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Need to quickly replace my wheels due to their impending death getting a lot closer

Do a 20k p.a. mainly motorway, need to lug kids and bikes about so would prefer an estate

Mundeo is an obvious choice but at this price point I seem to be playing the DMF lottery

Help!!!


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:36 pm
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What's your annual mileage?


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:44 pm
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Not sure but I'm guessing it could be...

Do a 20k p.a. mainly motorway

or there abouts.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:46 pm
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Don't be ridiculous. Nobody reads posts properly

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Posted : 09/08/2017 5:51 pm
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What's your budget.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:00 pm
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Not sure but I'm guessing it could be...

What car for £4k and what to look out for

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Posted : 09/08/2017 6:03 pm
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What's your budget.

Maybe read the thread title.....


 
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Did any of you lot pass any exams at school? We were told to READ THE QUESTION, make sure you understand it, then answer it.....
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Posted : 09/08/2017 6:05 pm
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Have you considered a Mondeo? DPF might be an issue though at that price point though.


 
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At £4k you are relying on lady luck ultimately. But to reduce the risk:

1) Only consider cars with a FSH. And inspect any invoices, etc if available.
2) Check the MOT history.
3) A high mileage car isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots of short, stop-start journeys are not good. Lots of motorway driving is good.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:11 pm
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LOL

Yep considering the Mondeo, if I dig deeper I can get the 1.6 diesel, other than being dull any reason not to?


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:12 pm
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What's the break even point for diesel/petrol these days? IRC it used to be about 20k

After 10 years in a diesel iv'e gone back to petrol and am quite enjoying it. I don't feel quite so dirty either.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:16 pm
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Something Japanese and boring.

I have a hideously boring avensis estate that will carry a small village around if neccesary, has 150BHP so relatively sprightly when neccesary, does 55MPG and has not needed a single thing fixing apart from normal service/wear and tear items, is currently worth way less than 4K. Buy one of those.

When it dies / I move on my head says just buy a newer version of the same thing. My heart says differnt of course.


 
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PS - in direct answer to the OP - I'll sell you my '07 plate 110K mile Avensis estate for £4K. You'll feel ripped off (quite rightly, it's worth half that). In 4 years time you'll be quids in as it will just work and work and work. Which is why I'm not selling it. 😉


 
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Just sold my 59 plate Mazda 6 sport estate. Great car and let it go for 3300. Worth every penny of that and never missed a single beat in the 4 1/2 years I had it after it's original lease was up. Great drivers car, 180 brake and all the bells and whistles that you'll pay at least 1.5k more for the duller German equivalent.


 
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Had an avensis and it died on me, mystery problem that was a pita

Done Honda as well, killed that as well

Poshed up to an Outlander which is great except the engine is now goosed

Need cheap, boring, reliable, safe


 
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See my post, but remove the boring from yours.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:37 pm
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Not many about in decent range, 3 in fact


 
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OP Japanese is the way to go, not sure why you had the problems with Toyota and Honda but they would be the obvious choices.


 
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mystery problem that was a pita

Duff garage ?


 
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Real reply - for that money I wouldn't be too fixed on model, more looking at fsh, great condition and private, caring owner...


 
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1) Only consider cars with a FSH. And inspect any invoices, etc if available.

Means nothing.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 8:29 pm
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Essel is correct, fsh means sfa.
Always buy on condition.
Id go japanese, and the simpler the better, less to go wrong that way.
Subaru outback?
I had a legacy estate, bulletproof car.
Bit heavy on the juice for a standard 2.0 though.


 
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Note to self: don't buy a car off old'n'daft.


 
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Means nothing.

Means everything! Condition is cosmetic... I bought my Outback 2 years ago for £2.5k witth every panel dented , but it had ten years of the same original owner, and FSH and it drives like new. I replaced the exhaust , but other than that, nowt.
The same purchase priorities have seen me right for nearly 40 years of trouble free motoring, mostly in cars that have been cosmetically challenged, and dare I say it, French.
£4k would get you a good Subaru. Thirsty, yes, but If looked after you'll spend nowt on repairs.


 
Posted : 09/08/2017 9:11 pm
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The 1.8 diesel in the MK2 focus doesn't have a dpf. I'm sure they used the same engine in the Mondeo of the same age.


 
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cheap, boring, reliable, safe

= Toyota or Honda

Occasionally the boring bit can be dropped (Supra, Celica, MR2 etc) even more rarely the safe bit too (S2000)but even then they're reliable and cheap(ish)


 
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Essel is correct, fsh means sfa.

Sure, but a lack of one could well be cause for concern.


 
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Sure, but a lack of one could well be cause for concern.

Could be, could not be. Since I've owned my car it's had the oil and filters changed more often than it 'should', but I've done it myself (along with other bits of work) so there's no proper service history. I've got receipts for oil, filters, brake fluid, glow plugs, wheel bearings etc. It's only the big jobs that I've had done at a proper garage.


 
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BMW 320d upto 2007 with the 163Bhp engine no DPF! Any ford 1.8 tdci no DPF. Toyota Avensis pre 2010 2.0D4-D no Dpf. Honda Accord CDTi no DPF.


 
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For sale: Mazda 6 sport (as above) 10-plate, 46k, 2.2l diesel 180bhp with all the extras, £5500.

Cracking car for someone doing 20k/year


 
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Alan, estate?


 
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That'll most likely be the facelift version on a 10 plate. Seems a touch high in price bit has got nice low mileage.


 
Posted : 10/08/2017 9:27 am
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So maybe it's priced well for the mileage and condition then.


 
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Not many about in decent range, 3 in fact

How many do you want? surely you only need one.

Mazda 6 estate would also be my pick. Practical, not too boring, and rare enough to be overlooked by most people and therefore good VFM.


