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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-nova-sport-/182698916717
Even rare, it's not worth more than £100 in my book.
Bids are up to £65k now!
I am guessing that those bidding are doing so for shits and giggles.
You could buy a transporter for that...
If only I'd kept my 1.3 SR.
Loved that car.......just a shame the wheel arches were made out of Coke cans.
I am guessing that those bidding are doing so for shits and giggles.
Maybe not. A 205 Gti went for £43,000 last week and it wasn't as tidy as that Nova
I don't think I'll ever understand these 'special' cars.
Yes it's rare, but objectively it's not really - there's nothing that couldn't be built from any common or garden 3dr Nova. The only thing that wouldn't be right would be the tin VIN plate.
it's not worth more than £100 in my book.
Really? A fully restored, rare model of a car that was a lot of people's aspirational dream car when they were a kid, but now have more disposable income?
While I think it's a lot, I can well believe it would fetch that. We the chaps other items for sale...
There is an Escort Cosworth in my local Ford dealers showroom (along with a Focus RS, American Mustang and a Lotus Carlton), £58k!
A mate had one of those novas, about 25 years ago.....fun times.
There is an Escort Cosworth in my local Ford dealers showroom (along with a Focus RS, American Mustang and a Lotus Carlton), £58k!
A Sierra rs500 went for £125k the other week, that's 2 I know of that have broken the £100k barrier
Maybe the poster could spend the proceeds on a new keyboard.
If there truly was only "500 ever made" that might explain the high price.
The other 499 are crashed or rusted to nothing.
that's a joke.
I was round the boss's house the other day. Her fella showed me around his only car; his very old white 205 GTI 1.9. Totes original. Bit tired, but nothing a good bit of extreme detailing and deep valet wouldn't sort.
"You know how much they go for don't you?"
"A few hundred? A grand?"
"No. Not a few hundred"
He honestly had no idea.
Funny thing as I reeled off £15K+ prices for similar examples, he didn't seemed bothered. He just liked the car. Think I liked him more for that.
There is an Escort Cosworth in my local Ford dealers showroom
The early ones were really proper rally cars and rare (only two or three thousand built IIRC), the later ones were calmed down to make them more road-sensible. If it's from the first year of production I wouldn't be surprised to see one fetch silly money.
I was round the bosses house the other day. Her fella showed me around his only car; his very old white 205 GTI 1.9.
Back in the mid-90s when I was looking for my second car, I was looking at MkIII Escort-shaped things and my gran who was 'helping' tried to persuade me into buying that very car, same colour and all. Nice little runabout she thought. Sure gran, I'll buy it if you'll pick up the insurance tab.
99.9% of them will have long since rotted or crashed.
I suppose they could be worth something to a serious collector, a mint condition SR, or a GTE could be worth something but they were always chavvy, hence there's none about anymore. I guess a 1.3 sport was a pretty limited run?
If you want really daft, have a look at what mint condition limited edition zelda and secret of mana console games are selling for.
Thats a nice example tbf, mate had a Nova Sport back in the day, he crashed it and sold it for £300, the manifold would be worth 3x that now.
There's a lovely one of these locally.
Retro hot hatches in decent nic are pretty good investments these days.
I like this site.
Nova Sport not listed though.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=vauxhall+nova
Saw that link elsewhere at the weekend and thought it looked a bit pricey for a Nova. Bidding was 'only' £16k then.
I had an L plate GSI which I thought was rare, should have held onto it. 🙂
I turned down a mint condition SR Nova 10 years ago when I sold my mk1 Astra GTE. Bloke only wanted £800. So wish I'd said yes instead of buying a bloody Toyota Avensis...
Hes only playing at it
I guess a 1.3 sport was a pretty limited run?
Yeah 500 new. .
I think they're pretty much a SR the without the fancy trim (alloys, sports seats etc). They were sold as a way for privateer rally guys to buy an SR without having to buy all the bits they were going to throw away in favour of proper competition anyway so most of them got welded up with cages and bounced off trees until they died - the few that didn't were used as road so their isn't many, but equally theyre only unique in terms of spec.
