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According to our newish Chief Technology Officer (Technology Director in old language) he was told off by our CEO for NOT wearing jeans in the office. This is in a top 5 FTSE100 company.

We have a "wear what's suitable" dress code. If I'm meeting a customer I might wear a shirt and smart trousers, otherwise it's jeans and t-shirt.

The vast majority of people still wear shirts/trousers everyday though - I guess that's what they feel comfortable in.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 7:20 pm
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I can buy a suit in tesco and it'll look FANTASTIC on me.

*cough* nobody can do that. Sorry.

it seems your idea of 'cheap' and mine are radically different. Do you mean 'made to measure' or 'tailored'? - neither is a cheap option. i'm looking at around £100/£150 to get my suit altered.

If you are THAT much of an oddity (which I doubt - even I can get nearly passable OTP suits) then a properly fitting suit would be an investment - even a made to measure - that would last far longer.

I've never worn one of these (bespoke only for me) but if you are paying less than their prices for a suit, don't buy a suit:

[url= http://www.asuitthatfits.com/shop/index.php ]http://www.asuitthatfits.com/shop/index.php[/url]


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 8:08 pm
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No uniform in French or German schools unless you consider a Quicksilver hoodie (DC also tolerated by the peer group), jeans and skate shoes a uniform.

The headmistress of my son's primary school had never seen me in anything other than errrr, hoodie etc.. I was a little concerned about a gang so made an appointment and turned up in my (now redundant) business suit. The parents outside the gates stopped talking and looked on in awe/curiosity, the brave ones made teasing quips. The headmistress herself gave me red carpet treatment rather than being her usual friendly, chatty self. The suit was a statement "I mean buisness", and people reacted as I expected (and did as I requested).

So yes, a good suit (radically) changes how people see you. Whether you want people to see you that way depends on the context and your objectives.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 8:13 pm
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[i]No uniform in French or German schools [/i]

Well there were a couple of reasons from last century for why the Germans don't...

[i]it seems your idea of 'cheap' and mine are radically different. Do you mean 'made to measure' or 'tailored'? - neither is a cheap option. i'm looking at around £100/£150 to get my suit altered.[/i]

Try finding a local tailor, and just ask - get a couple and the price drops considerably.

But I'm lucky in that I often work in the Far East, so buy suits and shirts there - can't beat a tailored shirt (skinny with long arms).


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 8:25 pm
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when I lived in town it was not uncommon for my local pub to come to a malevolent standstill if someone walked in wearing a suit..

hackles would rise..


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 8:30 pm
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I feel more confident in a suit.
Seriously? You need to put on particular clothes in order to feel more confident?

Not that strange, is it? We [i]should[/i] take people for what they say, not what they look like but the thing is most people will take someone in a suit more seriously (Scientific fact. There's no real evidence, but it's scientific fact). Look smart and you've less to do to convince people. However, if you open your mouth and all manner of drivel spills out the suit's not going to help.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 8:43 pm
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I just wear a shirt and tie to teach in no suit jacket, intrestingly though i never join in with non uniform day like most teachers do. It just feels wrong, and i ****in hate ties.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 9:58 pm
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when I lived in town it was not uncommon for my local pub to come to a malevolent standstill if someone walked in wearing a suit..

hackles would rise..

You drank in a pub full of ignorant, opinionated bigots? Did you feel comfortable in there yourself?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:02 pm
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I like to see a man in a well-fitting suit that is crease-free together with an ironed shirt (but definitely not pink), all set off with an appropriate tie.

What's wrong with looking professional?

stoatsbrother - I do feel a GP should wear a suit, minus jacket is OK, together with shirt and tie.

As always emphasis is on clean hair, clean clothes and polished shoes. 😀

* scurries away to hide in a corner cos I'm bound to get some flak *


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:14 pm
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It's about appropriate dress. If I was meeting a customer in a consultancy capacity, I'd wear a suit. Day to day, I wear a company-branded polo shirt.