 
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Seems a touch high in price bit has got nice low mileage.

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2200 more than I sold mine for, 6 months younger and 45k less. That isn't worth an extra 2200 in my book. Mine was priced and sold by a mate who sells quite a few more cars than the folk on here. But hey carry on, as you were.


 
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What's your budget.

Maybe read the thread title.....

Did any of you lot pass any exams at school? We were told to READ THE QUESTION, make sure you understand it, then answer it.....
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Maybe try reading the few posts directly above mine to spot why I sarcastically asked what the budget was.
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Toyota 2.0 D4D, our local Toyota dealer had a part ex in off a taxi driver and had done 1000003 miles, yes 1 million on original engine and box.
My wife has one on about 90k not even run in yet and nothing ever goes wrong.


 
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Every other part had been replaced?


 
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estate yes. Giving it away at 3300!

We paid more than we should have from Arnold Clark last year (£7k+), great condition and history so keen not to give it away and it's hard to find a petrol replacement than is anywhere near as nice for under £10k (wife's commute has recently shortened to a 10 minute drive).

Mazdas on eBay / gumtree / autotrader seem to vary a lot. Can see the same car up from £4K to £8k. Even if you don't buy mine, I'd recommend it as above... overlooked by many, reliable, fast, spacious etc.


 
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Alan, if it is £3300 i'd be very interested but i think that's a typo.


 
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If you are looking at a Mazda diesel check the oil level if it's high walk away. I.E Well over max it's likely to have diesel in the engine oil.


 
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2200 more than I sold mine for, 6 months younger and 45k less. That isn't worth an extra 2200 in my book. Mine was priced and sold by a mate who sells quite a few more cars than the folk on here. But hey carry on, as you were.

You sold yours too cheaply. Your mate probably added a bit on for himself when he sold it on. 8)


 
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Seen 2 Mazda 6 estates

59 reg, with 110k, £3k some history, towbar fitted in 2014

61 reg, with 83k, £5k not a lot of history

Look ok, basic spec,

There is a 61 reg takuya spec 99k factory towbar on for £5.3k somewhere else

Alan if you are in the NW and able to get in the race I'll be keen to chat


 
Posted : 10/08/2017 6:23 pm
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Dpfs give major problems on newer Mazdas


 
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I.E Well over max it's likely to have diesel in the engine

Well not strictly true. The dipstick actually has a l for low and a h for high just like most cars, but this one has an x also, this sits above the h which is also an indicator of when to change the oil. It's how the engine works and is part of the dpf regen cycle. Never had an issue and changed oil every year.


 
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After googling Mazda 6 for issues I have depressed myself

Anything else to put on the list?


 
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Bought a 2007 Subaru Legacy REN Estate couple years ago for 4500. Love it. Had partial history but it is immaculate and runs great and low mileage.

Yes it's quite thirsty but not that bad considering its a massive lump of an AWD estate with a petrol boxer engine.

Lovely to drive on twisty roads, comfy cruiser and makes "progress" ok!

It won't be leaving my mitts until it's deid!


 
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honda accord if you can get a nice 2.2 cdti on that budget, or an Alan partridge Lexus is200/220 but no estate option on those. Usual 3 series or c-class. maybe a Volvo?


 
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There's lots of DPF equipped diesel cars out there have never broken down, likewise ones with DMF's,


 
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After googling Mazda 6 for issues I have depressed myself

Anything else to put on the list?

As you originally said 20k mostly motorway I can't see it being a problem, if you were tootling round town yes but not for motorway work.

I had a 56 plate Mazda 6 TD estate for 9 years apart from Tyres, 2 headlight bulbs, 1 battery & a track-rod end it was just routine servicing.
I would probably still be driving it but I needed something higher for lifting the wife in and out of.

Oh and 70% of my driving was/is urban


 
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Alanl6538 I've PM'd you 🙂 thanks 🙂


 
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[quote=big_n_daft ]Mundeo is an obvious choice but at this price point I seem to be playing the DMF lottery

DMF or DPF (as others seem to be assuming)? I know nothing about the latter, but presume my 08 Mondeo doesn't have one - I paid £4k for that almost 5 years ago when it was 4.5 years old. It had 120k on the clock hence the pricing when others of a similar age were several thousands more - in general I'd recommend people with a similar budget go for a similar relatively new but high mileage model, though it may not be ideal for you given your high mileage (though given how modern cars cope with miles that may not be an issue even so). As for the DMF I bought assuming I'd have the bill for that coming up and budgeted for it - sure enough about a year later it needed doing, but even so the car was still a bargain (and it's just as likely to be an issue with a much lower mileage, and probably also for lots of other models).


 
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If your Mondeo is a mk 4 and not a 1.8 it will have a DPF. Most cars have a dual mass flywheel these days. It's the high torque from the diesels that wears them out. Petrols last much longer.


 
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Regarding DPF's you can get them cleaned by the Ceramex process costs about £300. This is the only one that has had any success so I'm told. Other methods are just snake oil.


 
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toyota avensis


 
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[quote=Inbred456 ]If your Mondeo is a mk 4 and not a 1.8 it will have a DPF.

It's a Mk4 1.8, so presumably not then. Does mean it has a cambelt (rather than chain) though, swings and roundabouts.


 
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[url= http://www.dpfproblems.net/cars-without-a-dpf/ ]DPF Info[/url]
A handy guide with a good bit of info on DPF's.
The 1.8 TDCi has a cam belt. It's quite an old design and was used on the mk1 and 2 Focus as well. It's quite an easy belt to change I did one on my dads focus. He has the 115bhp mk1 focus 2004 estate. It's been the best car he's ever had.


 
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