Maybe the poster could spend the proceeds on a new keyboard.
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99.9% of them will have long since rotted or crashed.I suppose they could be worth something to a serious collector, a mint condition SR, or a GTE could be worth something but they were always chavvy, hence there's none about anymore. I guess a 1.3 sport was a pretty limited run?
Well, yes, that is really the point, is it not? Rarity of anything that was once common and popular, and is no longer, combined with a desire to own an example of something that was likely highly desired but without the wherewithal to own it, is guaranteed to shove values of really good examples way up.
Particularly with cars, where examples of limited run or homologation models with performance parts makes the level of desirability even higher, because even fewer survive, and cars from the 60's, 70's and 80's are rare anyway!
How many Mk1 Cortinas or Escorts do you see on the road? Most that survive are used in classic competition, which means highly desirable cars are at even more risk of being wrecked, and the survivors becoming even more expensive.
That's why Nick Mason's 250GTO could possibly be worth £70 million, because the owner of a less desirable example (due to competition history and owner provenance) was offered that sum of money and turned it down.
Value is what someone will pay for something; I've always wanted a Sunbeam Talbot Lotus, I saw a tired but solid example on a flatbed truck last week, fully restored and properly setup by a good performance car specialist that car could be easily worth £30-60k, and if I had the money to buy it, I'd snap the sellers hand off! It's a classic performance car, that is ideal for fast A-and-B-road driving, where it's the ability to maintain a reasonable speed through bends without having to use the brakes to keep scrubbing speed off then accelerating again, and I'd have a lot more fun with it than spending the same amount on an Audi or (shudders) a BMW,
Renault Clio 172 Cup is a good, more modern example of this, I've been looking for 12 months, they were generally made about 2003-4. In the time I've been looking your average, fairly tidy, original example has gone from £1500 to £3000 from what I can see. I have a 205 XS rally car I'm trying to sell. At the moment it looks like I'd be better off putting it back to standard.......
Maybe not. A 205 Gti went for £43,000 last week and it wasn't as tidy as that Nova
is gobsmacked. wish I still had mine (one 1.6 traded in for 1.9, which was then nicked).
Love that 2CV Sahara! He's not far off price-wise, Bonhams sold one, chassis no. 0449 for $93,600/£71,753 in immaculate condition.
Hugely desirable, how many cars had a 4x4 system that used two engines?
Hold on a minute people, the current classic car bubble isn't exactly new news is it?
Money is so cheap, pensions can be turned into cash and speculation on all sorts of cars - not just Italian exotica - has been rampant. My sister's fiancé bought a Ferrari and sold it on pretty much immediately for a 90k profit (he's already got 3 in the garage).
It's an asset bubble. It will burst. In fact current thinking is that it's already lost a few psi at the top end already.
It's an asset bubble. It will burst. In fact current thinking is that it's already lost a few psi at the top end already.
And banning ALL (not just new) petrol and diesel cars by 2050 will be a whopping great needle, if another hasn't presented itself by then.
How many Mk1 Cortinas or Escorts do you see on the road?
A bloke near me has 2 Lotus Cortinas
Everyday, he picks his wife up from work, 4.30 on the dot, in one of them. Rain, hail, sleet or snow he is there.
The cars are seriously worth more than his house.
Maybe the poster could spend the proceeds on a new keyboard.
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The ebay poster, I meant.
Love that 2CV Sahara!
Looks like a model car from the photos.
Struggling to understand why a Nova should fetch such a high value no matter how rare or how good condition. The other cars mentioned in this thread have some level of heritage wether a sporting heritage or just a legend in the automotive world, but i'm not aware the Nova ever reached such dizzy heights. I had one for a while while at uni - a nice little 1.2 Swing, cracking little motor in its day, a hoot to drive, but no chance was it a motoring classic or, even in GTE form, something I aspired to own back int he day. I was aspired to own Golf GTI's, Escort RS Turbo's, Renault 5 GT Turbo's, 205 GTI's and at a push the Astra GTE, but never a Nova. It was an alternate car I could afford rater than a car I wanted.
