clear up your cat too if I'd passed it.
OTOH, we have a cat, and if I end up getting a job overseas we're taking it to my parents. I wouldn't do that with a family member.
Ignore some of the prats on here, I understand completely what you're saying, they may "just" be animals, but once they become a pet they do become part of the family, I'm not saying I would grieve more over the loss of one of my cats than I would my mother or father, but as they grow and develop their own personalities you can't hep but get attached to them.
I had a kitten that I lost the same way on one of the first nights she was let out to roam on her own at night, thankfully a very kind milkman brought her to me, all wrapped up, otherwise I would have been going out my head with worry, not knowing what had happened to her.
I bugged me because I knew although I lived in a residential area there were idiots who chose to drive around at over 50mph, that time it was “only” my cat, but it could have been someone’s kid stepping out between cars.
A few months later while driving down a fairly busy stretch of the A4, I noticed a little kitten that had unfortunately suffered the same fate and other drivers where happy to just squash it without a moments thought, I was even hooted at when I pulled over and walked back to pick the poor little thing, so I could take it to the vet in the hope it had been chipped and the owners could be informed.
Sadly we have to accept that there are far too many people who just don't care about the welfare of animals, or don't understand the affect they have on people's lives.
But my thoughts are with you, and I hope you were at least able to give her a decent send off.
*tink
PS - good luck with your campaigning
hey don't stop trying hector, if a cyclist got killed on that stretch of road this lot would be harping on about it being worse then the holocaust
isn't one an animal and the other a human being?
i found a stiff cat outside the business premises i ran, asked around the neighbours if it was theirs, no one claimed it so phoned the council and they said give it to the bin men, so i did, what else can you do, keep it in the fridge until someone knocks the door looking for it?
IMO vehicles should be limited to 10mph on all residential streets
I very much doubt the car driver even knew they'd hit it especially if it was small kitten
See what happens.....???
[url= http://www.wigantoday.net/wigannews/Driver-died-swerving-to-avoid.4521683.jp ]Woman dies swerving to avoid rat. [/url]
Coroner Christopher Sumner, recording a verdict of accidental death, said: "Sharon lost control as some form of animal ran from one side of the carriageway to the other.
"She reacted the way 99% of people would, but paid the ultimate price."
I dont know what the coroner was smoking but it would seem I am in the 1% of people who do not swerve to avoid small animals, for what I thought were pretty obvious reasons. On occiasions when a larger animal ie fox, dog, cat etc has run out infron of me I brake as opposed to swerving - if the animal doesnt move in time then it's bye bye Mr. Fuzzy bum.
Sorry about the cat - put the next one on a lead if you dont want it to suffer a similar fate
Sadly we have to accept that there are far too many people who just don't care about the welfare of animals, or don't understand the affect they have on people's lives.
But strangely, the [i]real[/i] animal lovers keep allowing theirs to be butchered on the roads.
The OP has had 2 pets die in the same circumstance. At what point does that become a concern?
real animal lovers
sounds rather seedy 🙁
Are you an 'animal lover' if you think they're really tasty ?
To the OP - sorry to hear that story, and you're spot on in your concern about casual exceeding of speed limits in residential areas, whatever your reason.
Can't say I relate to the impact of the loss of a pet, but to give you a hard time over your (quite clearly heartfelt) letter because I don't quite share all its sentiments would be going out of my way to be a prick.
What do the people who've done exactly that get out of their input? People like that are so hellbent on being 'right', provoking discomfort and forcing others to accept their views that they contribute to the downgrading and erosion of the human traits that make life civil and pleasant. I'd have thought the evidence of this erosion is plainly visible to any of us who ride on roads with traffic. People are getting nastier.
Where do you want it to end?
This forum is going downhill IMO (no pun intended) because of this kind of spoilt-child trampling of people.
[i]I could go on to tell a awful story, where a mate hit a cat, so he stopped the car to see it lying on the side of the road, thinking it was there suffering he pulled out a tyre wrench from the boot of his car and began to put it out of it's misery, the owner rushed out to stop him and pointed out the actual cat he's knocked over, which was dead on the other side of the road......[/i]
shamelessly nicked from Billy Connolly, that...
