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The landscape has changed, we are about to witness the wall go back up now, i can’t see any other way, in this modern age, a near 70 year old man who is quite possibly not right in the head is about to set Russia and supporting countries back 30 years.

The next few years we’ll see a lot of movement in NATO and the EU, as well as western armies modernising a bit more, look at Germany, they are about to go full speed ahead into building their armed forces, crazy times ahead.

All that money that should be spent on combating climate change is just going to go straight into weapons and armies.

We are truly, utterly, categorically *can't type anything that would get past the swear blocker*.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:30 pm
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All those weapons might eliminate the biggest cause of climate change - the human race. 😬💣


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:36 pm
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And some of it will be utterly wasted through poor procurement processes requiring overspends to rectify having their procurement pants pulled down by companies who've overpromised and under-delivered. It's like a mouldy cherry on a cake of shit.

All that money that should be spent on combating climate change is just going to go straight into weapons and armies.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:39 pm
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Opinions on Abramovic potentially being able to buy himself a clear conscience…? I am not sure any other Russian oligarchs anywhere else in the world right now would be being afforded the luxury that our Clown in Chief PM is affording him… Chelsea football club should already be a seized asset!

They've not been seizing, they've been freezing assets.

He's gone several steps beyond that and:
a) Giving away somewhere between £1.5 and £3 billion
b) Calling it a war (which won't go down well at home).


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:40 pm
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If we have to stop using Russian fossil fuels it might accelerate renewable development though.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:45 pm
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I think this thread would really benefit from each post having the poster's military credentials explained before they add their thoughts.

I'll start:

Fat grumpy middle-aged man who got kicked out of the Scouts after 45 mins in the early 80s

The problem with the analysis so far is that .......


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:49 pm
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Fat grumpy middle-aged man who got kicked out of the Scouts after 45 mins in the early 80s

I wasn't kicked out scouts, and currently volunteer with Boy's Brigade. Ergo anything naval, I'm a genius.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:53 pm
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Just just hope the powers at be on our side sort this out and this is not taken to the next level. We have a lot to lose. Just getting over covid this is just what we do not need. We need to get back on track.

I have worked 18+ years in counter terrorism. Ran a hostage rescue team in europe, africa and the middle east. I don't respect the Russians much after seeing how they play in theatre at the agent level. That is what scares me.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:55 pm
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Things are getting even weirder, there’s a buildup of 1940’s biplanes near Ukrainian territory:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44532/russia-appears-to-be-preparing-its-ancient-an-2-biplanes-for-war-in-ukraine

Not sure if I posted this before, but here’s some background to the Javelin;

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2022/02/28/how_the_javelin_missile_works.html


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:57 pm
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I got hoofed out of the Air Training Corps, didn't like the horrible polyester uniform. Went to the Army cadets much more fun, now play a lot of COD.

I wasn’t kicked out scouts, and currently volunteer with Boy’s Brigade. Ergo anything naval, I’m a genius.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:58 pm
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Busy much? 😉

Just just hope the powers at be on our side sort this out and this is not taken to the next level. We have a lot to lose. Just getting over covid this is just what we do not need. We need to get back on track.

I have worked 18+ years in counter terrorism. Ran a hostage rescue team in europe, africa and the middle east. I don’t respect the Russians much after seeing how they play in theatre at the agent level. That is what scares me


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:00 pm
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Admiral Matt_oab !!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:01 pm
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This is all great stuff!

Mashr - basically Stark Enterprises


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:03 pm
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To be clear, I was never in the military, however my dad was in the RAF, and ended up in a Japanese PoW camp in Singapore, and my step-brother was in the Navy and had his ship sunk by an Argentinian Skyhawks.

Will that do for enlightened insight? I’m probably about as qualified as some MP’s appearing on telly.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:04 pm
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Quote on one of them fancy suits please?

This is all great stuff!

Mashr – basically Stark Enterprises


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:04 pm
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Can’t, semi-conductor supply is now double-****ed so lead times on fancy suits have gone mental


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:05 pm
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I had a Bowie knife and Black Widow catapult in the 70s - the weapons of choice for any kid of that era. Did 10m match air rifle shooting for many years too. I’m General material! 🔫💪😀


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:11 pm
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Seems like it. Hope you kept that air rifle.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:12 pm
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So jealous, I just had an old Army issue clasp knife.

Making a video for social media in a warzone can be hazardous to your health!

**No blood, gore or physical violence, just a very shaken but lucky bloke**


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:14 pm
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Sold it for a new carpet when we got married - needed the cash! 🤣


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:15 pm
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Admiral Matt_oab

We're merchant navy, nothing over captain here. I don't like to overstate my credentials.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:16 pm
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That is really sweet

Sold it for a new carpet when we got married – needed the cash! 🤣


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:16 pm
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With regards those old biplane...

