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Cabbage Before Tandoori?
Then they need to get their wives on board, so that when they ask for seconds they say no instead of just fetching them more from whatever that room the food appears from is called.
I hope you're trolling...
What do you reckon 🙂
No? It's been scientifically proven by scientists, using science, that spouses....along with cake...are the #1 reason for the obesity epidemic.
You just need to be strong, and say "No, Dear. 4 slices of congealed pig fat is enough, thank you."
Cabbage before triathlon has to be a recipe for disaster, it would make the road all slippy and they would all crash
You should know that muscle glycogen stores weigh about 3-4kg
Maximum glycogen stores are of the order of 2kg including the associated water. Empirically: endurance athletes are very good at going from fully stocked with glycogen to almost no glycogen stores in a few hours and really don't lose 3-4 kgs due to glycogen consumption, it's 1-2kgs, been there, done that. Scientifically if you take the total weight of the liver and muscles and the maximum amount of glycogen they can store in grams per kilo along with the weight of the water needed to store it then you end up with around 2kgs.
In the half hour or so after exercise the body is very efficient at replenishing glycogen stores so it's a good time to eat a lot without making body fat.
So you're disputing my measurements?
Just being consistently critical of the idave diet and claims made for it, Molgrips.
So you think I'm fibbing?
It seems you really, really want me to accuse you of lying, Molgrips. Sorry, can no do.
Do you agree with me when I say that no more than 2kg (rather than 3-4kg) of the loss could have come from glycogen reserves? And probably less as in a previous idave thread you claimed that your weight didn't rise on your eat-what-you-want days which if you had been low on glycogen it would have done.
You also said you felt good on the idave diet whereas exercising when low on glycogen is laborious. idave himself claimed the diet was perfect for hard-training professional endurance athletes (who need high glycogen stores to be able to train hard enough for the training to be effective).
not this again...
At least it's here rather than on the Kenny Senior thread (whom I suspect will do better long term than the idave fad followers).
Am I right in thinking you now weigh 5kgs more than you did before you started idave dieting, Molgrips?
Do you agree with me when I say that no more than 2kg (rather than 3-4kg) of the loss could have come from glycogen reserves?
I wouldn't claim to be able to be so specific about an individual (i.e. me). Reading a wiki-fact and then building an argument about a specific individual in a specific set of circumstances seems pretty foolish to me.
For example, take this 2kg figure. Is that an average? What's the standard deviation? What's the chance of outliers? How does that figure vary amongst different people? Do you even know?
What else can affect reduction of body weight besides hydration? What processes affect lipolysis and lipogenesis besides calorie expenditure? I certainly don't know them all, so I certainly can't say WHY I experienced that weight loss and what happened inside my body. I'd contend that you can't, either.
Am I right in thinking you now weigh 5kgs more than you did before you started idave dieting, Molgrips?
No. I was 92kg that day, I went down to 82kg in about ooh, 3 months, then I went back up to about 87kg over 6 months or so of eating whatever I fancied, so that was early 2012 or so. Since then, I've tried various ways of calorie restriction, various exercise fuelling patterns, and various types of exercise, interspersed with periods of giving up, and I went back up to 92 before Christmas. For three or four weeks I dieted hard and exercised a lot and dropped to 88.something. That was unsustainable so I went back up to 92. The current work situation enables me to do two long hard rides a week with some shorter rides and runs, but I am eating more carbs, and I've dropped to 88.8kg again feeling far better than I did before Christmas.
I'd noticed that whilst the iDiet was very effective at first, it seems to lose its efficacy, with me at least. Some sort of adaptation took place, particularly last summer where I dieted well, did lots of riding and lost no weight.
That's why I posted the article, because it shows some similarities with my situation. You should know that I am not enamoured with any particular fad diet. All I want to do is figure out how best to achieve what I want, and then stick to it. I still think the iDiet works, but I do not think it works FOR ME long term for weight loss when doing high intensity exercise. However it is amazingly effective at increasing endurance on the bike.
Did anyone else read the original article and just think "typical Muricans looking for someone else to blame"?
Did anyone else read the original article and just think "typical Muricans looking for someone else to blame"?
Nope.
There's a whole google group devoted to this sort of stuff.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ancestral-running
It's run by an overweight very slow runner who spends his life sat in front of a computer researching methods of eating which don't involve eating a bit less, or running a bit harder. Because apparently eating a bit less and exercising a bit more definitely doesn't work.
He's got a blog on it.
http://yelling-stop.blogspot.co.uk/
He used to post on another group, but I understand he threw his toys out the pram, when it was suggested that his shape and speed meant he wasn't the best advert for the benefits of a low carb, low exercise intensity lifestyle.