I've never understood the need for non-customer facing staff to be suited and booted. Utterly pointless and often wholly inappropriate.

Running cables under a desk the last thing I want to be wearing is expensive trousers I'm going to ruin, and a small noose around my neck ripe for kneeling on. Meeting an important customer, suit.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:14 pm
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I'd look a bit of a prat turning up to work in a suit.

I'm a bench joiner. 😆


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:15 pm
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You drank in a pub full of ignorant, opinionated bigots? Did you feel comfortable in there yourself?

you effin knows it..

(in fact it could have been a pub full of well-oiled but well informed and highly politicised militant anarchists but don't let your ignorant opinionated bigotry cloud your judgement old bean.. your tiny unsophisticated brain might overheat.. 😉 )


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:16 pm
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I like to see a man in a well-fitting suit that is crease-free together with an ironed shirt (but definitely not pink), all set off with an appropriate tie.

I used to like you. 😥

What's wrong with a pink shirt?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:16 pm
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Pink is just w r o n g on a bloke. Hell, even I wouldn't wear a pink blouse. 🙄


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:20 pm
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Real men wear pink. FACT!


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:21 pm
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What's wrong with a pink shirt?

You are joking, aren't you?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:21 pm
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You are joking, aren't you?

I don't think our Cap'n is.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:23 pm
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You drank in a pub full of ignorant, opinionated bigots? Did you feel comfortable in there yourself?

And what sort of reaction would I get were I to saunter into one of your favoured watering holes, wearing a tracksuit?

Cos from what I gather, based on the apparent unsuitability of such places for the likes of myself and my family, I suspect it woon't be all that positive....


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:24 pm
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It was YOUR reaction that would be the problem. Not that of anyone in said pubs. Did you not get that?


 
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I don't think our Cap'n is.

Oh dear! I'm beginning to get a mental picture... And it's not good.
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Should one still put the chain on view?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:26 pm
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It was YOUR reaction that would be the problem. Not that of anyone in said pubs. Did you not get that?

Er, never having met me, how would you know what my reaction would be? 😕


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:27 pm
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Don, WTF is that chain all about? Crikey!

C_G, pink shirts are ace. I used to have to go to Nashville rather too often, and I'd always wear pink there. They didn't get it! I was either gay or a communist, and in the eyes of the South, neither is a good thing, you could feel the quandary welling up in them!

I like pink shirts. I think they look rather good, especially when worn with a good suit and a good tie.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:28 pm
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I like pink shirts. I think they look rather good, especially when worn with a good suit and a good tie.

Oh my god, no!
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Posted : 04/01/2012 10:34 pm
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Cap'n - I'm afraid that to me, pink smacks of insincerity. Probably due to it being the chosen attire of idiot presenters on TV!


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:35 pm
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Oh dear. 🙁

I have some nice powder blue Oxfords if you prefer....


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:36 pm
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I think yellow is more your colour, Flashy.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:39 pm
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In my view not wearing a suit in a corporate environment means you have an attitude that you can do whatever the **** you like and don't 'need' to conform. Managed to make it work to plc director level as did the rest of the board including presentations to VCs from New York to Taiwan and our stock brokers. Maybe wearing a suit is a tax you pay for being a bit similar to everyone else in your industry?


 
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Incidentally, football manager wearing suit = doesn't have a bath with players. football manager in tracksuit = does....


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:47 pm
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Interesting. I'm a 50 year old GP.

What would you... or your mum expect me to wear?

I'm an almost 50 year old consultant physician

Wouldn't want a doctor to wear a tie, well known source of infection (think about it: how often do you clean a tie?)

Would expect a doctor to look reasonably smart, though - or otherwise lab coat / hospital uniform.

Lab coats and ties have the same problem - infection city. NHS dress code is now no ties, or tucked away if you must, and bare below elbows. I stopped wearing a white coat when I was 3 years qualified, stopped weearing a suit when I stopped doing interviews/exams. I do have a couple of jackets and dress shirts/ties for court appearances.

