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Well yeah, Rolex do in-house movements, so other makers aspire to that kind of cachet
However, so do Vostok. 😁


 
Posted : 27/05/2021 11:27 pm
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Because on a practical level you might struggle to find someone to service a movement from a smaller watch maker.

As has been shown on this thread and others, finding anyone who can service a watch these days is difficult, but as most quality watches get sent back to the manufacturers should servicing be required, which is often only necessary every ten years or so, (my Yema didn’t get a service for fifty years!), then sending it back to Yema in France shouldn’t be an issue.
In-house movements do carry a certain cashet, just because so many brands use ETA, Seiko, Seagull, etc so it sets a brand apart, especially one like Yema who were a French maker, with a history, so obviously keen to recreate that.
Mine has a Valjoux movement, which seems to be almost the equivalent to an ETA for the period, 60’s into the 70’s, it pops up all over the place, but I think Yema are really trying to re-establish themselves as a major watch brand with something a bit different to offer, because they really lost their way for a long period, becoming a ‘fashion’ brand for Seiko during the 80’s. Mario Andretti the racing driver wore a Rallygraf, but his was the standard version with two complications, mine is the Super, with three, which I much prefer aesthetically.
There’s even a version where the white surround to the smaller dials is a wood-effect Formica, which really is a thing of the 60’s!


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 12:33 am
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However, so do Vostok

Isn't Vostoks amphibia movement one of the more easily serviced in the world? It’s certainly agricutural, but then again they rarely break.


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 8:43 am
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New watch day!

Seiko King Turtle “Save the ocean”. Dial is lovely. It is 45mm but wears smaller due to the cushion case. It’s certainly not a big as the photo suggests

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Posted : 28/05/2021 1:47 pm
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Isn’t Vostoks amphibia movement one of the more easily serviced in the world? It’s certainly agricutural, but then again they rarely break.

I've managed a few minor repairs on them, so yeah fairly easily serviced for a proper watch maker I'd imagine.
Reliable - if they work at all. On the Facebook Vostok group there are quite a lot of reports of watches DoA recently. Suspicion is factory quality has gone downhill in the last couple of years. Normally I'd be sceptical because everyone reports a failure but how many thousands work fine with no reports? except I had a brand new movement for a Komanderskie that didn't run out of the box. It's a bit of a lottery because they mostly come straight from Russian sources then the purchase cost and time shipping back and forth takes barely makes it worth bothering with if they fail early.


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 1:59 pm
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@Kato

Nice watch, I know what you mean about the cushion case. I've got a Pantor which is a similar shape and it's the comfiest watch I've got.


 
Posted : 28/05/2021 3:06 pm
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For the Yema, I have seen people say it’s actually just an Eta clone

Yep. Over 1m spent on r&d according to the website and they've come up with a 2824 clone with a modification to the auto-winding.


 
Posted : 31/05/2021 10:06 pm
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OMFG this is lovely:

Pretty

£500 - tempted. It'd complement my Samurai Save The Ocean


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 11:49 am
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OMFG this is lovely:

That's rather nice, but then I do like a Monster. And £500 isn't too bad given the direction of travel for Seiko pricing these days.
href="https://www.60clicks.com/ultimate-seiko-monster-collectors-guide/#">If you like that, check out some of these LE bad boys!

edit - not sure how I cocked that link up but it sort of works so meh!


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:16 pm
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The only downside will be the bracelet.  The clasp on mine is pressed metal and a bit cheap and rattly.  Will either change the clasp or change the whole bracelet for a Strapcode


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 3:01 pm
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@derek_starship

Find a nice old blue Animal watch strap…


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 3:38 pm
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Decided to save £440 and get a Crafter Blue strap for my SRPC93!


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 4:17 pm
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Yep. Over 1m spent on r&d according to the website and they’ve come up with a 2824 clone with a modification to the auto-winding.

