When a "manager" I wore one. Even the day I forgot my trousers after washing them (after a 33km bike in it was too late to go back). So put on a dress shirt, the tie, a lab coat and got to the management meeting early. It wasn't long before someone noticed the cycling shorts and hairy legs under the table... .
OP
If you are aware of the dress code and don't agree by it don't take the job.
Im stuck wearing one at school. Spends most of its time tucked in so it doesnt wrap around a lathe or something.. great look.
But if im going to wear one its gotta be silk. Thats what charity shops and TK Maxx are for isnt it?
If you are aware of the dress code and don't agree [s]by [/s] with it don't take the job.
That's the end of this thread.
If I were require to wear tie to work I would wear one black colour tie forever. i.e. never to change or to wash until it rots. 😆
CaptainFlashheart - MemberThat's the end of this thread.
Where is the human right in this reply? 😈
Edukator - TrollWhen a "manager" I wore one. Even the day I forgot my trousers after washing them (after a 33km bike in it was too late to go back). So put on a dress shirt, the tie, a lab coat and got to the management meeting early. It wasn't long before someone noticed the cycling shorts and hairy legs under the table...
When I was in the bank it was strictly suit and tie. Rules were less clear on footwear, which is just as well because of the number of times I forgot my work shoes and went through the day in a pair of knee-high Sidi motorbike boots. It's an excellent look
(also tbh I'm one of those people who'll always look like a bairn in a suit, I've got a couple of nice ones now thanks to a simple shopping strategy, find a homosexual italian man and buy what he told me to. But they still makes me look about 12.)
In the current job, I have a very childish game I play... There's a couple of official university ties, an "anyone can wear it" one with the uni crest, and a graduates only one. Any time I wear my graduates one, it's only a matter of time til someone decides to tell me off for wearing the "wrong" tie, then I get to shoot them down. I am easily amused.
I wear one for work and I like them a lot. For me it about getting in the mood for work, I put on a well fitted suit, a good shirt and a tie and I'm in work mode. The fact that my wife thinks I like hot in said ensemble does no harm at all either. Saying that, I would agree that a tie only works with a suit, if you don't wear suit then you shouldn't need a tie.
Re. The OP, you took the job knowing the dress code, if you don't like it, turn the job down. I've hired people who have winced when I told them I expect them in a suit and tie, the choice is simple, if you want the job you need to take the dress code with it.
At the trade fairs we go to there is a company that sells skulls,big swords and all that warlock stuff.
The people on the stand are the sort of death metallers you would expect. Long hair,piercings ,tattoos etc.
Their boss makes them wear a suit at the fairs. They look bloody ridiculous.
None of their customers wear suits. I really can't see the point.
I haven't taken the job. I might not take the job. I might take the job. I already have a job. I don't like wearing a tie. I had no idea that a tie was compulsory until we were half way through the informal chat where I most certainly wasn't wearing a tie. I was just airing my feelings toward ties being compulsory for this employer. It's just a discussion (board).
I hate ties. Luckily my work attire is very far from formal.
Ties always seem to be quite an emotive subject - almost as bad as religion. Although personally I dislike ties more than I dislike religion....
cloud - MemberI haven't taken the job. I might not take the job. I might take the job. I already have a job. I don't like wearing a tie. I was just airing my feelings toward ties being compulsory for this employer. It's just a discussion (board).
I see you have got a job already hence able to be choosy, in that case your reaction to wearing tie is, okay, normal reaction. 😆
At one point I thought you were going to be a choosy beggar 😆
OP, based on your feelings find a job with a slacker dress code. Otherwise You will resent each morning tying that knot around your neck.
Suits and ties cause global warming - fact.
The insistence that men wear suits and ties in places like the US, even in summer, means most offices need air conditioning.
If the dress code means you're already wearing stuff you wouldn't normally wear around the house, then what in particular elevates a tie above this level? Perhaps your shirt collars are too tight? Or is it just a symbolic thing?
