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Same old story. Cheats always seem to win.
Blatant f^&*ing cheating. He's gone down in my estimation big time.
Multi Billion pound sport and no one wants touch line cameras and video help
Too many times this happens and they still rely one the ref who can not see all of the action all of the time
Will always have these problems until they get some tech to help get the correct result at the end of the game
i agree andy but when your team get the luck it all seems okay. Henry as gifted as he is at footy is in the same group as gerrard and terry, a cheat who never gets called one. those three are worse than drogba and ronaldo.
How the f^&k can he even celebrate now the whistle's gone? I'm no Ireland fan but that's a f^&*ing disgrace.
Disgusted.
****in shocking, gutted for Ireland, they played well tonight.
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There was a feeling of inevitability about this - once FIFA decided that seedings were needed to keep the heavyweights in the competition despite them not getting there with their first chance...thankfully, it didn't work for Russia (WTF were they doing in the same group as Germany??) but Portugal and (exciting) Greece did at the expense of teams that possibly deserved it more.
tails, I agree - but this was just a real sickener - every decent game played by Henry has just been wiped - they're saying he looks a little bit ashamed - and so he bloody well should - I hope he's enjoying his lap of honour.
I am gutted - really gutted.
I'm trying to start a #LesCheats trending topic on twitter. Mainly for my own vanity but I'd like to whip up a small storm.
Feel sorry for the Irish lads after such a good performance.
Terry Henry has certainly gone down in my estimation.
UEFA/FIFA really need to drag themselves into this millenium and introduce video playback for key decisions like that. But given that Platini is a Frenchman, I don't think this will be the event that brings about that change.
Pathetic- look forward to hearing the shallow explanation of that one. 😐
As Mike says, it'll be interesting to hear what Platini has to say about this. As great a player as he was, he sure is on a different planet in his new role.
As for Henry, I'd f^&king love it if FIFA somehow opted for a rematch - can't see it happening though. But Henry should at least be banned from all football for a considerable period of time. Cold. Calculated. He can f&*k off now - I've no respect him anymore whatsoever - one of the best players of his generation? F*(k that. A cheat, that's what he is.
I used to admire Henry's nonchalance when he was an Arsenal player but this act of cheating has really changed my opinion of him.
France are not the team they once were and hopefully will get pumped out in the first round at the world cup.
Domenech was celebrating like they'd won the world cup. When really they stumbled there way through qualifying.
Yeah, Platini has plenty to say about most things - it'll be interesting to hear him justify this one. This is just going to hurt now for the next few weeks - an open draw, getting beaten fair and square - then we'd just have to suck it up - but this just has injustice written all over it!
Again - gutted, gutted, and more gutted.
Cold logic and reason cannot comfort me now.
I clearly saw a red dot on the refs brow.
Sep Blotto was reported to have been taking shooting lessons last week.
Give each manager one chance each half to review a decision on the pitch.
They inform the 4th official who buzzies the ref, who then halts play.
If the played is reviewed and found to be the correct decision the team has to lose a substitute. If the review beyond doubt proves that, in this example it was indeed hanball. Then there is a free kick given.
All very simple and easy to impliment!
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once a gunner always a gunner!
but seriously FIFA should make a statement for "fair play" and replay this one. I know it will never happen but if it's good enough for diego its good enough fot thierry
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Does it make you a cheat if you're standing in an offside position and then cross the ball and a goal is scored? football has never been a game for sportsmanship. It's always been about winning at all costs. It's why they have referees.
If you're talking about cheating, then IMO Anelka's dive was far worse he has deliberately tried to con the ref with that and therefore cheated.
Henry's was an instinctive act which he gained an advantage from. He could have stopped and told the ref what he'd done and not crossed the ball for gallas, but that was never going to happen. I thought Ireland had more than enough chances to put the French out of it in 90mins, but they didn't take their chances, and that is often the difference.
Bad luck Ireland.
It's a sickener, no doubt about it. However after looking at the video I'd be inclined to agree with muggo above. If Keane had been in the same position, would he have stopped? With Ireland's place in the world cup? I doubt it.
As for technology, not convinced. Part of the appeal in the fact that you can get a lucky break if the ref makes an error. I really belive that technology would sterilise this. There may be an argument for retrospective punishment based on video evidence though.
It is the fact he hand balls it twice though! Although the sensible side of me agrees with muggomagic it does seem so wrong especially as it's direct action was to hand qualification to the french. I was hoping they would score another just to stop it having as much relevance to be honest.
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i read about it on bbc last night, just seen it. about as blatant as it gets, harsh.
