[Closed] Urgent Have you purchased parts from Euro Car Parts - catastrophic event urgent

Welcome to the forum - an interesting first post.

http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f18/wishbone-bush-bracket-sheered-half-t170649/

*reported*

Also reported- I guess you were quicker on the trigger 🙂

I appreciate you see this as a valid reason to start an internet campaign against euro car parts, but spamming every non related forum on the internet is just poor form.
reported.

EDIT: Damn too slow! But I'm still gunna report it, you know just cause..

Worst.
Spam.
Ever.

Just for balance I'm reporting Bearnecessities.

This is not spam, you may think it is wrong, but I need to find others that experienced the same, if it was you or your family you would do the same, this is genuine.

Should have bought a decent car. 😀

Should have bought a decent [s]car[/s] bike.

Fixed that for you

Why have you posted here though? Have you posted on completeltyunrelatedtoanythingtrackworld as well? Why have you waited 3.5 years to post?

Linda, where do you stand on the 26", 650b, 29er debate?

Edit: I once bought some windscreen wipers from Eurocarparts, they were ace!

I'm sure you're sincere but there are better channels to take - Trading Standards or Consumer journalism (Watchdog on the BBC or various other televisions and radio channels) who'll give the issue the airing it requires and it forces an involvement from your foe. Scattergun postings on random forums is just going to be met with cynicism and - probably before I finish typing this - your post being deleted.

Don't see a problem...not like you can't tell what she's asking from the title; if you haven't bought from them, move on

Not what I would call spam so don't see why it needs reporting 😕

Thank you Nuke

I am sorry I have caused a debate, all I am asking is if others have ever had this problem, I am sorry to have caused any of you to be critical I am not creating a debate, I am looking for others who have had the same problem.

Just for balance I'm reporting Bearnecessities.

I'd report myself if I could.

1) may 2010 was a long time ago, why the wait?

2) non-M series with m-series bits on? you well cool.

Paid cheap paid twice

I have had no other choice but to wait, as ECP did not inform me that they had lost everything up until now, they were sorting it out. I am prepared to take criticism, but I will take that chance, I do realise I am posting n forums, but I just hope that someone somewhere will know what I am talking about.

I can solve your problem, I have a spare WSD commuter 😉

spamming every non related forum on the internet is just poor form

I accept that Linda's applying a bit of a scattergun approach which is a slight nuisance but her OP's not entirely off the wall for this place. TBF car threads are hardly unknown on the STW Chat forum and STW is not exactly devoid of BMW owners.

I am sorry for being an nuisance, this is not how I want to come across, desperate measures rule over a logical approach, and I am now completely desperate, so apologies to everyone at STW, I am so very sorry for causing this debate and for any unease. I just want to find the others that has been affected.

I am sorry again.

I'd report myself if I could.

What was the 'catastrophic' event by the way; are we talking injuries?

I am just looking for the others who had the part failed.

Bearnecessities - I am talking more than injuries.

Oh. Very sorry to hear that and my initial interpretation of post. Best of luck in your search.

I am sorry for being an nuisance, this is not how I want to come across, desperate measures rule over a logical approach, and I am now completely desperate, so apologies to everyone at STW, I am so very sorry for causing this debate and for any unease. I just want to find the others that has been affected.

I appreciate that but you can only frustrate yourself if you turn this into a one woman crusade and I expect you're already amply frustrated. This forum has a large readership but the number of people who have the same model of car as you, will have changed the same part as you, bought from the same source as you and had the same result will be vanishingly small. and in all probability zero.

Focus your attention on the agencies that do this for a living. If theres been more than one failure then more will happen if all those victims tell the right person than if they all try and tell anyone and everyone

not being funny but what was the police response to this?, what did their investigation say about this part, if you have their report surely it would be some evidence???

Hi Linda. Surely your insurance company will be following this up? They will be very keen to recoup any monies they have paid out. They are better placed to pursue the supplier I would have thought.

Cuddy, that's a colloquialism for horse in the Scottish Borders.

TBF car threads are hardly unknown on the STW Chat forum.

This, and shame on those on here who have 'reported' this thread.

Best of luck Linda.

lindacuddy - Member

Bearnecessities - I am talking more than injuries.

bit confused by this: "I brought it to a halt on the hard shoulder"

Thank you everyone 😥

I think it's maybe the topic title that folks took offence to. Maybe "please help me to trace..." would have met with a better response?

bearnecessities it was the aftermath

Edit: Confused.