Usual dress is polo shirt and chinos. I switched to boots instead of shoes when I had a slipped disc and a dicky ankle and I never went back although they are leather and most people probably think they are just decent leather shoes. When I abandoned ties the only comment from patients was positive.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:50 pm
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Pink is my favourite colour for smart shirts... and lycra.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:51 pm
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I'll admit to being 'old school', just not keen on this casual approach for some occupations/situations.

Funnily enough, my adult son likes wearing a suit to work. That could of course be due to seeing his father wear a suit every day.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:55 pm
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* waves to TSY - how are you doing?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:56 pm
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Real men wear pink. FACT!

This. Blue is soooooo drab. A nice bright shirt from Ted Baker finishes off a plain suit.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:57 pm
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Aye, not bad Auntie C_G... just trying to shake of the Christmas cobwebs. How are you?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:58 pm
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A nice bright shirt from Ted Baker finishes off a plain suit.

Ted Baker? Are you mad? 😉


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 10:59 pm
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Cobwebs? You? Nah! Are you back to your usual exercise routine now? Leg all healed?

I'm OK, having a MRI of the shoulder in a few days. Been pootling on gravel tracks, shouldn't really but you know how it is. 😉


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:01 pm
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Much of this thread just illustrates the utterly ****y non-meritocratic nature of business in the UK. "You don't look like us penguins, so we won't deal with you no matter how good you or your product/services are". Thankfully there are exceptions.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:05 pm
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Haha... yep I do know how it is... most physio's say you should do some exercise if you can 🙂

Seriously I sat on my arse pretty much the whole Xmas break going from one illness to the next. Back on it now, went to the gym 3 times today!


 
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Are you mad?

Mr Flash.. with regards to your earlier comments..

The pub I drank in was not populated by bigots and the ignorant as you suggest.. just simple common folk with an understandably healthy distrust of authority.. which is undeniably the main attribute of a suits symbolism no..?

I know from other threads that you find it incredibly difficult to relate to folk from a different social strata to yourself but could you perhaps attempt to keep your condescending judgements a little less rude and confrontational in future..

for the sake of me ulcers like..


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:10 pm
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Much of this thread just illustrates the utterly ****y non-meritocratic nature of business in the UK. "You don't look like us penguins, so we won't deal with you no matter how good you or your product/services are". Thankfully there are exceptions.

If you can't beat 'em join 'em? 😉

Certain industries it will be expected that one has to look a wee bit 'edgy'. Perhaps the boundaries are blurring these days or perhaps they are not being spelt out?


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:23 pm
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Go on iDave, just think how much money you can take off those penguins if you wear a suit. I treated being in business like acting, playing the role I thought most likely to get me business. There were clients I didn't work for but that was down to them putting conditions in the contract I decided made the work bad business. I even shaved for two weeks for one contract. hwo did that Queen song go? "prostitute yourself he said castrate your human pride". And make more money with less effort.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:25 pm
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If you can't beat 'em join 'em?

Can't means won't.

Richard Branson, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did OK without suits.

I get your point edukator, but there are other ways to get money. IME we raised £9m funding without recourse to suits. the project that took me to geneva started off insisting on suits, then realised it was bloody stupid.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:27 pm
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I hate wearing suits, I just find them uncomfortable. Luckily I have a job where I can go to work in jeans, t-shirt and trainers. Or shorts if it's a warm day 🙂


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:28 pm
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Google images say Bill Gates usually wears a suit and tie. Google images say Branson usually wears a suit but no tie. I'd like to bet all three wore a suit and tie whe they went to see their banker in their early years in business.


 
Posted : 04/01/2012 11:33 pm
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for the sake of me ulcers like..

😆

Q: What do you call an Elf in a suit?

A: The accused!

No seriously it's [i]true[/i]! 😀

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