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 Robz
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This is the Breitling I was looking at. Not too busy which is why I liked it.

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Posted : 18/10/2022 11:38 pm
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Tudor


 
Posted : 18/10/2022 11:38 pm
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Thanks! Both lovely but the Tudor is very nice. Must be a different version of the Breitling.


 
Posted : 18/10/2022 11:43 pm
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Yeah your Breitling is much less busy than mine. Don’t think yours is too Bling.
I also have a Rolex Explorer II which I do think is a bit gaudy or tacky looking now, I think the BB is the nicer watch, it’s the 39mm that I think works best for us with skinny wrists.

Explorer

Rubbish photo.


 
Posted : 18/10/2022 11:46 pm
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I think that Explorer on a good orange rubber strap would look great. There are a few examples I've seen of the white-faced Millgaus on orange rubber which look really fresh and sporty.


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 7:08 am
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Oh and Oris aquis divers are quite large

There's a version of the Oris Aquis with a 5-day movement inside if that's your kind of thing.
Otherwise, have you looked at Sinn - I guess specifically the U1 or other U-series? It's a stock Sellita movement inside, but submarine steel and you can dress it up (red silicone strap, NATO) or down (bracelet, aftermarket sailcloth) depending on the day. I'm loving my U50, it doesn't leave my wrist


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 9:22 am
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Nice collection Woodster.


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 10:35 am
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Thanks Kryton.
I may be adding to it in the new year…..depending on whether HMRC get into gear with their rebates….knowing them they’ll probably say I owe them!
Anyway, I have a lot of sporty watches, the dressiest watch being a Bell & Ross BRS something or another, similar to this…(really not a fan of it but was a gift so I felt compelled to like it….) - think it cost £2400, would be lucky to get a £1000 for it, but whatever I get would just go towards the Grand Seiko below….

https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Pre+Owned-Bell-and.-Ross-Pre+Owned-Bell-and.-Ross-BRS+92-Black-Steel-Mens-Watch-BRS+92+S-BRS+92+S/p/408000238490?fo_c=655&fo_k=e7bcb1eeb46e8b547d5cf7ec531e30fb&fo_s=awin&utm_source=Awin&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Left+My+Tag&awc=2174_1666172961_1df471baecae5262eeae24f925167d53

And add this to the collection:

https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Grand-Seiko-Elegance-Mechanical-Automatic-3+Day-GMT-SBGM221/p/18400052?lsft=utm_content:shopping___adty__pla___prch__online___stco_____prid__18400052,utm_medium:cpc&utm_content=shopping___adty__pla___prch__online___stco_____prid__18400052%2Cutm_medium:cpc&gclid=CjwKCAjwwL6aBhBlEiwADycBIDZHFJgHcYdK8P8G0HfuRRAm55JK4hXIQg7rBeMZypp8JtN6YJRWIxoC3KEQAvD_BwE


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 10:52 am
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Yes I like woodsters collection too. I prefer the cleaner dial to the breitling robz is wearing though.

HMRC hmmm yes, I managed to get them round to my way of thinking on a chunk of tax least week.... Not enough to pay for a watch but it was going to make a very big dent in my fund if they hadn't come around!


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 11:29 am
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Possibly contentious question but has anyone ever bought a fake (replica...) of a pricey watch in order to give it a long term test of the dimensions / overall look? I know the quality won't be there, but to see how wearable a watch is day to day? Any recommendations?


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 2:00 pm
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That's a perfectly sensible thing to do of considering a costly watch and you can get a h ok homage, replica, fake, super fake which is close on the dimensions or characteristics in question.


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 9:09 pm
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Any recommendations for a site? I've seen this one but not sure how to gauge what the quality would be like
https://www.moon-watch.co/
I reckon the images are of the genuine products not the replicas. It's still a chunk of change to spend on something that could turn out to be terrible - not sure what comeback I would have.
"it doesn't look like the original"
"It's a fake"
"yeah, fair enough"


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 9:28 pm
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I see Grand Seiko have the same strap problem that Seiko do @w00dster 😉

Apart from the strap that is a beautifully executed GMT. I do like GMTs.

A plain brown leather, possibly vintage, but not distressed, would be lovely on it.


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 9:30 pm
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They don't make bracelets that fit any better


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 9:46 pm
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Any recommendations for a site?