I'm also confused. Worse tha injuries = fatalities IMO, but sounds like you avoided a potentially nasty situation!?

Firstly, I am glad you where not seriously injured.

If this is genuine why didn't you create an account profile with you're name and email address ?

You can find out if this has happened before by getting pre-trial disclosure from ECP - your lawyer can tell you this and I would be surprised if they hadn't done so already.

You will be much better served by;
Posting on specialist car forums
Contacting consumer groups, like Which ?
Contacting the AA/RAC assuming you are a member - they have dedicated legal team able to offer advice.
Contacting specialist lawyers to see if they have had other similar cases brought to their attention.

To be honest sending off the original part and doing so without having it tested first yourself is a bit naive. I assume you are after substantial damages from ECP, so there are high stakes here.

Taking them to court is going to cost you many £10,000's

Finally this is why genuine manufacturer car parts are more expensive and a quality car like a BMW costs more in the first place.

I assume you are after substantial damages from ECP, so there are high stakes here.

especially considering there was no accident and no injuries.

Linda, at the end of the day what are you hoping to get out of this? Money? An apology?

In reply to the OP...
YES!
This exact thing happened to me.
Unfortunately I died and am now posting as a ghost.

HTH

DrP

jambalaya
Finally this is why genuine manufacturer car parts are more expensive and a quality car like a BMW costs more in the first place.

Indeed. The millions of miles of test, development and validation we carry out on vehicles is designed to prevent exactly this sort of thing from occuring. Unfortunately this costs money, and the OEM parts WILL be more expensive than aftermarket parts which have no, or very basic validation / certification testing on them.

So the part and any chance of proving it was faulty is lost. Presumably fully comp insurance covered the OP for damage to her car.

Surely posting the allegedly faulty part back to the other party you might need to take to court before getting your own engineer's report on it was a bit careless?

Assuming no serious injuries I'd put this in the life's too short file and move on. Taking on a big company without legal aid needs deep pockets. If the OP hasn't been able to find similar cases just by googling I'd guess there are not many about.

Linda, you should try on car forums as it's mostly arseholes on pushbikes on here. Good luck.

@DrP
Awesome! Can you ask my Ma where she put her mother's diamond broach? It wasn't in the safe and one of the girls wants to wear it at Christmas?

Nods @ jambalaya's post. I'm also at a loss to know why this is urgent, when the incident occurred over three years ago. Have you just changed lawyers to a set with a better clue about RTAs, PI & liability legislation?

Making an easily googled searchable blog post (free to do with Wordpress, Blogger etc) about it that allows others to comment on it/contact you might be easier and more effective than posting on here.

My Name is Linda Cuddy my email address is linda.mills290@btinternet.com. I am fighting this on my own, as I cannot afford solicitors fees. In response to the various questions I will answer, but I am trying to trace others which has had the same thing happened to.

It is urgent as I have a directions hearing in February and I need to find these people to act as witness, yes I am taking on a big company, they have the money I do not, I am fighting this because they have been negligible, and more importantly they are in my opinion selling something that is not fit for purpose. I have been naive but I trusted them. I had to take them to court to disclose where the part was, thats is when I found out that the part and all the paperwork has disappeared and cannot be traced.

I appreciate nearly all of the comments, the silly ones are hurtful, I am a genuine person, but all I require is to find these other people

I am looking for others who have had the same problem.

I have had this very same problem. I was gutted at the time.

Edit:
I meant posting I the wrong forum. I've never had a BMW fall to bits.

Very confusing. Surely if the accident was as catastrophic as the OP is implying then the police accident investigators, insurance companies, BMW and ECP will all have been involved from the outset.
Even if the accident wasn't that catastrophic then the insurance company's engineer will have carried out an inspection of the car to establish liability, and if the ECP part was found to be defective they would have pursued them.
I'm sensing there's a bit more to this tale.

Did the OP only have 3rd party insurance, so they're trying to pursue a claim themselves?
Has the OP's insurer refused to pay out because non-BMW parts had been fitted to the car?
And why is this still going on 3 1/2 years after the accident?

