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certain weapons from ever being in Ukraine. Also that Russia accepts Zelensky as the legit president – is this not a major development?

Because they've been so trustworthy so far, there's absolutely no way Russia will suddenly accept him when their sole aim here is to displace him...


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 6:57 pm
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Day 7 now. Kharkiv will face a terrible decision soon - withdraw or fight it out. Have seen some experts saying might be better to trade space for time.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:00 pm
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Airvent - yes agreed, totally untrustworthy, but interesting they’ve even felt the need to say it.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:02 pm
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I am no economist or military expert or nuanced politician, but what will Putin achieve with this war now.

If in another month the Russian Army has destroyed everything and occupied the whole of Ukraine, what will be left

Quite a lot actually.

The largest natural gas reserves in Europe, after Russia. These are currently pretty much untapped, ironically the Ukraine could be the solution for removing our reliance on Russian gas, which makes we wonder if this is the reason Putin is so keen to get his grubby hands on the Ukraine.

On top of that they have a massive amount of precious metals including huge lithium fields that will become increasingly important for EV production. They are also one of the worlds top produces of wheat and corn.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:09 pm
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Guerrilla warfare is their only hope really. Nato won't put boots on the ground or planes in the air so zero point in waiting for that to happen.
What the Ukrainian defence force needs are thousands of blonde girls with beanies and some real munitions.
Laws, AT4 rockets, Claymore mines RPGs, toyota hilux with a 50cal
You cannot build a defensive position and expect to hold it with TU80 tanks, guided missiles and multiple rockets systems in front of you

The infantry will take a hit, run away, call in artillery, pound the quickly built fortifications into dust tjen walk on by.

Let convergence take effect, make every junction, corner, choke point a kill zone. Use small groups of 4 to 6 individuals to decimate foot soldiers from drains, ruins, Tower blocks then run like hell. Use local knowledge, over lapping ambush sites, halt vehicles then use them ad barricades.

Drawing a metaphorical line in the sand is going yo get lots of mortar rounds dropping on your head. If you are 50meters away up a back alley your safe enough.

The usa could airfreight tons of hardware rrally quickly in a B1 lancer, modify the bomb bay then mach1 it over the Atlantic. Land in Poland, meet beanie girl at tge border with a few of her mates. Hand over the goods 5 minutes training then away into the night

Ruskis might hit a couple of vehicles e by chance but i would expect the majority to get through.

Kill enough Russian soldiers and then retreat in stages, let the next wave come through. Driving a main battle tank up a road does not constitute taking a city. You need hundreds of troops to do that and tanks in town are vulnerable to ambush being rather large and 50t. You dont need to destroy the hull, just pop one track off, which is do able for a blonde chick with a beanie, and a rocket launcher.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:15 pm
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Georgia has just applied for EU membership


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:16 pm
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If Russia gets away with this I think they are very likely to be next


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:17 pm
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. They are also one of the worlds top produces of wheat and corn.

Not this year they won't be. Soon be time to plant this year's crop, and that may not be happening.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:19 pm
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BBC reporting that Russia has issued demands for peace relating to banning certain weapons from ever being in Ukraine. Also that Russia accepts Zelensky as the legit president – is this not a major development?

Would be a major reversal of previous demands to take NATO membership off the table, and to recognise Russian ownership of Crimea, if those are not included.

If so, Russia wants out, quickly, and this may be the point at which they can apply maximum military pressure, with the axe hanging over Kharkiv, Mariupol, Odessa.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:19 pm
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big increases reported in ruble / crypto transactions


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:21 pm
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There's a whiff of Mark Francois in some of the posts above


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:23 pm
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Kill enough Russian soldiers and then retreat in stages, let the next wave come through.

For someone on a mountain bike forum you've given a disturbing amount of thought on how to efficiently murder a lot of people.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:23 pm
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A lot of Call of Duty tactics being recited as the way ahead, lets hope Ukrainians are up to speed on the latest tactics for CoD and Battlefield!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:26 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/french-far-right-leader-marine-le-pen-forced-to-defend-putin-links

I mentioned it earlier but I think we need to take this election tampering/far-right promoting thing a bit more seriously from now on.