Oh well, whatever floats your boat. The great shame about these things is that they are too valuable to properly drive and enjoy. This thing will forever be condemned to sitting in a garage, being trailered to whatever concours competition and the odd day where it might get out and turn its wheels.
And banning ALL (not just new) petrol and diesel cars by 2050 will be a whopping great needle, if another hasn't presented itself by then.
It'll never happen. Before long we'll all (mostly) be driving electric cars. Classic cars make up such a small proportion of those on the road no one in government will care.
To illustrate that point a couple of years ago the government actually had to do a uturn on abolishing MOTs for classic cars after classic car groups complained!
And if they do, mehhh, conversions to run on LPG (plant derrived obviously, not fossil in the future utopia) or hydrogen (the economics will never work in its favour but then neither do they for £100k hatchbacks).
Bearing in mind were still a monumental way off cracking non hydrocarbon fueled flight, there will still be combustion engines long into the future. Just in smaller numbers.
What gets me about that ebay ad is it claims £20 000 restoration cost - really?
The pictures of that 2CV make it look like a tiny model. I smell a rat...
The Nova Sport was effectively the manufacturer's FIA homologation run of 500 models to allow Group-A classification for national / international rally competition.
Different carbs, cam, brakes etc and not in any way like the dealer specials, SRs etc and very different to your nan's Nova.
...and immaculate showroom condition. So worth a few bob, definitely.
I had one of these. Bought it in 88 for £3,750. Most fun car I've driven. Sounded beautiful with twin Weber 40' carbs and turned some heads in Geneva, when I drove through the with a roof rack on after watching the '91 Tour de France. It's a wonder they didn't lock me up for noise pollution. Wished I'd never sold it before but now I've seen the price of this one!!! Bugger!!!!!
The guy selling this is local to me. It's in absolutely mint condition, as are the other few 80's classics that he has.
All said though, I'd be very surprised if it actually sold for that amount!
Edit: Having checked his other items, he's selling his RS1600i and Fiesta RS Turbo as well. Looks like he's about to make a fair bit of cash, all three are mint and now pretty rare.
OT: You can see my old High School in the background of the Fiesta pics!
Yup. Twin 40s, lovely...
I had 2 Novas. the first was a 1.2, nothing special, but my first car. that got TWOCed, and burnt out (Newcastle in the early 90's, car theft was insanely common.
Then, when I got my first 'proper' job I bought a Nova GTE. My god, I loved that car. so quick, for it's time. I miss it so much. I worked shifts, and the drive on the Newcastle central Motorway at 5.30 was a joy. I'd have it back tomorrow.
Sierra rs500
pretty certain that was the model my dad had when I was a young lad. I thought the little light up door open screen thingy in the dash was the coolest thing...
He should have kept it...!
What gets me about that ebay ad is it claims £20 000 restoration cost - really?
Wouldn't be surprising, it's a car. Just because it's a Nova doesn't make it any cheaper to work on than any other 'classic'.
Even my Midget has probably got a folder of receipts going back to the 90's totaling roughly that (unfortunately it's not worth anywhere near that!).
tjagain - Member
What gets me about that ebay ad is it claims £20 000 restoration cost - really?
As TINAS said, quite believable. It's harder to fully restore a car than it is to mass produce it in the first place. Just keeping an older car ticking over and allowing some degree of decay can be quite pricey.
I had one of these. Bought it in 88 for £3,750. Most fun car I've driven. Sounded beautiful with twin Weber 40' carbs and turned some heads in Geneva, when I drove through the with a roof rack on
reminds me of the time i took my Robin Reliant to Monaco. Talk of the town, it was. I had that Ursula Andress - you know, her off the Bond film - begging for a ride. Couldn't get rid of her. I was only trying to go to ASDA for a pint of milk and some fags...
tjagain - MemberWhat gets me about that ebay ad is it claims £20 000 restoration cost - really?
How long would it take you to do, and how much would you like to be paid for that time?