Guys, can we stop giving this lady a hard time please? I think some of you are a bit out of order. If it's genuine you should be ashamed of yourselves, if it's not then ignoring the thread would soon see it disappear.

Linda, please explain the circumstances of the crash and following events. I can't see why you are pursuing this, if the part was at fault, your insurance company would be all over Euro Car Parts. Your insurer will have all the resources necessary to take court action. If they have deemed it unviable, I would urge you to consider not throwing your money at it.

What actually happened?

Why do you need to find any others? Are you considering a class action?

Linda - you responded while I was typing.
You sound very frustrated, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to what you hope to achieve here. If I was in your shoes I'd cut my losses and move on. What little compensation you may receive if ECP were found liable wouldn't be enough to offset the financial risk, stress, etc of pursuing them.

I am not only frustrated I am devastated. If anyone is genuinely interested in what happened I have sent my personal email address in a previous post I am genuine, I can see why it is confusing to you all, but I am trying to find the others that this has happened too. I do not want to put everything on a open forum, but I will respond privately.

Thank you to Peter, I am a real life genuine person, I have taken the liberty in putting my problem out on an open forum so I have let myself be wide open to some of the hurtful comments, but when you are desperate you will do anything. I normally am a very private person. Thank you for your comment.

On the assumption this is genuine......
If you have a directions hearing in February then I assume this has been set as part of the trial timetable so proceedings have been issued. Did you draft the particulars yourself or have your sought counsel's advice and assistance on this matter and the prospects of success.
It's a risky strategy pursuing a claim to trial yourself and Ecp will likely have a very good barrister and tear shreds of you, if you represent yourself.
It sounds like what you are asking for is a stream of witnesses to say they had the same failure but without forensic evidence to confirm this, their evidence will be dismissed pretty much straight away.
Surely if you have reached directions then disclosure has taken place. Has Ecp provided details of all previous failures, which should be the most obvious document to request. If they have said there hasn't been and signed disclosure off on that basis, I think you are going to struggle.
Really, and I hope you are genuine and not wasting all our time, you would be better served getting counsel's opinion now at £1,000 of your own money to see if it is a viable claim to pursue. Costs penalties for you are only going to get worse as time goes on.
Won't a no win no fee lawyer take it on? If not, there is a reason for that.
I can well imagine some personal grievance hear but don't put your life and house on the line to pursue it.

I'm not sure class actions are competent.

Trading Stds would be my first port of call.

cynic-al - agreed. What I can't understand is why the OP thinks she will succeed where her insurance company has failed. There's more to this than meets the eye.

bearnecessities - Member
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You are what me and my mates at school would have called a "Telltale Tit"

There's more to this than meets the eye.

Certainly something not adding up.

OP should give full story as it is rather confusing at the moment.

I might be wrong here, but shouldnt you be taking the manufacturer to court, not the shop that sold it? (On the assumption this isn't a soga issue?

OP if you want to be taken seriously, you need to answer all questions, as currently it all smells a bit fishy

I would take the manufacturer to court, however the shop does not know who the supplier is.

I have said before if anyone can help me then email me personally I have given it in a previous thread.

sorry but this makes absolutely no sense, if you are genuine, then good luck and all that but seriously it sounds bizarre that they don't know who makes their parts..

As a retailer, they will have records of who they purchased parts from. Those records have to be retained for at least 6 years.

What are you actually claiming for? From the information on your other thread there was no accident, you got the car to the side of the road without involving anyone else and no one was hurt. Sounds like you are going a long way down the road to recovering very little (and loosing a lot of money in the process)

You haven't answered all the questions though, this place has loads of actual (and plenty of arrmchair) lawyers who can help, if you give the full story (saying that there were 'more than injuries', and going quiet when asked why the police/insurance co aren't pursuing isn't helping you.)

Out of interest who fitted the part? And why the delay in purchasing to the fitting?

lindacuddy - Member
I am just looking for the others who had the part failed.

Bearnecessities - I am talking more than injuries.

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The truth is the part sheared at 70 miles per hour, there was a police car around 300 mtrs away from us the cars of course braked, and I applied my brakes too, there was a clunking noise and the steering and brakes would not work, I managed to avoid all the traffic including a lorry who was inches away from me and I brought it to a halt on the hard shoulder, the recovery vehicle thought it was my swinging arm that had broken, but on further inspection it was the wishbone bush bracket which had snapped in half.