And would the forum be going "uphill" if everytime someone posted on here because their goldfish was floating upside-down everyone indulged in a gigantic sympathy-spaff? 😯
provoking discomfort and forcing others to accept their views
stating a different opinion does not force anyone to adopt it, unless the reasoning is overwhelming. I found the OP's remarks mawkish and disproportionate, but I don't challenge their right to think that way. Are you suggesting that if someone is upset they should be uncritically supported ?
Are you suggesting that if someone is upset they should be uncritically supported ?
Clearly not. I suggest refraining from hounding them. Quite a difference, wouldn't you agree?
I genuinely thought it was a wind up. Wasn't it?
This all reminds me of hen i was about 13. We hated cats in our ousehold. They kept coming into the back garden and fishing in the pond and shitting everywhere. They also wound our dog up They quite often got treated to a brick up the arse or a dunk in the pond.
Anyhow next dors cat of a few years old was a ginger tom who thought he owned he place. Once found the bugger in our house. He came to his end one day when he was flattened by a car and as we did the milk round we were the first ones to discover this. My pal decided to have a laugh and had this mangled cat on his shoulder for the entire round. He was talking to it and trying to feed the bugger. Its jaw etc were broken so it looked bloody horrible.
End of the round we dumped it in a dustbin and left it at that. Few days later the neighbours (Who we got on with tbh) shouting for the cat. Must admit i shamefully had a few giggles about it.
I was young!!!!
Anyhow, i am the oner of a 13yr old cat who i have cared for like a child since i was 20 and i would be sd to see her go. But go she will and i wll get ove it.
I genuinely thought it was a wind up. Wasn't it?
No, it seems that people genuinely do buy loving family pets, and then chuck them out of the house at every available opportunity, subsequently blaming others for not caring enough to swerve into oncoming traffic to avoid the furball, and later carry a dead animal around like a deranged loony until arrested for thrusting flat animals in strangers' faces.
SFB
IMO vehicles should be limited to 10mph on all residential streets
I think this would be overkill to say the least.
I found the OP's remarks [b]mawkish[/b] and disproportionate
what a great word, i shal endeavour to use it from now on
I think this would be overkill to say the least.
Better than roadkill anyway.
Grabs coat.......
A bit soppy, but who cares.........as I stated in a previous message on this forum debate....we had a rescue kitten....
A few days after he was on the road to recovery, he then just disappeared, we spent the whole day looking for him and it was causing us distress.
Then came the evening and we just had to face the fact that he had gone and it was upsetting............but..........
That night I had a splitting headache and decided to go and lie down for a couple of hours...........to my amazment I heard a scratching in the room (we did have a mouse problem, this would eventually be a job for the kitten).
The little bugger had only climbed into the big drawer under the bed (opened in the morning to change bed sheets) and been sleeping there all day.........it was such a relief...
Absolutely f..king brilliant
I think this would be overkill to say the least.
or rather [b]underkill[/b] ?
As a cat lover and someone who'd probably rather give to animal charities than human charities (theres a can 'o' worms for you!) I can honestly say the original person may not have realised they hit the cat and depending on the mess and flatness of the result it may not have been obvious to other drivers at night what the cat was, especially on a fast road. Would I try to avoid a dead animal in the road - I always do, regardless of animal, but would I swerve to avoid it if it was in my path and I realised at the last minute what it was - nope. Sorry for your loss, but really this is someting you think to yourself and mutter about while grieving the loss, not something you write to the local paper about. That's not a lack of compassion, that's just getting on with daily life. If someone had put the cat on the pavement and kids had come along and pulled it apart and peed on it THAT would be lack of compassion (and not beyond some of the locals back near where I used to live).
I hit a cat while driving a rangerover once (thats bound to stir up anger from several camps!) - saw it a good 25ft ahead. Stood on teh brakes, locked all 4 wheels and slide at about 20 degrees to the direction of travel. Hit the kitty with the front left wheel, he bounced out at a rate of knots and sprinted, then turned around and came back for a stroke. I sat with him for half an hour checking for injuries but he amazingly seemed fine.