You could go to Aliexpress and pick from the Pagani official store list - when you find what you want see if its in the UK on Amazon or eBay first for a quicker delivery.


 
Posted : 19/10/2022 10:21 pm
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Sinn. Not a brand I've really ever or paid any attention to, other than the do a navitimer. I find myself looking at a U2 and cent decide if it's sublime engineering firm meets function, or bland design and engineered b******s. They seem to have as good reputation though when reviews plumbing for the former. Any experiences with them?


 
Posted : 22/10/2022 3:23 pm
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https://ibb.co/c6mZWph

Can any of our resident watch experts identify this Longines?


 
Posted : 22/10/2022 6:13 pm
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@creakingdoor if you're on an android phone hold your finger on the picture and search with Google lens.


 
Posted : 22/10/2022 6:47 pm
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I don't know the watch but if guess something late 50s early 60s


 
Posted : 22/10/2022 8:33 pm
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@neilnevill, I've had a Sinn UX and have a 3006 on order. The UX was extremely well built, amazing oil-filled case etc. I sold as I bought the black version and I now want metals to be the colour they're supposed to be! Yes, I work in metallurgy and understand alloys but, for example, if I wanted a precious white metal I'd go for platinum and not white gold. Not that either is likely to happen!

Edit, it will probably happen... but with a vintage piece as Pt is crazily overpriced in watches.


 
Posted : 23/10/2022 1:48 pm
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Thought I'd add to the thread that a work colleague has started Clemence Watches...
https://www.clemencewatches.com/
https://instagram.com/clemencewatches?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'll let him know I've posted to the thread 👍🏻


 
Posted : 23/10/2022 6:55 pm
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Any recommendations for a site? I’ve seen this one but not sure how to gauge what the quality would be like
https://www.moon-watch.co/
I reckon the images are of the genuine products not the replicas. It’s still a chunk of change to spend on something that could turn out to be terrible – not sure what comeback I would have.
“it doesn’t look like the original”
“It’s a fake”
“yeah, fair enough”

There are better sites for reps which I won't link to as probably illegal.
You generally choose what you want, pay (eg paypal f&f, bank xfer or crypto) and a few days later you get some "QC" photos to sign off on. The watch turns up in a month or so, if not seized by HM customs.
Some models are scarily close to Gen, and you'll pay 500$ and up. Others always look wrong. Speedy is a good example - there's no replica movement with the chrono dials the right spacing apart - the cheapo quartz ones from DH Gate are about the closest.

If you legit do want one just to try out, then you will recoup most of the cash when you sell it on in good nick on one of the enthusiast forums, as people would rather buy used rather than risk it.

I don't condone any of this, just find it fascinating.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:27 am
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Thanks for the replies re my dad's Longines above. All of the watches I've looked at on Google Lens appear to have the word Longines in a standard script, whereas this one has it in italics. Is this something significant? Is there are chance it may be a reproduction (fake)? He has been told it's gold (plated?) but I'm not convinced as there's no hallmark anywhere. He inherited it some years back and knows nothing of its history. Tia.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 12:14 pm
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If you/your dad have had it a good while I doubt it's fake. I don't know the sure but I don't think fake was watches are such a big thing years ago and anyway, if it's lasted it most likely has a decent movement. Longine built and still build decent, quality watches, they are just but seen as a particularly high tier.... Medium high
... Similar to Hamilton perhaps. If it's in decent condition I'd guess (and it is largely a guess) a value of £300+/-£100.

My guess would be gold plated, that doesn't get a hallmark always. There may be a marking inside a lug or inside the case back which will give a clue. I'd definitely pop the back and photo and markings and the movement. You could get a model number, movement number, case maker, details of plating thickness, serial number and such like.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 12:34 pm
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I've succumbed...n=n+1 again. Not even sure if I like it... But have to try it. Pics to follow when it arrives.


 
Posted : 26/10/2022 10:45 pm
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I’m drumming my fingers in anticipation neilnevill.

Sadly, Jody has panned IWC and after seeing one in the flesh I’m err-ing on agreeing with him. The Pilot looks a flat, not shiny and not £6k. I’d love to say then the watch fund continues to build but the cars have just cost me £800.

Feeling a bit flat about my collection I can’t get excited about the cheaper end of the spectrum either (I’ve just been offered a new Promaster for £150) as it feels like chipping away at The Fund, yet I’m not not sure what I’m aiming for tbh and not sure whether I’m now missing a point.