Turns out it's not just a mischievous former spy getting up to his high-jinks but has in fact been a decade+ long plan to destabilise any democratic government.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:26 pm
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While he was in various forms of the Communist Party in the UK he was known for wanting stronger connections with Russia rather than Europe,

The rest of the Stop the War lineup contains more Russophiles - one of them used to be in the Communist Party of East Germany, another is an academic whose list of publications seems somewhat anti-NATO, soft on Putin. To balance that out, obviously, there is Corbs, who we are told is a historically centre-left politician 🙂


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:26 pm
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That Stop the war seminar pretty much sums up why the tories have had a clear run at this country for years, and will do for many more, how Diane Abbot is still a sitting MP is baffling.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:34 pm
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Marine Le-Pen needs punted in the chuff all the way to Russia, and while I’m on a rant can we also punt Aaron Banks, Nigel Farage and associated lackeys to the ****ing moon.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:37 pm
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On the subject of removing Putin it's the only way for a more stable Russian contribution to the world I'm not talking forceful removal by non Russian force.
internal removal is probably the only way i can see this ending without NATO conflict and let's be honest here that's a global war spreading from the east.

If Putin takes Ukraine Poland won't let a huge Russian build up on the boarder happen it would be a tinder box just waiting to go up.
The sanctions are working and will cripple the average folk of Russia before Putin feels the pain they are working just not fast enough.

It's a shame Israel won't had over iron dome systems to keep the sky's clear that would help.

All in a terrible situation of 1 man's doing


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:40 pm
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It’s a shame Israel won’t had over iron dome systems to keep the sky’s clear that would help.

Speaking of Israel, I didn't even realise they were now reliant on Russia:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/israel-tries-to-balance-backing-for-ukrainians-and-not-offending-russia

At the risk of sounding like I have to check under the bed every night to see if Putin is hiding there, I think he's been moving all the pieces into place for a long time.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:46 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/russian-propaganda-anti-imperialist-left-vladimir-putin

We must confront Russian propaganda – even when it comes from those we respect
George Monbiot

Talks about Pilger, Murray and others as regards echoing Putin’s lines relating to this (don’t call it a) war.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:53 pm
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To balance that out, obviously, there is Corbs, who we are told is a historically centre-left politician 🙂

Tireless campaigner for peace as well


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:55 pm
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Georgia has just applied for EU membership

Amazing news


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 7:57 pm
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When do we apply? Or do we just keep carrying on down the track we are on… dividing ourselves off from the rest of Europe and sticking with Putin’s plan?


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:02 pm
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@Kelvin

That strikes home for me. I used to have a lot of respect for Craig Murray for calling out a despot who boiled political opponents alive and losing his ambassadorship because of it.*

Now his stuff reads as if he's auditioning for RT.

*Actually, thinking about it, calling out someone for boiling people alive isn't a particularly high bar but apparently it was still too high for Blair.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:04 pm
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5 countries voted against at the UN, including Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.

Thats quite a roques gallery of shithole countries that would be pretty far down my list of place to live

As for Israel, is this the same country that the west has tirelessly and unwaveringly supported, most of the time when they’ve been in the wrong?


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:06 pm
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It's horrible seeing trained army's throwing hand grandes at old people. C4 news
Oh and the Ukraine people are putting the Russian tanks on ebay apparently.
Humans eh


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:10 pm
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"There’s a whiff of Mark Francois in some of the posts above"

Yep, let's all strap rocket launchers to our Santa Cruz Bronsons and go down and sort them all out.

(Some of the comments from the ex military posters is quite informative though.)


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:15 pm
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The number of ways that the Russian people are being given the message that the outside world is against the (don’t call it a) war just keeps increasing all the time…

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1499096871557640197?s=21


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:18 pm
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After talk about young Russian protestors…

https://twitter.com/aperegarom/status/1499067632749797385?s=21


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:23 pm
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Oh and the Ukraine people are putting the Russian tanks on ebay apparently.

It's a tragedy but you have to admire the humour! That's about as Slav as you can get.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:24 pm
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The landscape has changed, we are about to witness the wall go back up now, i can't see any other way, in this modern age, a near 70 year old man who is quite possibly not right in the head is about to set Russia and supporting countries back 30 years.

