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Its not the amount of oil or the price of a barrel I'm highlighting. Its the positive reporting that was non existent before last Thursday.

Of course, why would this be a surprise to anyone? Too late now.

Westminster did a reasonably good job of protecting the UK's interests against a a potential split lead by the SNP.

Blame AS for not convincing enough of your countrymen to vote yes, good luck in another 20 years.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 9:24 pm
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This shit just broke for real

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/09/20/worlds-largest-oil-field-found-off-scottish-coast/

Maybe.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 9:32 pm
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Of course, why would this be a surprise to anyone?

You knew about the Heriot-Watt research before they published it?

Actually it probably is a conspiracy by HW to make the UK government look bad.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 9:50 pm
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The image usage is class.. Sun setting on a oil rig. Mist clearing to reveal another rig. 😆 no bias here, move on..


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:21 pm
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Sun setting on a oil rig. Mist clearing to reveal a rig.

I'm calling it here and now...

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Stock photos, nothing more.

Now, get back to your grassy knoll.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:22 pm
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Just happened to pick those? 😆


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:26 pm
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So, you haven't answered on the Heriot-Watt university question seosamh...

Are they part of the conspiracy or not? Did they hold back news of this technological breakthrough until after the referendum?


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:29 pm
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Dunno.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:30 pm
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Just happened to pick those?

Well, if there's hidden meaning in the photo choice. I look at those photos as if I'm looking east away from land.

So that's a sunrise, not a sunset.

Or are you a natural pessimist? 😛


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:31 pm
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Dunno.

Said most of the electorate.....


 
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Just happened to pick those?
Well, if there's hidden meaning in the photo choice. I look at those photos as if I'm looking east away from land.

So that's a sunrise, not a sunset.

Talk about contrived reasoning. 😆


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:35 pm
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I've been learning from Facebook 😉


 
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Dunno.
Said most of the electorate
aye you forget. It's not 1979 or 1997 anymore. There will be an overwhelming public record of the bullshit stored on webservers the world over for next time! 😉


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:37 pm
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Talk about contrived reasoning.

No more, or less, contrived than your reasoning.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:38 pm
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Technology boost for Scotland's oil reserves in North Sea

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29342142

Its not even a week. Hahaha! lies and deceit eh thm?

As juanking says, it's old news , no game changer, no BBC conspiracy, it's a press release being picked up by the press. Other news websites are available. Take your tin foil hats off.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:38 pm
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Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?


 
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Talk about contrived reasoning.
No more, or less, contrived than your reasoning.
folks here work in the finance and know that shit. I work in graphics. And I know who's doing the contriving here. 😆


 
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Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?
there was an oil industry marketing video kicking about before the ref. Can't find the thread at the moment to check how it tallies with the article mind. Might fire it up later if I can find it again.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:43 pm
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Heriot Watt paper was published in 2013. Why have the BBC chosen to publish the news release now? Surely it could have done it last week no?

I think the article is in relation to an update of the original paper. Hence the press release.

Not that sure tbh.

A quick google finds a related article on newsnet


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:47 pm
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Please don't, I doubt anyone gives a toss.

Everyone was given until Thurdsay to wallow in self pity and bitterness. One hour to go and then let's have some cheery sunshine from our friends north of the border.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:48 pm
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The image usage is class..

Never about the photo used, what about the article ?

In case you haven't read it, and you probably haven't, this is what it says :

[i]The chairman of a Scottish government commission into the future of North Sea oil has said the industry would be "hard-pushed" to extract 15bn barrels.

Melfort Campbell was responding to Sir Ian Wood's assertion that predictions of up to 24bn barrels were too high.

On Thursday, First Minister Alex Salmond insisted that 24bn barrels of oil could be recovered.

But Mr Campbell, who chaired the independent expert commission on oil and gas which was commissioned by the Scottish government to find ways to maximise oil and gas extractions, said the 24bn figure was the "aspirational scenario".[/i]

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28894505 ]Further warning over North Sea oil extraction figures[/url]

So the man trusted by the SNP Scottish government to advise them on how the maximise extraction of North Sea oil challenges the SNP/Salmond 24bn figure, and you want to castigate the BBC for reporting it ?

Well thank **** you guys didn't win the vote last Thursday, if that's your attitude towards journalism.


 
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Ask NW

We totally are. Actually we had an official policy of impartiality but I don't think that would have affected this either way. There's most likely industry funding behind it which could bring in other considerations.

If anyone's [i]really[/i] curious, I could ask.