 
Posted : 27/10/2022 7:49 am
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@Kryton, have you looked at Glashuette Navigator watches? I don’t think links to Chrono 24 work, but I’ll try, if it fails have a look for Glashütte Original Senator Navigator Panorama Date, there’s a nice 2010 watch for just over £5k. I’m a big fan of that brand.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/glashuetteoriginal/glashuette-original-senator-navigator-panoramadatum-fliegeruhr-pilots-watch--id18307266.htm#gref


 
Posted : 27/10/2022 8:24 am
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Link doesn't work for me Woodster, but I'm not in the UK, so maybe that's it.

I've been such a good boy, holding off for months and months, while selling all my 'insufficiently loved' pieces. Straining....


 
Posted : 27/10/2022 9:21 am
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OK, I do have a Milgauss on order (I'm next on the 'list'...) and a Sinn 3006 but I don't have them yet. I'm currently getting major hard ons for Damasko centre minute chronos too. I love that design brutality and the 'crenellated' bezel edge...

https://www.watchuseek.com/attachments/dc86_3-png.16977800 /" alt="" />

The Sinn 1739 Ag is also getting me hot under the collar!


 
Posted : 27/10/2022 9:38 am
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Ok it's arrived! I'll get pictures up when I get a chance, and do a review, add it's a weird one in my view. But for now....I give you.... The Seiko LX SNR035 Skymaster GMT Spring drive!

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Posted : 28/10/2022 9:17 pm
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Hmm interesting. Put it on rubber / a NATO for military vibes….


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 9:20 pm
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If I keep it I think it could be a bit of a strap whore. I actually like the croc more then I thought but reckon distressed grey sailcloth, distressed brown sailcloth, or distressed brown leather will all look good on it.


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 9:33 pm
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W00dster - seen the new Pelagos 39 from Tudor? Think that the next one one my list to have a serious look at. More modern BB58 take in titanium with a bit of that Brietling thrown in for good measure imho. Mmmmm

Tudor Pelagos 39


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 10:01 pm
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the new Pelagos 39 from Tudor

In my opinion and with regret one of the few watches that look better in pics than it does in real life. 🙁


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 10:09 pm
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Just looked at the Tudor online. Retails for £3500, which seems a fair price, but being sold by dealers on Chrono24 for over a grand more.
Pretty sure it’s the same watch, the model is M25407N.
If that’s right, then that is very poor from Tudor to try the silly price gauging that Rolex do.

I know Tudor made the Chrono difficult to get hold of, but I didn’t think it was at this level of stupid. Hope I’m wrong as I actually like Tudor but this will really put me off.


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 10:58 pm
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My experience was that ( a few pages back). Watches of Switzerland wouldn’t put me on a list unless I was already on a list. Ernest Jones did put me on a list at the Tudor Booth but alledgedly sold the one I tried on a week before.

Most of the web shops have them as not available. So, the hype is being built…


 
Posted : 28/10/2022 11:16 pm
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@neilnevill

Ok it’s arrived! I’ll get pictures up when I get a chance, and do a review, add it’s a weird one in my view. But for now….I give you…. The Seiko LX SNR035 Skymaster GMT Spring drive!

Do like that. New or secondhand?

Quite also like that Tudor posted by @breatheeasy


 
Posted : 29/10/2022 11:14 am
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Surely people are aware of Tudor’s marketing strategy by now?

You announce the launch of a new product, make it available in limited numbers from the off, get a list going and drive the hype. If it sells, it’ll become a core line and be available enough for those that want in 6-12 months time.

The ‘lucky few’ will either be right place right time (and ‘cash’ in pocket) or an AD ‘good customer’.

I was interested in a Ranger, but missed the initial/original allocation. I’d been told by two AD’s that I’d be lucky to see one before the new year, I went on one’s list (the one that didn’t want payment, in full, upfront… funnily enough).

I was down in Glasgow the weekend the new Tudor (WoS) Boutique opened back in September (for Agnes Obel concert delayed from April 20 so pure chance). I didn’t even know about it, just that there was an AD on Buchanan Street and nipped in on spec (website was saying they had a bracelet Ranger in stock).

It was a toss up between that and a BB58 (in black). They had both for sale (The Pelagos had been sold the day before apparently) as they had the full range for opening.