I once saw a cat hit by the car in front of me, I slammed on and as I came to a halt I saw the poor little thing with a chunk of skull missing and brain clearly on display, yelling at the sky. I reversed and positioned myself for a hopefully fatal blow but by that time the poor little sod was dead, but the image haunted me for years.
Jesus wept, is this still going on? 🙄
Have you ever heard the noise that cows make when their calves are taken away? Compassion is not really a modern consideration, personal empathy has since been discarded and replaced by episodes of media announced "periods of communal mourning".
I believe the best council sanctioned and publicly recognized method of dealing with a situation like this is to build a small shrine? perhaps you could tie its favorite toy, a bunch of flowers, an england flag or a "ghost bowl" to a nearby piece of street furniture?
otherwise you could bury the poor little bugger in your garden, have a private moment with your family and then set about moving on with your lives?
(apologies if that comes across as callous, insensitive or horrid, my back aches and I've got the arse, no offense intended, pressure washer. sorry. I can't help myself. I also take milk in my tea. shit there I go again. sorry.)
I think I am almost too compassionate when it comes to little critters.
I do think though that there are some locations where having a cat is not a good idea due to the amount of traffic around. Perhaps the OP is in one of those locations and should consider whether another cat is sensible or not.
A friend of mine used to live on a busy main road and had 1 cat that lived to a ripe old age. Whether it was lazy or intelligent, I don't know. His family got two kittens that both got run over when they got to about 1yr old. His little sister whinged until they got another couple of kittens. Same thing happened with those two, so no more kittens. The old cat was still alive after all the kittens had been squished. I think it was extra-intelligent - or was pushing the other cats into the road out of jealousy!? 😉
Driving on a country road a while ago, I came over the brow of a hill in a village to find an animal writhing in the road - it turned out to be a ginger & white cat, but on first glance almost looked like a fox. It had obviously been hit by a car and as it flailed around, there was blood shooting everywhere. I pulled over before i got to it and legged it to the nearest house. The bloke who answered eyed me with definite suspicion as if I was up to something and said he didn't know anyone who owned a ginger cat. I tried the neighbour, and they didn't either. At this point I returned to the cat and it had died. I was just about to go to the boot to find something to move it with (it was completely covered in blood and I was not entirely happy about getting my car/self covered in it) when a car pulled up and the bloke who hopped out happened to be a vet. He went straight over the to the cat, checked it was done for and then picked it up and carried it to the edge of the road. I am glad he came along tobe honest; I wasn't relishing the task!
I think when I first saw it writhing around in the middle of the road it was already dead, but was going through it's death throes or something, but it still shook me up for ages.
We have a cat that we got from a rescue home and she's a little 5h1t to be honest, but I would be gutted if she were to come to a sticky end.
Not pleasant stumpy but wouldn't the best thing to have done to be to drive over it again.
My wife's uncle once decapitated a cat while cycling, it ran out and went head first into the rear wheel.He was doing a fair speed at the time and it made a real mess. It still disturbs him now and this happened over 20 years ago.
I once ran over a kitten in a Deutz Fahr tractor (I was driving the tractor, not the kitten).
I didn't realise I'd done it, I had a Saturday job on a farm and I'd just got in the tractor and pulled forward when the farmer's wife - an elderly lady of about 80 - came running out shouting at me that I'd just rolled over this thing.
I rolled back, and this kitten was completely unscathed. It's had fitted just between the treads of the rear tire!
The old girl ran back in the house, grabbed a 12 bore and shot it! They had quite a problem with wild cats.
Assume for a second that a compassionate person had scraped up the dead cat he'd just hit and managed to find the owner. (And correct me if I'm wrong but cats tend to stray a little further than the end of the garden so this may take a little while.)
The grateful owner would obviously offer to pay for the car to be washed and valeted, the drivers clothes to be drycleaned, and for any slight damage to the bumpers to be rectified, and of course a little offering to pay for time wasted chasing around for an absent owner.
I am right in assuming that ths would happen?