Two offsides as well.
yeah exactly, unbelievable.
That's pretty bad... Like Muggo, I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to cheat, more an instinctive thing, but he knows he handballed that (in fact he's admitted it after the game), so where's the sportsmanship to admit it during the game? No honour... but let's face it, there isn't a professional sportsman (in any sport) that'd put their hand up during the game and maybe cost their team a place in a World Cup or final... sportsmanship is dead in professional sport 🙁
Thats pretty awful really, its a professional sport and things as blatant as that should be picked up.
The other thing you might want to look into is the Egypt game .... another FIFA copout - they are total ****n pussies. 👿
what happened in the egypt game?
Egypt played Algeria, the Algerian team were attacked on the way from the airport and two of their players were injured, head wounds from the rocks ploughed through the Coach windows. Nothing was done about it and the Algerian team, with their 2 injured players were forced to play as if the attack had not happened. Sickeing. FIFA did nothing.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/3075265/Egypt-v-Algeria-when-footballs-fair-play-died
Its only a game!
its football.
how is this suprising?
Olly - Memberits [s]football[/s] sport.
how is this suprising?
agreed.
I don't buy the whole "it was instinctive" excuse.
I'm pretty poor at playing football & hardly ever do, but my first instinct when the ball is heading towards my hands is to get them out of the way, not to pluck the ball into an advantageous position.
Henry's handball could have been forgiven as "instinctive" if he'd brought it to the ref's attention. Up to the ref then whether to allow it or not.
He/France were desperate, handballed it on purpose, and got away with it.
Now FIFA would have plenty to say had it been an england game and a few idiots had caused a riot.
no word from fifa yet?
to be honest fifa & the fa are a joke
come to think of it anywhere big money and sport is involved, ioc, fia, uci
etc
they are all self regulating and no government wants to go in and upset big businesses like these
a couple of things. Having played footie at a fairly high level something like that is pure instinct. he didn't think, oh I'll just handle this ball when it comes over, it just happens. I've done it many times, and theres nothing you can do to stop it. its up to the ref to stop it, and he didn't. every other striker in the world would do exactly the same thing.
secondly there is no way tht video tehnology wil ever be implemented to stop things like this, the game would be stopped every 30 seconds.
bottom line, players cheat, refs make mistakes, live with it!!!
I'm a non-football person. Can't stand it, dont see what all the fuss is about, but I'm sure the radio this morning said words to the effect of "he admitted it but was told that he wasn't a ref".
secondly there is no way tht video tehnology wil ever be implemented to stop things like this, the game would be stopped every 30 seconds.
It's used in other sports?
i dont care in all honesty.
Majority of other Home country supporters seem to revel in Englands frequent balls ups and actively support the opponents.
So no sympathy from me today.
It was handball but may I applaud the magnificence of the execution, quite brilliantly done, well done Tel.
>Now FIFA would have plenty to say had it been an england game and a few idiots had caused a riot.
I'm sure FIFA would also have something to say if some idiots at last nights game had caused a riot too.
"there is no way tht video tehnology wil ever be implemented to stop things like this"
+1
FIFA like to keep thing equal for all football associations, therefore if video replays were implemented then all those skint african teams would not be able to afford expensive video kit.
Its got nowt to do with breaking the 'flow' of the game. It works perfectly well in rugby and other sports. I'd very much like to see it implemented. Divers should get a immediate red card and a 5 match ban. It beggars belief that cheating is encouraged in football.
Its got nowt to do with breaking the 'flow' of the game. It works perfectly well in rugby and other sports. I'd very much like to see it implemented. Divers should get a immediate red card and a 5 match ban. It beggars belief that cheating is encouraged in football.
Arrant nonsense, rugby doesn't flow, neither do cricket or NFL.
Besides there are many situations when multiple viewing from multiple angles still does not provide a substantive conclusion.
Bimbler, that is the offical policy from FIFA
"Besides there are many situations when multiple viewing from multiple angles still does not provide a substantive conclusion."
I think you'll find that there are even more situations where it does.
"well done Tel" - ah that explains it - you are a total cock
"Besides there are many situations when multiple viewing from multiple angles still does not provide a substantive conclusion."I think you'll find that there are even more situations where it does.
That would do wonders for the flow of the game, lets all stand around for 5 minutes while we argue whether that was a free kick/penalty/corner whatever.
I actually agree with the FIFA dictat on this one, part of the beauty of the game is that it's played to the same rules everywhere, Hackney Marshes to World Cup finals.