I’m late mild-50’s, have a bushy white ZZ-esque beard, tatts and still have my ‘lockdown hair’ pretty much unkempt. I was sporting a Sonic Youth t-shirt and G-Shock. I doubt I look like a typical Swiss watch customer… They spent well over an hour with me while I made my mind up (the BB) which they sold me no problem. Otherwise I’d still be waiting for word from the AD on the Ranger…


 
Posted : 29/10/2022 12:10 pm
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Quite also like that Tudor posted by @breatheeasy

Yes, it looks a lot better in black than it did in Blue - IMO anyway.

sold me no problem. Otherwise I’d still be waiting

Indeed, I could have bought the blue Pelagos 39 there and then but wasn't keen on it. I was thinking of buying the NTH Homage...

... but need to remember my mission to be patient and upscale the collection when funds allow. When Ernest Jones contact me it'll be when they have a Black stock '39, so I'll see if it looks better in the flesh in a few months I guess.


 
Posted : 29/10/2022 12:51 pm
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@walowiz I got it pre-owned. No f'ing way I'd pay RRP on it! £4950 of watch it is not imv. If it hadn't come along at a steal of a price and under my nose I'd have saved the extra £400 and got a grand seiko sbge277 hotaka peaks GMT. I might perhaps trade up in time, although this thing has some advantages I'm seeing and it's growing on me.


 
Posted : 29/10/2022 8:23 pm
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I would like a vintage Seiko SUS 4S15 “Military” but I doubt I can afford one.

Some very nice return of Seiko SUS collecton.

One day I will get a Grand Seiko Hi-Beat.

Or some cheap Orient Star.


 
Posted : 30/10/2022 2:13 am
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Interesting articles chewkw. There's a quartz one on eBay for less than £200 delivered, looks in quite nice condition in the photos.

Clicky.


 
Posted : 30/10/2022 11:44 am
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I've been lurking on this thread for ever - love to see N+1! Haven't really had much to contribute, but I was reflecting a bit on the post by @kryton57 shopping for n+1 a short while ago, and being a bit bummed out.

I have a bunch of watches, I mostly these days wear Garmin fennix tracking things but have a wee collection of mechanical and quartz too. At the top of the pile is a 1998 Rolex GMT master II, which is now worth so much I hardly every wear it. On the back of @kryton57's thoughts I ordered a San Martin Tudor BB copy, for I think a total bargain (~ four tanks of diesel for my VW van).

I opted for the Chinese copy of the Tudor movement rather than the more expensive generic Swiss caliber. While it was on order I was inspired to resurrect a 1996 Seiko Kinetic diver which means a lot to me, and I was well chuffed to get it running agin, but the San Martin has completely blown me away. Makes my 25 year old Rolex seem a bit lacking, and it is running at an astonishing +2 a day. This thing is very very good. Anyway just thought you guys might like to know ...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cojacal/52465321266/in/datetaken/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cojacal/52464824747/in/datetaken/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cojacal/52465874138/in/datetaken/


 
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Nice piece @cojacal. If I had a '98 GMT Master 2 I'd be wearing that though! Or rather, if I didn't dare wearing it, better to sell it. My best mate has a 2008 116710LN. Last summer he'd stopped wearing it as it was running badly and he was nervous. I told him to get it properly serviced, and he opted for the full polish as well. Result, he's back in love with it and wearing it daily!


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 11:39 am
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Nice piece @cojacal.

Indeed. This - and a recommendation from my cycling coach that I change tack slightly and acceptably lower results in different races - has got me thinking philosophically. We aren't all on the same rung of life's ladder so maybe if I want a piece with Snowlflake hands it doesn't need to cost me several thousand pounds. I'll go and have a lot at San Martin, knowing the Aliexpress Sale starts tomorrow....


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 1:36 pm
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Good call! Sounds like happiness is your way again


 
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Ha, what timing!

Good call! Sounds like happiness is your way again

Well maybe not, maybe I'm being too impatient.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 2:21 pm
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Oh dear!


 
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I could go half way and buy a GS Lite aka a Sharp edge GMT....

https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/products/seiko-presage-watch-sharp-edged-gmt-spb221j1


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 9:54 pm
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Strap changing question:

My instinct appears to have pins 22mm long and 2.5mm diameter with the little spring loaded bits at the ends being about 1.5mm diameter. My new strap only has holes in it for ~1.8mm pins which will presumably have thinner ends. Are the pins just going to rattle about?