 
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Everyone was given until Thurdsay to wallow in self pity and bitterness. One hour to go and then let's have some cheery sunshine from our friends north of the border.

Pssst - you have fewer friends north of the border than what you had last week.

I wonder if the impending brain drain from Scotland was considered as a potential outcome of a No vote. It may well just be my extended circle of acquaintances, but there are a lot of highly qualified people making firm plans to leave Scotland forever.


 
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I wonder if the impending brain drain from Scotland was considered as a potential outcome of a No vote.

All the clever people are leaving Scotland ...... [i]forever[/i] ?

Gosh.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:56 pm
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All the clever people leaving Scotland ?

Have a look around the world Ernie_Lynch, it has been happening for many years. The pace at which it is happening is only going to increase. People have realised that the Scotland they thought the lived in and loved is a figment of their imagination and now that it has been made clear they are off to pastures new.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:59 pm
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Ernie. I think I've made it pretty clear the my point is about presentation and mood.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 10:59 pm
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Which utopia are they going to?

And after they leave they will reduce the likelihood of a future yes vote, or do they just want live somewhere sunnier? 😉


 
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I wonder if the impending brain drain from Scotland was considered as a potential outcome of a No vote. It may well just be my extended circle of acquaintances, but there are a lot of highly qualified people making firm plans to leave Scotland forever.

Was that the prospect of going through the whole charade again?

Why leave Scotland, we are all told what a brilliant place it was and so much better than England. In many ways, correct (awful beer aside)


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:01 pm
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What makes you think that they are looking for Utopia? Scotland and indeed the UK at present is shit. There are plenty places on the planet that are not as shit.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:01 pm
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One of my favourite cognitive biases:

Hostile media effect - The tendency to see a media report as being biased, owing to one's own strong partisan views.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases ]Wikipedia[/url]


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:03 pm
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Like where? You pointy failed to name any. 😉


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:04 pm
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NW they may be curious but your answer will be biased based on the receivers bias [ and possibly your].

Whilst I would not get a tin foil hat out just yet it seems unlikely the years and years of research only bore fruit in the last week and they rushed the news out.

YMMV and we will never know for sure


 
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Having a job that allows lots of travel makes me appreciate that the UK is anything but shit. Bloody marvellous place to live and work (both sides of the border)

The lack of appreciation of how lucky we are really grated during the whole referendum process. We don't know how lucky we are....


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:07 pm
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Thm just for you to lighten the mood. The SNP leader elect sporting the greatest afro with a fringe, ever! 😆

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Ernie. I think I've made it pretty clear the my point is about presentation and mood.

So now it's the "mood" as well as the presentation that you don't like ?

But you're alright about the article itself, or doesn't that matter ?


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:11 pm
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She has had some shocking barnetts in her time hasn't she!!

Are you sure that's not David Sole without the head bandage? 😉


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:12 pm
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It doesn't matter. I haven't a Scooby what oil there is and isn't.


 
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Having a job that allows lots of travel makes me appreciate that the UK is anything but shit. Bloody marvellous place to live and work (both sides of the border)

The lack of appreciation of how lucky we are really grated during the whole referendum process. We don't know how lucky we are....

That all depends on how you define shit and the perspective with which you view that shit. I can confidently predict that you have benefited from living in the UK. Many people whose efforts you have benefited from have not benefited from living in the UK.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:13 pm
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Emigrate then? There's all that lovely green grass just over....

For such a shit place, amazing how many people seem to want to come and live here.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:15 pm
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Must be time for some team bonding maybe the entire population could go and do some team games in the woods somewhere or maybe just hug a Scott day.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:19 pm
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Fwiw I don't think the UK is shit. I do think it can be better.


 
Posted : 24/09/2014 11:21 pm
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Indeed THM.... To be born in England is like winning first prize in the lottery of life!

Traffic's a bit shit though!


 
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Having a job that allows lots of travel makes me appreciate that the UK is anything but shit. Bloody marvellous place to live and work (both sides of the border)

The lack of appreciation of how lucky we are really grated during the whole referendum process. We don't know how lucky we are....


This 😀
Not travelled a lot but agree with this 😆


 
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Emigrate then? There's all that lovely green grass just over....

For such a shit place, amazing how many people seem to want to come and live here.

That's the plan. Professional registration has been obtained, visa has been applied for and job is just about sealed. Melbourne is my destination - have more family there than what I have here. Will be getting paid around 150% more for doing the same job. Living costs will be comparable.

As for the second part of your comment - as I said, it depends how you define shit and where you're looking at that shit from.


 
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