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[Closed] Visiting bus damages gate post then denies culpability.

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Rain has stopped play, curried soup awaits.

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Posted : 14/07/2014 2:49 pm
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What about asking the Swiss people who came to visit if they witnessed anything?

Useless witnesses though, any good lawyer would just see loads of holes in their statements.

Seriously though, this is [u]exactly[/u] the type of thing that puts me off from having coachloads of European visitors coming to view my gardens.


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 3:53 pm
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Er, super that you've got straight on with repairing them, but are there any "listed gateposts repair rules" you need to follow?


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 4:33 pm
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Just use a plumb line, then it won't be listing any more.


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 4:34 pm
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Posted : 14/07/2014 5:14 pm
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I think it might be a bit early to build a gallows tbh... First you give them a trial, then you hang them.


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 5:16 pm
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they've can get a couple more letters wrong before it's too late...


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 5:17 pm
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I think it might be a bit early to build a gallows tbh... First you give them a trial, then you hang them.
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Posted : 14/07/2014 5:29 pm
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Mcmoonter you may earn your living by being a arty farty type but you have a great ability to turn your hand to any other task at hand and end up with a great outcome


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 5:46 pm
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I think it might be a bit early to build a gallows tbh... First you give them a trial, then you hang them.

“Do we find the accused guilty?”
“Aye”
“You shall be taken from this place to a place of execution, and hung by the neck until you are dead. May God have mercy on your soul.
Proceed!”
Simples. 😀
I'm sure mcm didn't actually [i]need[/i] to build a gallows, he must still have a tree standing with a branch you could throw a rope over, that hasn't been cut up to feed the log burner... 😉


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 6:44 pm
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Mcmoonter, just curious, but what do you guess each of those stone blocks weighs?


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 6:55 pm
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Job done! Where's the beer?

My mum is thrilled!

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Posted : 14/07/2014 6:59 pm
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Busydog

It's hard to say what they weighed. There was only one stone that formed whole 'storey'. That was the one made the gallows to support the endless chain from. The others were still a significant lift. The capping stone on top we used a system of scaffold boards and broom handle rollers to slide along the adjacent coping stones.


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 8:58 pm
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You know when you finish building some ikea chipboard monstrosity and you find a bit left over....

Did you find anything about the size, shape and weight of a hinge...?


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 9:14 pm
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You know when you finish building some ikea chipboard monstrosity

Almost certainly a "no" in this case..


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 9:36 pm
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I was just wondering that.. Hingeectomy in case of further visits by AAA? Or are you going to take it down to them and lob it through the windscreen..?


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 9:39 pm
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Josh, we took the hinge out, it was beautifully recessed and keyed into the stone. There's a picture above showing where it went. It had no wear to it so we suspect gates may never have been fitted to the posts. It was a weighty thing.


 
Posted : 14/07/2014 9:43 pm
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I was just wondering that.. Hingeectomy in case of further visits by AAA? Or are you going to take it down to them and lob it through the windscreen..?

The hinge pin was in good shape but the bit that was recessed onto the stone had rusted just enough to expand and fracture some of the sandstone. It has done the same thing on the other side.

OMITN, the listing and regulations? We used a lime and sand mortar as per original, I don't think there is much more we could have done to conform.

We did consider hanging the endless chain winch from the tree but the nearest branch looked barely strong enough to support just it's weight.

The gallows allowed to lift and reposition the big stone with no drama.

We moved the capping stone along the coping stones on an ingenious broom handle roller system where the capping stone sat upon a short scaffold board, with the rollers running upon another board. It was frictionless and steerable.

It was great working with Ken and Friend, usually I do these projects on my own and have to find third, fourth, fifth and six hand solutions using G clamps and props. Working through the problems we found some very simple solutions which made the job a lot easier and all the more rewarding to share in the restored Karma at the end.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 8:43 am
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Second photo , your man has a look that says - put that effing camera down and gies a hand you slacker 😉

As usual good work !


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 8:50 am
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Tesco did the same to me about four years ago. They were delivering to a neighbour. The driver reversed straight into my garden wall, dislodged it by about the same amount as your piccies show and knocked the gate clean off. The driver stopped, got out, dusted off his bumper, then drove off. Luckily another neighbour saw it. The local police officer who I seriously believe is corrupt did nothing, then lied to me and I had to politely threaten him to get any investigation done at all. In the event it was half hearted and there was no prosecution. Tesco were wholly hostile as were their insurers but they did eventually pay out.

It's all bollocks nowadays. The sinned against are expected to absorb the impact and MTFU.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 8:58 am
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None of us had done anything like it before. Though we all had complementary skilz. Ken is a civil engineer whose day job is earthquake proofing San Francisco, Friend is the resident timber restoration meister at St David's Cathederal in Pembrokeshire.

Friend drove up from Wales by car that really needs a thread of it's own.

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Posted : 15/07/2014 9:06 am
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Just a note on using the lime mortar, might be worth covering the pillar with some dampened hessian for a few days to let it cure properly, that and giving the stone a brief spray with water mist once a day, especially if it gets direct sunlight.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:28 am
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^that - especially in the warm, sunny, breezy weather..


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:41 am
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Cheers Honeybadgerx


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:45 am
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The missing large chip- was that there before?


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:46 am
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No probs, we've got a listed stone building ourselves so I've been swotting up on this for a while. The Scottish Lime Centre are over in Fife and are really helpful if you've ever got any queries - [url= http://www.scotlime.org/ ]Linky[/url]


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:53 am
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I know the guys at the lime centre, years ago I went to a lime harling day at Brodie Castle they organized, it was fascinating.

Hora, those chips fractured when the pillar was tipped forward by the bus. The sandstone is really brittle. We have the shards, I'm going to try and refix them with some epoxy and stainless pins.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 10:13 am
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[i]I went to a lime harling day at Brodie Castle they organized, it was fascinating. [/i]

not words you often expect to read on a bicycle web site 😉


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 10:14 am
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Polyester resin, for setting studs in masonry, should work to bond those chips back on. The one I use needs a special cartridge gun but I'm sure there are some that fit in a standard sealant gun.
Usually dries to a grey concrete colour but you can dust some sand over while still tacky to blend it in.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 10:29 am
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I went to a lime harling day at Brodie Castle they organized, it was fascinating.

Every day is a school day on STW. I never knew such things existed


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 1:47 pm
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Every day is a school day on STW. I never knew such things existed
i only think they exist in mcmoonterland where people turn up in their wooden car to help you fix your gatepost that's just been knocked over by a bunch of visiting swiss tourists


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 2:32 pm
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I am sure you did not wish this to happen but you do seem to enjoy rising to the challenge of fixing it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 4:09 pm
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more on the car please, gate post looks good too 😀


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:38 pm
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Nice work, mcm, looks really good now.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:42 pm
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Crazy wooden bodied 3 wheeled citroen 2cv based contraption os a amazing looking thing.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:52 pm
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Friend also makes recumbents - a long time ago he brought that wooden car along with a wooden bike to the Neatwork weekends in the Borders. The car is absolutely amazing up close 😉


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 8:02 pm
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Some people gave an annoying knack of being able to repair anything.
If I tried to lash up a stone gate post using a few old tyres and a trailer I know exactly what the outcome would be - not a good-as-new, much admired stone structure, more likely a pile of rubble and a trip to A&E!


 
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