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This is nothing to do with sanctimony. I'll freely admit my carbon footprint isn't great at all.
But the facts are the facts. It's precious stuff, we should not be pissing it away.
trial rat,
its the C350 AMG sport plus with 265hp and a whopping 620NM of torques,
I think its quite legit to call a 155mph (limited) autobahn storming estate a 'sports estate' but then what would i know i'm only a lowly F1 engineer.
i know one thing i didn't buy the petrol version through choice and i couldn't afford the AMG C63 this year but i might be able to at the end of this season 😀
From my extensive records.... 🙂
Vespa GT200 74mpg
Piaggio X10 72mpg
Ducati ST3s 44mpg
Ducati Monster 696 52mpg (mostly being thrashed to within an inch of its life)
Honda NC700X 74mpg (that's just the first fill, I'm hoping to get it up to around the 80mpg mark)
And remember none of those get stuck in traffic either 🙂
EDIT
I used to have a Honda CG125 that cost me £250. I used to get bored waiting to put fuel in it, yes it was slow but it easily exceeded 110mpg all the time. £6 of fuel used to last me something like 3 weeks!
No good for a 50 mile round trip motorway commute 5 times a week though!
I lost the back end on a wet roundabout once, I just lay there laughing as it span round on its footpeg, got up, kicked the starter twice and rode off. Fantastic bit of kit.
Some jumped up people on here really.
What has my fuel economy got to do with you and who are you to say I shouldn't get a car with low MPG?
Is it not a free country?
I chose a car that suits my needs. It has a low MPG but I accepted that when I bought it and pay tax (fuel and 'road') at a higher amount as a consequence.
The green willy measuring competitions on here are great. In a nearby thread you'll find the same people condoning driving the length of the country to play in the woods, and justifying spending thousands on toys to play with.
Your carbon footprint is directly proportional to how much you spend. It doesn't matter what you spend it on. We nave an oil based economy. Money is oil.
Oh... anything over 30mpg is good for me.
This is nothing to do with sanctimony. I'll freely admit my carbon footprint isn't great at all.But the facts are the facts. It's precious stuff, we should not be pissing it away.
You cant pick and choose these things , just because you drive a pious doesnt mean you can ignore the other areas of your carbon footprint that are pissing it away and lecture others on their choice of car.
What about carbon pffset rangerovers 😉 Where they pay to have a bunch of trees planted in exchange for a little sticker on the back that says carbon offset ?
I agree with 5thElefant and perhaps would go further (?)
Every last drop of oil will be sold, some day there will one day be a war over resources, I don't see how this can't happen...
The nuclear disaster in Japan with Japan admitting it can't meet its emissions targets how do you see that?
what is it?
A 2004 2.2 Petrol Vectra.
Some jumped up people on here really.What has my fuel economy got to do with you and who are you to say I shouldn't get a car with low MPG?
Is it not a free country?
It's a question/survey feel free to answer or not
50mpg is my vote
just because you drive a pious doesnt mean you can ignore the other areas of your carbon footprint
I don't think that. I make an effort in all areas. Not as much as I should though, as I admitted earlier.
In a nearby thread you'll find the same people condoning driving the length of the country to play in the woods
No you won't.
What has my fuel economy got to do with you
Lots, because we live together.
Recently become the owner of a BMW 320d efficient dynamics. Over my first 5k miles, the worst I've achieved is 50mpg which was on my first tankful, with running in and town driving. Since then I'm regularly getting 60mpg on mixed town and motorway driving.
This is actual mpg calculated from brimming the tank rather than the trip meter figure which is normally between 5 and 10% higher.
By comparison I previously had a 2.0 ctdi 160 Insignia. That gave a best of 50mpg,but typically returned 45mpg.
30-35mpg is good mpg.
My little 1.4 partner spazvan does 43-45 if I drive at it's comfy speed- 65mph.
My 2.4 A6 estate does 30-33 but can bowl along at 80mph.
My old 911 did 26-30mpg depending on if it was a long run at 90mph or if I was screwing along the back roads playing tunes on the gearbox.
If I can't run it on veggie then I don't really have any interest in a diesel car and all the raised fuel prices that goes with (£1.27 ul v £1.38 d here). Never mind the extra maintenance bollocks on modern diesels.
The commuter motorbike does 59mpg.
I guess living somewhere rural has it's advantages with traffic.
@ Peter Proddy, 'Honda NC700X 74mpg (that's just the first fill, I'm hoping to get it up to around the 80mpg mark)'
My NC700X (DCT) has averaged 83 mpg so far, 79.9 being the worst and 85.8 being the best.
I can truly say that I look forward to filling it up 🙂
My NC700X (DCT) has averaged 83 mpg so far, 79.9 being the worst and 85.8 being the best.
I can truly say that I look forward to filling it up
Sounds good! 🙂
I think the DCT is meant to be (very) slightly better than the manual 'box to be fair, as is the newer 750 engine, but looking at the graph on Fuelly I'll be disappointed if I can't hit high 70s at least.
I've got a bigger Puig Touring screen to go on it on order, there's a possibility that could help too. Fitting a screen made a noticeable difference to my GT200, both in top speed and fuel consumption
I'm loving the bike too. It's a totally new riding experience, for sure, but it makes me smile a bit and it blats around town very nicely and is very relaxing on the motorway. My last bike was doing 7000rpm at 70mph, the NC is doing exactly half that.
Good to see the BMW 320d getting good figures, BMW seem to be one of the worst at cheating the standard tests so I have always been sceptical of the high figures for the 320d.
Yes, the economy is superb, the DCT is great, my commute to/from work includes the M25 😡 so can be slow at times, it really works so well in heavy traffic and the dual mode is a nice option to have too.
I very much like the laid back relaxed attitude the bike gives, the low revving torquey engine is very different from the 'Street Triple it replaced, a very good bike, but not quite me and my knees and elbows weren't liking the riding position!
I have a Givi screen, Acerbis hand guards and bigger foot for the side stand, this year it should gain a centre stand and some hard luggage.
The 2014 '750 should be better, but I'm in no hurry to change, wouldn't be worth the cost of changefor the very little I'd gain.