The next few years we'll see a lot of movement in NATO and the EU, as well as western armies modernising a bit more, look at Germany, they are about to go full speed ahead into building their armed forces, crazy times ahead.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:25 pm
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Just been watching Matt Frie's interview of an Russian MP, adamant that they are on a mission of de-nazification.

I can't believe he held it together (just), I'm in bits.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:26 pm
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I wonder how much added defence spending will stimulate other economies?


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:29 pm
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For someone on a mountain bike forum you’ve given a disturbing amount of thought on how to efficiently murder a lot of people.

Clearly knows what he is talking about!

Anyway, Vlad’s a bit of a judo fanboy himself… He must have discussed genocide tactics with a few of his chums on errant threads on Judo forums by now, surely…? 🤔


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:36 pm
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And for those who don't ebay their captured tanks, they are tax exempt!:

“Have you captured a Russian tank or armored personnel carrier and wondering how to report it? Keep calm and keep defending the Fatherland!” read a statement from the Ukrainian National Agency for the Prevention of Corruption (NACP) seen by Interfax Ukraine.

“It is not necessary to declare captured Russian tanks and other equipment because their cost does not exceed 100 living wages (248,100 UAH),” the agency explained. The sum is equivalent to approximately $8,300.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:51 pm
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I mentioned it earlier but I think we need to take this election tampering/far-right promoting thing a bit more seriously from now on

Definitely!


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 8:53 pm
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Get a bid in early or use a bid sniper?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265575569490?hash=item3dd5899852:g:0lYAAOSwF21iH7B~


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:00 pm
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After talk about young Russian protestors…

Wow, what courage and spirit!  That's not a good look for the Kremlin - two heavies in full riot gear dragging away a tiny frail hero of the great patriotic war.  If they get to see it ( a big if, I know) that's got to make a lot of Russians feel uneasy? I like to think that's the true Russia, not Putin and his cronies,


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:00 pm
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Yep all the while we are putting constraints on protest in this country 😐


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:04 pm
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For someone on a mountain bike forum you’ve given a disturbing amount of thought on how to efficiently murder a lot of people.

Doesn’t require very much thought at all, history provides us with plenty of vivid examples of guerrilla and asymmetric warfare, hit-and-run tactics, and insurgents using IED’s and suchlike.
In Stalingrad battles were fought underground by blowing holes through interconnected cellars, tanks trying to work their way along narrow streets were attacked from above and behind - blow a track off with a strategically placed explosive, it’s dead in the water.
With increasing numbers of St Javelin being provided, accurate and effective attacks on armoured columns can be carried out from two miles away, and it’s a fire and forget missile, and not a one-shot launcher either.

Modern iconography at work…


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:13 pm
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The Javelin! That's something I knew nothing about 6 days ago...


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:17 pm
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Dunno if this is one of the ones on eBay, but these lads look to be having some fun with their new whip!

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1499059588779368449?s=20&t=xv7oKcam6U0mvift5D9OYA


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:19 pm
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STW really need to stop this bollocks and stop our forum providing a weird release for these plonkers.

Because censorship has been shown to work so well, yeah…?


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:20 pm
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How do you know that some elements of NATO aren't trying to figure out how they could train and supply an insurgency at short notice?

As for the suggestions, not pie in the sky, that's pretty much what NATO have faced in various guises for the last 2 decades at least; it looks they're kind already there from some of the videos I've seen, Ukrainian SF attacking the flanks of columns etc.


 
Posted : 02/03/2022 9:22 pm
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Anyway…

Opinions on Abramovic potentially being able to buy himself a clear conscience…? I am not sure any other Russian oligarchs anywhere else in the world right now would be being afforded the luxury that our Clown in Chief PM is affording him… Chelsea football club should already be a seized asset!

Dunno if this is one of the ones on eBay, but these lads look to be having some fun with their new whip!

Don’t think I’ve seen someone looking so deservedly smug as the guy filming it in a long time… Best thing I’ve seen all day! Brilliant! 😂


 
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