Turns out it's quite hard - another company's experience


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 4:34 pm
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Whats peoples view on homages such as Tissell, Loreo or Pagani? All asian cheap tat, or a decent watch with a few obvious flaws - would you wear one?

I'm really taken by the looks of the Pagani 007 homage on a mesh:

But really, I'm looking for a another reputable mid range "bracelet" watch thats not a Seiko. Any recommendations?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 6:22 pm
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What’s mid-range? Maybe a Magrette on one of their bracelets?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 7:33 pm
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I'd quite like something green, and with a bit of history. Maybe a visodate or similar like this:


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 7:58 pm
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I’ve been surprised at just how good my Yema really is (39mm Superman Bronze GMT - posted earlier in the thread). I just don’t wear any of my other watches now, and am enjoying watching the slow change in colour from when I originally got it.

Accuracy wise, it runs slightly fast (but within spec). My Tudor BB GMT is bang on, but has the sticky date issue so is going back for repair soon.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 8:51 pm
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I still haven't bothered to list my green sumo if there anything interest. The Tissot looks fine! I've a white dial visodate, it's lovely but my least worn...I just like sports watches too much.

Just pulled my planet Ocean out for the first time in ages.... Bloody gorgeous.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 8:58 pm
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@Kryton57, I know you main criteria was not a Seiko, but another new version of the Alpinist is due which looks lush. And there's a green version. Linky


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 11:34 am
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another new version of the Alpinist is due which looks lush. And there’s a green version

I like that a lot, and prefer the look of the green one to the SARB017. I always thought the extra crown on the SARB017 unbalanced the look of the thing.


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 11:47 am
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Green seems to be the current in colour. One thing I'll say after having one, they are nice but it's a colour that somehow doesn't do 'smart' or at least no where near as well as black, blue or white. As a weekend or summer fun watch, fine, and in that case I reckon the brighter the better.


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 12:42 pm
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I know you main criteria was not a Seiko, but another new version of the Alpinist is due which looks lush. And there’s a green version. Linky

Thanks, that looks very nice. I prefer that with the brown/grey dial and I do agree with you on the green, because last nice I was looking back & forth at the Tissot Green/Blue/Brown watches.


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 1:22 pm
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I don't agree about the "green doesn't do smart thing". Blue is a bit of a safe colour choice, and black or white are usually the dullest and most conservative picks from a range unless there's something interesting in the dial texture or something. Mind you, I don't really have "smart" watches and I'm a big fan of green so what do I know?


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 9:11 pm
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Anyone looking for a Rolex currently?


 
Posted : 04/06/2021 11:15 pm
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You'll look a long time


 
Posted : 05/06/2021 12:39 am
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Looking at Rolex?


 
Posted : 05/06/2021 8:27 am
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I treated my Samurai StO to a Crafter Blue strap. Not the cheapest at £62 but the quality and fit are amazing. It really sets off the watch.

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Posted : 06/06/2021 4:21 pm
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It's my only watch of any significance, but boy do I still love it - especially in the sun 🙂

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Aware I've posted it before, but not for a few years, and it's sunny so what the heck; It's gorgeous! (Happily will fight anyone that disagrees 😀)


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 6:58 pm
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This retro-style chronograph turned up on Flipboard the other day, and it’s described a having an ETA Valjoux 7750 movement, which confused me slightly. Is Valjoux a style of movement, or have ETA bought the Valjoux company? It’s OK-looking, but not really something I’d buy.
https://iwmagazine.com/detroit-watch-launches-retro-style-racing-chronographs/


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 7:16 pm
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I have a watch on now with an ETA Valjoux chronograph movement.

The movement was made by ETA and it’s a 7754 if I recall.

Valjoux made the 7750 (non-chrono) but not that many I think before getting bought out by ETA decades back.