Is there a solution I'm not seeing?


 
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Shouldn't do. Seiko tend to use fat bars, but the ends are the same I believe.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:59 pm
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Anyone own a San Martin or bought direct from them or Aliexpress?  Fancy a cheap beater but having an internal debate about whether a Chinese homage at £300 is actually a cheap beater


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 2:31 pm
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Nearly new stuff at WatchGecko. Some interesting, some less so.

https://www.watchgecko.com/collections/nearly-new-watches?sort=price-descending


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 6:08 pm
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@Kryton57, how about a Grand Seiko Heritage Collection SBGX261.
I know it’s not a GMT, but it’s a really smart looking watch. Chrono24 has a nice one for £1200. The Chrono24 links never seem to work but I’m sure you’ll find it.

Or a Grand Seiko Sport Collection
GMT SBGN003 39mm 2021 Box and Papers on Chrono 24 for £2200.

I’d personally prefer a Grand Seiko myself.


 
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Thanks for those tips Woodster, I’ll have a look.

I need to be more patient and wait for the Watch I get a feeling about - not just a twitching wallet over objects.

Will have to pause now anyway because Mrs K just lost her job. With the above para in mind I think it’s a sign… 🙂


 
Posted : 02/11/2022 6:52 am
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Got to try on a Black Bay Ceramic yesterday at my AD. It's a bit of a grail watch for me, but was a real disappointment on the wrist. Slight too big, but (in my view) far too thick. I think that Tudor has taken on board the criticism that some of the 41mm Black Bays look a bit too slab sided, so made the sides thinner and made space for the movement by making quite a domed case back. This has the effect that the watch felt very perched on the wrist (kind of held off the wrist by the thick case back). Really hoping that they do a Black Bay 58 Ceramic which could be my perfect watch (I currently wear, and love, a Black Bay 58 blue which I would have sold for the Ceramic).


 
Posted : 04/11/2022 4:06 pm
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After much procrastination I decided against the Breitling Superocean and went for a Tudor Black Bay GMT instead.

Just a bit more versatile I think:

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It is definitely chunky for a 41mm (particularly in height as mentioned above) but looks quite small on my wrist I think. I am used to much bigger watches mind you.


 
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Looks very good on you Robz, my wrists are too skinny for it though


 
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I walked pass the shopping mall this afternoon and saw some 2nd hand Rolex with price tag of £32k++. How much!!! I had to stop to double check the price tag again. Crikey!


 
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Okay I've had my Seiko Prospex LX SNR035 for a couple of weeks, time to share my thoughts.

seiko prospex

Seiko position the LX as the top of the line Seiko. Its a Grand Seiko just doesn't say 'Grand'. its got the hallmark spring drive movement, its got the hallmark Zaratsu polished case. But....
I had my doubts on this as its seems a mishmash of design ideas. its DLC coated which kinda hides the zaratsu polish. Now DLC is a hard coating and it should resist the scratches but its not impervious to them. in fact this has some marks on it, and look on ebay you'll see others that are beaten up. there lies the problem. in time a worn and beaten DLC can look cool but ...well....why pay for zaratsu and then DLC? a bare metal zaratsu would scratch, but could be refinished, re zaratsu'd by seiko, but a DLC finished case can't, or at least it would costa fortune! its like seiko are saying...'Roll up boys! look at our amazing mirror polishing, its beautiful!....honest its there...look hard...under the dlc...see how the dlc shines? yes thats the zaratsu, goo isn't it?! Enjoy!.....while you can asit won't last.' Hmm
okay mish mash aside, some pros and cons.
Its nearly a grand seiko...but its not. its not got an amazing dial. the dial has a slight shimmer and th applied indices are very...black zaratsu....but well its no snowflake. Other than that though it is very good....you don't get spring drive ANYWHERE ELSE! and my word...that smoothly sweeping second hand is indeed mesmeric. I can even enjoy the power regulator as it shows off the spring drive inside.