Although designed primarily for crop-dusting, the An-2 proved to be a highly adaptable aircraft for both civilian and military operators

Chemical attacks?
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I was never in the airforce nor a Chemical warfare unit but I have watched some videos on youtube


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:16 pm
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I played F16 combat pilot a lot on my Atari ST.

I say that as a joke but what I learned in that game and subsequent flight sims does actually help me understand the air combat stuff a bit better!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:17 pm
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Re the Russian spokesman lying through his teeth . . . remember the Iraqi "information minister" telling his army and the world that the western forces were "nothing to worry about", while you could hear bombs landing outside and dust was falling (war movie style) from the ceiling of the bunker he was in....


 
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I played delta force 1 on my PC. That prepared me for most missions.

Whatever happened to the Iraqi information minister anyway? LOL.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:18 pm
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Comical Ali? He was hilarious.

Then he got hung.
No he didn't!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:20 pm
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I hadn’t even considered the older part of the CV with F-117 Nighthawk. I was even able to use that jet for air to air missions I’ll have you know


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:20 pm
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Ex military aviator. Operated in Iraq,Afghan,Sierra Leone, Balkans, East Timor.

No idea what the army get up to once I threw them out of the back!

One guy I play cricket with is a Russian Speaking Film Journo currently out there in Ukraine. Also my cycling buddy has a Ukrainian wife, whose parents are in Crimea, plus lots of friends/relatives all over the country.


 
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Comical Ali you’re thinking of. Chemical Ali was someone entirely different and much more sinister. Comical Ali survived and now lives a quiet retirement in the UAE.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:22 pm
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Lord Flashheart, is that you?

Ex military aviator. Operated in Iraq,Afghan,Sierra Leone, Balkans, East Timor.

No idea what the army get up to once I threw them out of the back!

One guy I play cricket with is a Russian Speaking Film Journo currently out there in Ukraine. Also my cycling buddy has a Ukrainian wife, whose parents are in Crimea, plus lots of friends/relatives all over the country


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:23 pm
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Oh yeah, haha. Well at least the horrible turd got his comeuppance. Is the other one working in PR?

Thanks for the correction.

Comical Ali you’re thinking of. Chemical Ali was someone entirely different and much more sinister. Comical Ali survived and now lives a quiet retirement in the UAE.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:24 pm
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Experience? Oh yes, you name it, not only have I seen the film Top Gun 6 times, I've also built a 1:72 scale Avro Vulcan


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:26 pm
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The only movie I watch is hotshots 1


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:28 pm
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Well my prediction of 3 days and out was all wrong!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:29 pm
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Former ammunition technical officer spending much of my career in counter terrorist IEDD and weapons intelligence.  Now retired and watching day time TV.  My CV is not especially useful at this stage of the conflict, but I have a few top tips for the yellow and blue team when they enter the insurgency phase.


 
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You will be busy when this is over


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:30 pm
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Well, I never expected to see this, but a Tory MP has used Parliamentary privilege to name London lawyers working on behalf of Russian oligarchs and the Russian regime.

https://abovethelaw.com/2022/03/going-ahead-and-naming-names-of-lawyers-working-for-russian-regime/


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:33 pm
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I remember reading my dad's old notebooks and aide memoires as a kid. He was RE EOD way back when for a bit, grew up mostly in germany when he went armoured. Learnt a lot about the things that went bang from him, but I was more interested in the armour if I was honest.

Former ammunition technical officer spending much of my career in counter terrorist IEDD and weapons intelligence. Now retired and watching day time TV. My CV is not especially useful at this stage of the conflict, but I have a few top tips for the yellow and blue team when they enter the insurgency phase


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:35 pm
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Fair play to the C4 news presenter for essentially telling the Russian MP to FO after her bleeding heart story.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:38 pm
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@CountZero fair one. Still think he's a turd, but that's for other reasons (he voted against the waiving of fees for foreign commonwealth service leavers).

But certainly shines a light on the race to profit from the sanctions.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:38 pm
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Fair play to the C4 news presenter for essentially telling the Russian MP to FO after her bleeding heart story.

What's this?


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:40 pm
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My twitter just told me it’s Gorbachev’s 91st birthday today.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:41 pm
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@shermer75

This one I think. Starts at around 8.40.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 10:42 pm
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Turns out it’s not just a mischievous former spy getting up to his high-jinks but has in fact been a decade+ long plan to destabilise any democratic government.

No? Really?


 
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