"well done Tel"
Lovely technique though, non? The way he just cut it back for Gallas to knock it in, peachy.
clairement la réponse n'est pas à craindre que beaucoup à ce sujet? honnêtement, vous, les garçons doivent se concentrer sur les choses importantes dans la vie, comme le vin, les femmes, et le gâteau. allez la france
i dont care in all honesty.Majority of other Home country supporters seem to revel in Englands frequent balls ups and actively support the opponents.
So no sympathy from me today.
+1 even though Ireland are a foreign nation not a home nation as such.
Can't believe it took all that time before someone said it.
iDave - Memberclairement la réponse n'est pas à craindre que beaucoup à ce sujet? honnêtement, vous, les garçons doivent se concentrer sur les choses importantes dans la vie, comme le vin, les femmes, et le gâteau. allez la france
le cyclisme?
trail monkey.
The sentiment's the same.
Any country who spawns Louis Walsh deserves all the pain and suffering that comes their way.
He is from there isn't he???
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I friend has asked me to email this to all the world cup sponsors.
“If France are allowed in to the World Cup cheats prosper and the World Cup is tarnished.”
fifa they say non
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/19/thierry-henry-fifa-rematch-ireland-france
it was never going to happen, to be fair. france would have beaten them on pens anyway... 🙂
The beautiful game! My arse..my heart bleeds NOT. 🙄
I asked Gillete if they wanted to be associated with a cheat. Here's their reply:
[i]Gillette is aware of the HENRY handball incident in the France v Ireland World Cup qualifier. Thierry Henry has publicly acknowledged that it was a handball. It is not our place to comment on the refereeing in the match. This incident does not affect his relationship with us.[/i]
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Ostrich moment there I guess.
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Henry and co step up their World Cup training schedule.
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He knew he'd hand-balled it. He didn't have the quality to tell the ref. He's not a gentleman, he's a cheat.
It's reported even Arsene Wenger saw it!
Watched game in a local Irish run bar (I have been here 42 years) and couldn't believe what I was seeing. Gutted. Didn't expect to win beforehand but to lose like that is so disappointing.
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[Devil's advocate mode] It's not like either team were/are going to go on and win the whole tournament though is it? [/Devil's advocate mode]
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Can't believe this thread is 2 pages old and no one has invoked 'Saint Maradona' (as he is still known over there).
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meh...wasn't that bad. Happens all the time. And it's not as if Ireland were going to be any good to watch in the World Cup now, was it?
HTFU.
a FIFA source has told Press Association Sport: "There is no way the game can be replayed."To do so would cause absolute chaos for football. If it was replayed, then every match in the future would also be subject to these calls for a replay any time a referee misses an incident.
"FIFA's rules are absolutely clear. Law five states that a referee's decision on points of fact are final. That is the end of it. You cannot replay the match on this basis.
"You have to have a rule that says the referee's judgement is always right."
exactly. not to say that every fan hasn't at some point wanted wrongs from a game to be put right, eg. the scandalous penalty decisions of arsenal v liverpool CL 2008, but the idea that it would be replayed is ridiculous.
flatboy - I agree with the FIFA stance on replays, but surely they could incorporate a "bringing game into disrepute" law against individuals (players or managers) who take the piss and are caught taking the piss after the match on video.
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8370327.stm ]Classic Keane (Roy) response[/url]
stoner - i'm not sure i would agree that he has. instinctive move during the game, by a particular set of circumstances the effects of which were hugely magnified. i would argue that it gives weight to the need for some sort of video review or similar during the game, but not that he or anyone else should be punished now.
I like this [url= http://irishsoccerinsider.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/french-and-irish-fall-out-over-box-incident/ ]Irish fall out with french over box incident[/url]
LOL that roy keane response! love when the phone goes off at 2.40! haha
That hand ball was revenge on the irish for giving us those fucwits from x factor..I dont even watch the programme but by the look of em they annoy me!
The RofI lost to some poor refereeing. I didn't hear many complaints for Michael Owen's dive against Argentina in England's last world cup excursion. Maradona's hand of god was class. How a midget managed to out jump the goalkeeper to handle the ball into the goal has always amazed me.
instinctive move
As for Thierry Henry's Hand of Gaul - a professional at his level who trains day in day out with his feet [i]cannot [/i]instinctively handle a ball during a game. No such thing.
Footballers cheat, it's part of the game isn't it? FIFA shouldn't make a judgement on this game as it would open a can of worms for all the other dodgy decisions over the years.
i can't belive some of the comments of 'Henry should have said to the ref' get real folks.
i dont like football anyway , but its this sort of thing that , well, makes the game shite.