Its Titanium. and unlike my Pelagos this watch is LIGHT, very light. I'm used to big chunks of metal like my Planet Ocean and Bronze C60 trident so TBH it feels too light, plastic-y and cheap. The feel of the crown and the feel of the friction 24 hours bezel are a little cheap too so overall it doesn't feel like £5k of watch. The lightness can be a pro too though, and I am getting used to it.

its stealthy...even the dial and hands....which means its not the most legible. its not bad...the hour and minute are fine so reading the time is fine, but the second hand is virtually invisible bsr the lume and its rectum, and the gmt hand is only visible by the pointer at its tip. the 24 hour markings on he bezel, and those on the chapter ring (it gives the time in 3 time zones) are faint too. i feel I need my reading glasses to read this watch more than my others.

The seiko OEM croc leather strap is thin flexible and very comfy. I generally avoid leather straps as they don't last on sport watches that get sweaty, swam with and showered with. its nice though.

There is black, and there's black. This DLC...isn't quite black. not to my eyes. its avery dark chocolate brown. its warm, deeply warm and beautiful, not cold black. I've ordered a brown sail cloth and a couple of cheap chunky brown straps to , i hope, bring out the brown.

Its BIG.. its 45 mm. but it fits my 16cm wrist. I was confident it would as its the same size and shape as the sumo i had. seiko do big very well, with heavily chamfered undercut sides and firmly curved down lugs, the watch hugs the wrist perfectly and combined with the light weight and comfy strap make for a very comfy watch.

Visually its not as big as you think.. don't get me wrong, no 45mm watch with this thickness doesn't have presence, but its dlc stealth hides its size. That and the seiko badge make it an excellent stealthy, under the radar luxury watch that I'd happily wear anywhere.

Overall...I would not buy this new and pay £5k for it. I'd save £500 more and get a Grand Seiko SBGE 275 or 277 Hotaka peaks. they are same size, evolution cases, stainless steel abd with fantastic dials and beautiful sapphire bezels. I don't consider this LX a 'Grand Seiko' However I paid a lot less. £2100. at that price I consider it just a high end prospex like a MM300 and compared to a watch like that it P155es all over them. I'll keep it. Or at least I'll keep it unless I were to get a stonking deal on a SBGE275/277 or such like.


 
Posted : 04/11/2022 7:39 pm
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I really like the look of that Seiko but can’t help but think that it would look better on a rubber or nato strap. The leather looks almost too dressy for the size of it. Perhaps it’s just the angle of the photo.

Speaking of Seiko I have an SKX007j en route that I am going to tinker with (or pay someone to tinker with).


 
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Tend to agree with that. It is a huge great unsubtle sports watch and dlc'd out to tool up the look to eleven ... Then stuck on an expensive croc leather strap! Ok in person if doesn't seem quite so bad, but it's another mush Mish of design ideas that just feels wrong. If I didn't find rubber sweaty I'd have it on a rubber, but I'm going for my usual sailcloth, ie a NATO look without the thickness of extra strap beneath the case. A couple of the brown leather straps I ordered are also at the beaten or brutish end of the scale too not dressy, so I think they will suit much better. The wife seems to like the croc though 🙄

I like your Tudor much more than the breitling, good choice. Is it really 41mm? It looks almost as big as my seiko.


 
Posted : 04/11/2022 9:01 pm
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@neilnevill

How about these? Less bulk than a Nato, nice deployment and look nice in the flesh.

20mm or 22mm only though.

https://www.watchgecko.com/collections/zuludiver-octopod

Perhaps this one with a black buckle?

https://www.watchgecko.com/products/zuludiver-octopod-watch-strap-oman


 
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Look up mithical watch straps on eBay, the premium canvas sailcloth, and the vintage cracked leather, both in brown


 
Posted : 04/11/2022 9:22 pm
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Very nice Robz. Have the same watch and switch between the bracelet and a Vanguard fitted rubber strap


 
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Yes I wear my watches anywhere, cycling, in the office, Central London, Croydon, wherever. I'm fairly aware of them though, they are under a cuff if I'm at all concerned. There have been a lot of violent muggings for Rolex, patek, ap, VC watches though, it's not just France.


 
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I have a Breitling Transocean for daily wear and an Omega DeVille for 'occasions'.


 
Posted : 04/11/2022 9:51 pm
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Do you people wear these watches in public? Here in France they’ve become a target for thieves that’s enough of a trend to make the national news headlines

It’s cool. I don’t live in France, unfortunately…

I would really love to live in France!


 
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Wear mine in public, in France (Aix-en-Provence). And my Rolex is pretty tame in comparison to the watches a lot of folk have in that region.