Can't help but feel your response to bear was a little bit, erm, creative.

Cops 300m away? In front or behind? That's a bloody long way! Could they even see the incident? You managed to avoid traffic and stop with no steering or brakes? Ok. It's nice to have a talent. Why hasn't your insurance covered it? You were insured weren't you? Driving at 70 on a motorway, in a BMW, with an msport pack? Given you previous 'creativity' I'm not inclined to believe you frankly, is that why the insurance won't pay?

This is what happens when you don't give full details when asked. Folk get suspicious.

This is weird, even for stw....

3 years ago a bit on the car broke, and whilst it was undoubtably frightening, nothing much seemed to have happened and no one appeared to have been physically hurt.

What are you actually claiming for?? Damages? Distress? (Did I miss a bit??)
This just has a whiff or the greatest troll ever, or a disgruntled ECP employee trying to make trouble...

Forgive me if I'm being cynical......

How do we know damage was not caused prior to the motorway incident.
Damage that finally caused the unit to break.
Maybe you drove over some debris.
This thread needs the accused to respond to your accusations on here otherwise this is merely "I hate these, please hate them too" thread.

I would take the manufacturer to court, however[b] the shop does not know who the supplier is[/b].

Bollocks.

This clearly something the OP feels strongly about and some posts in reply have been a bit too, errm, abrasive maybe?

I'm still not clear if there were any actual injuries though?

Neal, I said bizarre, but I prefer your spelling.... 😉

Think this will be locked soon.

Sounds all a bit suspicious to me TBH.

Linda. What actually are the circumstances why the insurance company has not pursued this and why a lone crusade. What if any was the outcome of a Police investigation. What is your motive/s for pursuing after 3.1/2 Yrs. There is more to this than meets the eye. Maybe you are being counter claiming against someone else ?

Assuming you are serious then taking ECP to court and advising, for example, that they have been *negligible* and not *negligent* suggests you would do rather well to drop this now.

I know people hate others picking up on typos (particularly on here) but in this scenario it is of special relevance.

So Mrs Cuddy (Mills whatever) what part do you feel ECP played?

Oh, its very clear - their part was negligible.

So what the *** are you doing bringing it to court?

You are in all likelihood going to lose; they will argue *negligent* fitting, not their problem once it had left their hands, no proof the part was faulty etc.

You have less legs to stand on than the other Ms Mills and you will end up paying for their nice expensive barristers.

This case will bankrupt you - sorry to be blunt but you will be torn to shreds and then some. They may even threaten a libel case against you for the adverse publicity.

The best thing the judge can do for you is kick the whole thing out at the directions hearing.

If the part was faulty, yes it is concerning and I appreciate why you are taking a stand. If you are trolling fine but taking you at your word I can only say drop it now before you end up with nothing...

EDIT: INAL and you should speak to one ASAP. Do you have legal cover as part of your home contents insurance or motor insurance? Use it - but I would imagine they will invoke the 'prospects of success' clause.

I'm confused, what are you claiming for Linda? What was the 'catastrophic event'? I'm not emailing you to find out.

We're just playing here, imagine what a barrister will do to you in court.

Get. Out. Now.

Anyone mailed for the story??
Is this some way of getting loads of email addresses?? Is there a virus attached to the reply??

Should always replace both sides at the same time!

Would have had a spare to rest that way too!

Parts fail, cheap parts fail more, a lesson you won't forget! I did feel sorry for Linda at one stage but I think she needs to take a deep breath and just think about things for a min

I think I've seen enough.

Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt and assuming this is genuine; Linda, you've posted to ask if anyone else has come across this situation, and posted contact details. To wit, this thread has served its purpose.

I'm uncomfortable with this scattergun cross-posting approach across multiple forums and to my mind a lot of things here don't add up. In particular, you're happy to make unsubstantiated claims about a company but refuse to discuss details, which if you're considering pursuing a court case (or for that matter, even if you aren't) seems to me to be treading on shaky ground.

I wish you the best of luck with your endeavours and, should you wish to take part in the forum beyond using it as free advertising for your cause then I welcome you aboard. But, I think this thread has run its course, and if you are genuine then I'm doing you a favour in closing it. I'd suggest you seek professional help, Citizen's Advice or some such might be a good start.