The personal insults are...tedious, irrelevant and boring.
At least binner's posts have some humour to them.
The truth is...nothing that anyone posts to this thread or any other on STW or anywhere else will cause anything to change.
It's nothing more than hiss & wind.
Carry on...
Looks like you and me a few years back Binners 🙂
At least binner’s posts have some humour to them.
He's the only one who's allowed. The rest of us get warnings and our posts deleted.
And again, it only seems that way cause he's on your team and your team is about to win.
rone
Full Member
Ha ha to the Scrooge meme.I’m only pushing back at what is being put out there in debate! If it wasn’t being repeated there would be no need for my existence.
I think it's a friendly nudge is all mate. I had a chuckle when I first saw it because you could change the wording to suit and make it apply to pretty much any of us on here.
You, me, all of us are of a mind to hammer our opinions/thoughts home like a nail on occasion. I sure as hell have done in at least 10 posts in the last 24 hours.😉
I had a chuckle when I first saw it because you could change the wording to suit and make it apply to pretty much any of us on here.
Mine would be:
You boy!
Has BruceWee mentioned that Nigel Farage is hiding under your bed yet today?
Scottish Labour candidate caught out on door camera as he tells a voter his party 'didn't bother at all' in 2019 in order to let the Tories win the Aberdeen South seat. 'I was hoping that [the Tory candidate] could win it,
https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1805979339944513793
Too tip for forumites – you can scroll past anything you don’t want to read.
Does that include reading it to decide if you want to read it or not?
Scottish Labour candidate caught out on door camera as he tells a voter his party ‘didn’t bother at all’ in 2019 in order to let the Tories win the Aberdeen South seat. ‘I was hoping that [the Tory candidate] could win it,
<20 SNP seats in 2024.
Lab/Con coalition (but not an official coalition) in the Scottish parliament in 2026
Either independence or dissolution of the Scottish parliament by 2030.
Labour not putting up a fight against “Farage” in Clacton Labour officials said to be upset that Jovan Owusu-Nepaul was gaining traction for viral social media posts
Oops…….
Does that include reading it to decide if you want to read it or not?
There's a couple of "comrades" on this thread I haven't read for quite a while. It's honestly quite refreshing to not get drawn into the relentless misery they bestow upon the [singletrack] world echo chamber
Not that I avoid all at that end of the political spectrum, there's a few heavily left leaning forumites I'll happily read to see their point of view and really value their opinion and perspective.
Scottish Labour candidate caught out on door camera as he tells a voter his party ‘didn’t bother at all’ in 2019 in order to let the Tories win the Aberdeen South seat. ‘I was hoping that [the Tory candidate] could win it,
Yup - the labour / tory pact in Scotland that resulted in 10 extra tory MPS that saved Mays premiership and thus helped create brexit. Watching labour folk cheering tory wins was a weird thing to see to say the least. Shows how lost labour in Scotland became
BruceWee
Mine would be:You boy!Has BruceWee mentioned that Nigel Farage is hiding under your bed yet today?
Lol, it could be. 😁
Mine would have to bev something like:
You boy!
Has Poopscoop mentioned AGAIN that we basically all agree on everything because I might have missed it during the argument I was having.
😁
PSA: Sunak/Starmer debate on in 15mins.
I caught about 10 minutes of this tonight (it was all I could stand before hurling a cat through the TV). As much as it pains me to say it, Sunak demolished Starmer. Starmer sounded rattled and Sunak knew it, he had that smug shit-eating grin on his face and talked over Starmer at every opportunity.
If I were coming to this cold with no knowledge of political history, hands down I'd be voting for Sunak.
This feels very much like '97
Except without the hope
This feels very much like ’97
Except without the hope
Don't think there's been a truer word spoken on this thread.
Cougar
Full Member
PSA: Sunak/Starmer debate on in 15mins.I caught about 10 minutes of this tonight (it was all I could stand before hurling a cat through the TV). As much as it pains me to say it, Sunak demolished Starmer. Starmer sounded rattled and Sunak knew it, he had that smug shit-eating grin on his face and talked over Starmer at every opportunity.
If I were coming to this cold with no knowledge of political history, hands down I’d be voting for Sunak.
I hear you but we are bloody lucky the populous do know both of them. The snap polling afterwards has given it a 50/50. When you know the shit fest Sunak has presided over and his petulant nature his alpha male routine simply appears overtly aggressive and outright desperate.
All Starmer had to do tonight was not **** it up and he didn't. Starmer just doesn't relish a street fight in the way Rayner does. Will he make a better PM than Sunak though? I'm bloody convinced he will.
I bet the polling doesn't move in any meaningful way at all. There was no knockout blow, for Starmer that's ok, desirable in fact, for Sunak it's extinction.👍
Caher
Full Member
There’s a recent picture of TJ on the haircut thread. Or the Lion King.
Hahaha! I'm glad I read that, now I can go to kip with a smile on my face. 😁
vazaha
Full Member
This feels very much like ’97Except without the hope
You've got to remember though that Blair was intensely disliked by many, even back then, both him personally and some of his policies. It didn't seem as bad as now because social media has amplified the hell out of everything but it was there.
For me though, there was hope then and there is now. The theme to that era of Labour is just as relevant now as then, "things can only get better!"
it’s completely alien to me how Scottish Labour ever managed to think that was even remotely a good idea.