I must admit, I stopped noticing I even had it on after a week or so in my first job.
As long as you wear a nice, subtle one, and definitely not with a short sleeved shirt, you'll look OK, if that's what you're worried about.
Their marketing strategy clearly works, Zippy, you noticed them and haven't forgotten.
I understand your attitude, OP, but to me it's just a (symbolic) part of the whole submission thing that goes with a job. Not just job either, one local club won't accept riders without a helmet and if I didn't dress up to please Madame for rock and roll dancing I doubt I'd get spoilt after.
It's quite simple. Are you customer facing?
If yes, wear a tie, you're representing your company.
If no, and yet you're expected to anyway, treat with suspicion. What other idiotic ideas might you be expected to put up with because "they've always done it that way"?
There's an adage that you should "dress for the job you want rather than the one you have." Extrapolating this, people in suits may well trying to be something they're not. I'd rather get the job I want by being good at things.
Only for funerals and fetishes, if you can't do a job without a tie, you probably can't do it with one.
"Smart Casual" at work. Smart externally. I never wear a tie, even when representing the company on official business and conferences. I do however like a nice bright floral shirt with a Paul Smith suit. I view this as "equality". It's never been questioned, even at meetings where I'm the only non-tie wearer.
If yes, wear a tie, you're representing your company.
All depends on the industry / country. I've done / do loads of 'C' level meetings and never wear a tie....
if you can't do a job without a tie, you probably can't do it with one.
Well in this case that's clearly rubbish.
Without a tie he won't be able to do the job.
With a tie he will be able to.
It is unfair that when it comes to 'office' dress codes they only really apply to men and not women. I'm expected to wear shoes, trousers, shirt and tie every day whereas most of the women are swanning about in sandals and a floaty dress of some kind.
I'm the kind of scruffy git that really hates wearing a shirt and tie and feel that is an affront to my very soul but recently got a job where it was expected and so you just have to suck it up really. Now I'm used to it, it's not actually that bad and as others have said it's really not worth losing sleep over.
As somebody else has already said it's an anachronism and quite obvious to anyone with their own mind that you can't force people to look 'good' with a bunch of rules.
Plenty of people who abide by the office dress code look like a shambles in their school trousers, comedy tie and five year old shoes with the soles flapping off, a bunch of keys hanging off their belt etc. I like to think that most blokes with a modicum of common sense could dress themselves much better and in an appropriate manner if just left to make their own minds.... but maybe I'm putting too much faith in middle aged men (like myself).
I hate wearing a tie but it's a habit for work and I feel I can do my job better wearing them . No idea why
wysiwyg - MemberIm stuck wearing one at school. Spends most of its time tucked in so it doesnt wrap around a lathe or something
Please don't tell me you wear a tie whilst working on a lathe... 😯
Make sure your collar's not too tight. Go up a collar size - makes a huge different to comfort.
My old boss said ties make you go deaf. He was making a point about creativity and it has stuck with me. His wife did make him wear a tie when prince Charles came to visit the factory, though
I do find it a bit amusing reading about the people that like flash suits and ties. They sound like little schoolboys getting ready for their first day of school. 🙂 Each to their own.
All depends on the industry / country. I've done / do loads of 'C' level meetings and never wear a tie....
Well, yes. I wouldn't expect a plasterer or a lifeguard to wear one. I'd seemingly inaccurately presumed that we'd already established we were discussing a situation in which a tie may be suitable.
It is unfair that when it comes to 'office' dress codes they only really apply to men and not women. I'm expected to wear shoes, trousers, shirt and tie every day whereas most of the women are swanning about in sandals and a floaty dress of some kind.
Try it yourself. You'll have good grounds for a discrimination case if they tell you you can't. (-:
Actually fair play. Those cats look smart. I'd buy insurance or take legal advice from them.
I wear one when meeting clients. Even when the client is dressed scruffily. Otherwise no.