Never felt threatened or the need to hide any of my watches.
However my expensive watches don’t stay in the house. They are in a bank security box….which is a pain but it’s safe.


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 6:52 am
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@neilnevill that’s a very nice looking seiko. Always fancied a spring drive. The dlc coating looks so different to my dlc seiko special which is super stealthy black, I’m sure yours is black - but it really doesn’t look black in the pic. Quite cool finish though. You got it for a good price too.

Might be the picture angle, but the croc strap doesn’t suit the watch IMVHO. Seiko have the seichu straps that might work ?


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 7:47 am
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Do you people wear these watches in public? Here in France they’ve become a target for thieves that’s enough of a trend to make the national news headlines.

I've only ever felt wary a couple of times and that was in Rome at two "tourist traps", the Trevi Fountain and the Spanish Steps. I was wearing my Aqua Terra and at each place the guys plaguing tourists with roses and tat souvenirs seemed to take an interest in it. Several of them asked me what time it was, looking at my wrist, clearly hoping to get a better look at it.

I'm occasionally conscious that my Planet Ocean might attract attention, so it spends time under my cuff in crowded places.


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 8:15 am
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Do you people wear these watches in public?

Yes, why own one otherwise.
The only places I’ve ever purposefully not are Rio and Durban and that was us following specific tourist advice about anything expensive at all being on show .


 
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Quite possibly the only expensive 'fashion' watch I'd consider buying has popped up on eBay today.... A Hamilton x-01

The last watch I spent that kinda money on was a Garmin though......

Question is what do I sell to enable me to purchase it 😂


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 9:24 am
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That x-01 is quite a “challenging “ look!


 
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That x-01 is quite a “challenging “ look!

For something that was designed in the 60's for a film set in 2001 it's spot on though....


 
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Thanks walowiz. My wife thinks it's black, in some light I think it's black, but there are many many shades of black aren't there and to me this is a brown. I like it all the more for that, I think black is cold but this dark brown is a warm shade.

Just looked up the seichu straps, wow, but no I can't bring myself to pay that sort of money for a NATO. I've also become a firm fan of two piece straps again as all my watches are big, and they help a watch head sit better on the wrist. I still like a NATO though. I think this thing could be a strap monster skin to a panerai. With the watch head stealth it can wear pretty much any strap from stealth to vibrant probably. So currently I'm ordering various cheap straps to try different looks. I actually really fancy a sailcloth in faded brown and frayed to f***.

As for wearing expensive watches. They are easy to spot once you are in to them and around London I see a lot. Stood in the queue for my zaki zaki falafel wrap on strutton ground off Victoria the other day, spot a women in a Cartier, a guy in a new Starbucks submariner, and a couple of other expensive watches. My Planet Ocean was cheap by comparison. Go on a busy tube and look at the wrists of those holding the rails it's unusual to not spot at least one luxury watch, at New white Hart lane the other day guy at the bar reaching out to pick up his pint had a datejust, guy in the seat behind me had a milguass. Basically yes there are muggings, but it's not like everyone in an expensive watch will get mugged, luxury watch ownership is far more common than you might think.


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 10:13 am
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at New white Hart lane the other day guy at the bar reaching out to pick up his pint had a datejust, guy in the seat behind me had a milguass. Basically yes there are muggings,

To be fair those you mentioned are getting mugged paying to watch Spuds. 😉


 
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Ironically the daily beater I wear to work is the only one I'd be upset to lose as it was my dad's. Don't think muggers target 2000's Seiko chronos though!

My "posh" watches tend to go under the radar as they're thirty-odd millimetre, usually on natos. I don't have the funds nor the cojones to wear a big shiny two-tone diver on a bracelet, but if I did, I would probably keep it in a safe and wear a Chinese rep around town!

TBH those articles that Edukator linked - you could substiture "watches" for "MTBs" and it would still make depressingly familiar reading.


 
Posted : 05/11/2022 10:53 am
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My friend has inherited her grandfather’s Rolex Oyster Date 1550. Dates from the 70 I think. Watch keeps time and winds but the date wheel doesn’t advance either in normal operation or with the crown. Don’t know much about the insides of these, but something a watchmaker could fix or the domain of sending it Rolex. She’s not mad into watches and most probably wouldn’t be keen on the money Rolex will ask


 
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