Labour in Scotland have a tribal hatred for the SNP for taking all their votes. Its caused them to collectively loose their moral compass. The only Scottish labour po0licy is is SNP baaaaaaaaaaaaad. Labours behaviour collectively over the 14 years since they lost power to the SNP has been that of a toddler sulking and the electorate have pickled up on that and stopped voting for them. labour used to take almost all the seats in Scotland - now its going to be seen as a huge win if they become the largest party - and thats with the SNP in a fair bit of disarray
I stopped voting labour because of their behaviour
For me though, there was hope then and there is now. The theme to that era of Labour is just as relevant now as then, “things can only get better!”
Nothing like the same for me. The similarity is that people were fed up with the tories (not surprisingly after almost 20 years) but the hope was definitely higher. The reason for that is that Blair was selling hope and change while Starmer is not.
We will never know but it would interesting to go back a year and have a version of Starmer with more progressive policies and more hope and then seeing if the polling was any different.
Did Sunak stomp around repeatedly saying Labour would raise your taxes and increase immigration?
Pretty much and neither the wt blanket running the debate or Starmer seemed to do anything about him shouting over people, not answer questions and constantly interrupting.
The rest of us get warnings and our posts deleted
Was that before or after you admitted you were being a dick? Two things. Thing One, a picture says a thousand words, and none or them rude or personally insulting. Thing Two it will never not be funny to prick a humourless social media post with a well aimed image.
Except without the hope
I know its become popular to portray the 97 election as some sort of new beginning and that it was wildly popular, but my own personal recollection canvassing was that it wasn't that much different from this time around. There seemed to be (on the doorstep at least) as many undecided, reluctant, or folks just not going to vote as there seems to be now. I think turnout was quite low.
I bet the polling doesn’t move in any meaningful way at all.
There's a well know political thought that essesntially says that in most instances election campaigns have zero effect on the outcome, and that the public have pretty much made up their minds the day of the announcement.
There’s a well know political thought that essesntially says that in most instances election campaigns have zero effect on the outcome, and that the public have pretty much made up their minds the day of the announcement.
Which backs up my point about going round dropping leaflets being a waste of time other than it makes those dropping them feel they are doing something (they are not)
I know its become popular to portray the 97 election as some sort of new beginning and that it was wildly popular, but my own personal recollection canvassing was that it wasn’t that much different from this time around.
It was very different for me. Much more positive and hopeful of something actually changing. The backdrop differed though in that the tories were at the stage of being taken round the back and put down whereas now they are just ****ing horrible people.
The electorate move much more during campaigns than they used to.
I'd agree about the "hope" thing... Starmer just doesn't have the evangelism of someone like Blair (or Obama), so will never have what they had in terms of exciting the voters. But I think a lot of the lack of hope this time around is down to the recent politics of big hot promises being followed by damp failure... and the antidote to that is realism rather than inflated expectations. A lot of people are looking for a feeling of exhausted relief rather than excited elation come election night. I'll take a bit of both if possible... anything other than a dose of "what have we done again" and lots of grinning Conservative candidates.
Jimmy dimly on the bbc after show.
He is utterly dead behind the eyes now, no emotion and no humanity
There was never much going on in there anyway, but he's probably medicated up to the eyeballs now too.
As for private sector not be as 'wasteful' - if we're talking big private sector stuff the directors and board tend to remove any pesky excess cash as bonuses and dividends to avoid it being wasted on trivia like service level agreements, staff wage rises, product quality, having to treat sewage rather than just dumping it in the nearest river etc.
Labour not putting up a fight against “Farage” in Clacton Labour officials said to be upset that Jovan Owusu-Nepaul was gaining traction for viral social media posts
Awesome. No need to stand up to the radical right for this Labour party. It's the left who are the real enemy after all 😔
Tricky one that... let Farage win by splitting the vote to stop him, by campaigning to take Tory votes?
Give it all you've got to try and become the second party behind Reform?
Tactics in that seat, for both Labour and the voters, are very difficult.. glad I'm not voting there.
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Tactics in that seat, for both Labour and the voters, are very difficult.. glad I’m not voting there.
Seems like the ultimate 'hold your nose' vote. One more Tory MP isn't going make much of a difference. Nigel Farage in the HoC for five years pushes the door further open to a Conservative party taken over by the far right.
Tough for any Labour supporter to make that grim choice, but voting Tory is the correct tactical vote in this scenario.
I agree. Maybe. And probably also right for Labour to soft pedal in the campaign there... although you can see why the candidate would want to do otherwise! What a grim situation for them.
At least binner’s posts have some humour to them.
I remember when Life of Brian was funny. Yes, I am very old.
Ah blimey I had realised that it was that close between Labour and Tory 😕
Reform finally put some rubbish through the door this morning.
Local candidate is from the gaming sector and has no solutions just a list of grievances.
Is it too early for a extra large whisky?
Gloves were used to handle the toxic waste and move it into the appropriate filing receptacle.
Clacton is like a rerun of Brexit except Farage now only gets 42% rather than 52%. As with the RN/FN in France, Reform has given the xenophic/racist/fascist types a natural home away from the traditional right- left divide. It's a no-brainer for those with no brains and/or hate in their brains.
I know not everyone approves of the, "they are a little thick"message but come on, have you seen some of the Clacton interviews online?