I love ties, could always buy more funds permitting along with smart shirts and suits. Only times I don't wear for work is when doing a site clearance type of job or if I am suffering from a mild fever/ sore throat.
I work in professional services so it has been the norm for 15 years. Modern suits and shirts are comfy too.
It's a choice like saying you choose Gore over dhb or baggy over lycra. I buy good (high street) suits but crap jeans.
I'd buy insurance or take legal advice from them.
The only lawyers (out of ten if us) in the meeting today wearing ties would be the last I'd take advice from. In fact lawyers are so easy to spot: they practically sleep in a suit and tie. And aren't capable of independent thought.
I'll be in jeans tomorrow. And my legal advice will be as good as ever.
I'll wear a tie for meetings with senior customer representatives, but otherwise pretty much never these days.
The dress code in our office is pretty lax on a day-to-day basis - nobody on my floor regularly wears a tie.
In fact, you can normally tell if someone has a visitor, as they produce a tie from their desk drawer 5 mins before their visitor arrives!
I'll be in jeans tomorrow. And my legal advice will be as good as ever.
But will anyone listen to it when all they can see are your jeans?
What kind of scruff wouldn't want to wear a tie????
Current contract: Every day (usually a bow tie) except Friday for me, almost always with Chinos and a cotton shirt. Fridays are for smart jeans or red or orange trousers with a linen shirt. By choice.
Other contracts: Suit when required.
Ties are smart.
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But will anyone listen to it when all they can see are your jeans?
CEO, exec and senior management will be dressed much the same. Household name FTSE 100 company.
It's not what you look like, it's what you do that counts. I'll be disappointed (though accepting) when I move on and have to return to suit wearing.
will anyone listen to it when all they can see are your jeans?
I would as I have the brains to realise the trousers they wear dont control the wuality of their legal advice
Not read thread but it is sexism in kind unless they make women wear them
the only item of clothing that does not keep you warmer utterly pointless.
That said i would not wear a suit and not put on a tie so that is twice a decade covered.
It's not what you look like, it's what you do that counts.
That's what I was trying to say, pretty much.
Judge me based on my appearance, that's not my failing. Ultimately I'd rather be underestimated than overestimated.
It's a choice like saying you choose Gore over dhb or baggy over lycra
The latter isn't a choice it's normal - baggy over lycra. Well it's what I wear anyway.
As for ties, can't stand 'em. I tend to live in jeans and polo shirts.
That's the key for me. I've always seen ties and flash suits as a crutch for people who don't really do anything. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions and I'll try not to insult anyone so I'll just use estate agents and recruitment consultants as an example. I really don't get ties = smart thing. Smart is something special not everyday wear.It's not what you look like, it's what you do that counts.
I've always seen ties and flash suits as a crutch for people who don't really do anything
I'm a programmer and if I don't do anything I get my contract terminated.
I really don't get ties = smart thing. Smart is something special not everyday wear.
Why not be smart every day?
I quite like ties, used to like them a lot! Must have done as I still have 30 plus and culled dozens of them. Then ten /eleven years ago decided not to wear one. Only once about four years ago have I strayed, I was speaking in a House of Lords meeting room and thought I better wear a tie but took it off once I arrived. They are strange things, some sort of bastardisation of a neckerchief/napkin/hider of buttons which I am sure we will look back on as a most odd and unnecessary addition to our clothing. Can you imagine one in any futuristic film other than to represent an anachronism. As time goes on I am also finding it harder to trust someone with a tie on.... that says more about me than them but ties do seem to be part of the 'system'.
Think I still quite like them, I must do as I still have 30 plus in my wardrobe.
I'm a school teacher. I used to work at a school where the uniform was that every kid had to wear a tie, and I always wore a tie. I couldn't bring mayself to pull up a kid for not wearing a tiie if I wasn't wearing one either. I now work at a school where the uniform doesn't stipulate that a tie must be worn, and I never wear a tie.
I would think twice about moving to a school where I HAD to wear a tie, but it wouldn't necessarily stop me.