I think all 7754 movements are actually ETA but often referred to as Valjoux ‘cos it sounds better.

https://calibercorner.com/eta-valjoux-caliber-7750/

https://www.eta.ch/en/our-products/mechanical-movements/mecaline-chronographs/eta-mecaline-chronographs-7754-valjoux-unavailable


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 8:03 pm
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ETA bought the rights to Valjoux’s caliber designs decades ago. Valjoux is ETA, pure and simple, which is no bad thing. As for in house being considered superior the reality was that many smaller watch manufacturers were forced to develop their own in house movements when The Swiss Watch Company who own ETA declared that they would only supply replacement parts to authorised repairers, forcing manufacturers to develop their own movements, you have to ask what you’d prefer in your watch, a tried and tested movement or one that was developed out of necessity.


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 8:34 pm
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I do wonder about the legitimacy of some of these 'ETA' movement claims considering ETA no longer supply to independents...


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 8:53 pm
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Well the ETA 7754 went out of production last year. My guess is that there are a good number of the movements in distributors or wholesalers stock effectively beyond ETA’s control.


 
Posted : 06/06/2021 9:57 pm
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I treated my Samurai StO to a Crafter Blue strap. Not the cheapest at £62 but the quality and fit are amazing.

I like the fit of mine too but find the keepers aren't snug enough so they move letting the end free. Ended up gluing one in place.


 
Posted : 07/06/2021 10:51 am
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The Barton silicone straps get round that issue by having a square plug on the inside of one of the keepers that mates with a hole at the end of the strap. Super value for money at less than £20 but then they don't have that custom fit.


 
Posted : 07/06/2021 11:13 am
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A small, "would anyone be interested in..." post.

Orient Mako III/Kano/whatever name it has now, model RA-AA0011B19B. Bought it at the start of the year, have worn it once or twice, but it's just too big for me skinny wrists and arms. It looks brand new, no scratches or anything and I've still got the box and guarantee. It is a bloody lovely watch, really well made, accurate, can't argue with it at all...just wish it was 42mm and not 46mm.

Drop me a DM if you'd be interested


 
Posted : 07/06/2021 11:43 am
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The fit is amazing - perfectly radiused for the case.

It has transformed a very attractive watch into a stunner!

Fortunately I had a scratch card win that covered the cost.


 
Posted : 07/06/2021 1:38 pm
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My Feiko SKX007 that I posted about a few pages back...

Because I know it's not what it purports to be, I've stopped wearing it so I'm going to sell it. Obviously can't flog it as a Seiko, but it does have a genuine NH-36 movement, signed crown and extra spare stem plus a fully lumed bezel insert.

In this case, would you bung it on eBay as a franken-watch with an honest description or take the the good bits out and sell those as an upgrade/repair kit? What would get more interest/better price do you reckon?

(this wasn't a stealth add honestly, but if anyone is interested in either option...)


 
Posted : 11/06/2021 1:42 pm
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but if anyone is interested in either option

I’m looking for a not too expensive second bracelet watch, but cant find your post, can you post a new pic?


 
Posted : 11/06/2021 2:16 pm
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Afraid you'll need to add your own bracelet.


 
Posted : 11/06/2021 2:33 pm
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I have a spare strapcode bracelet.

Hmmm -how much would you want for it?


 
Posted : 11/06/2021 3:06 pm
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@Kryton57 will pm you later to discuss.


 
Posted : 11/06/2021 3:37 pm
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Mini PSA for the G-Shock nerds:

GW-M5610 is on for £90 at Amazon...


 
Posted : 16/06/2021 9:21 am
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Mini PSA for the G-Shock nerds:

GW-M5610 is on for £90 at Amazon…

Good price but it has been £80 within the last 3 months. I have a tracker on camelcamelcamel for it


 
Posted : 16/06/2021 3:39 pm
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@dmorts you should have bought it then!

Most places seem to have the M5610 up to £100+ there was a "Good Used" one in the alternative vendor options at ~£83 this morning, dunno if those sort of used offers on Amazon throw out the Al-gore-rhythm on price trackers.

I can't see them going much cheaper, I bought a G5600 (essentially the same watch minus MB6) for ~£75 last year.


 
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