i google it
i wish i had not
anyone any experience
the only difference this week is Tesco fuel instead of usual Gulf....
*hides behind sofa*
Ah! We had that.
Changed catalytic converter
Changed sensors
Changed lots, spent lots, never got to the bottom of it so bought a fault code thing and reset the error before px'ing it.
We had that, cleared itself in a couple of days. Came on just a randomly as it went as I never got around to more and googling the fault and general consensus seemed to be someone at Peugeot got bored and attached a crap load of errors to that message so tracking down is a pain.
Ours is an 03 307 2.0 petrol so can't say if newer cars have a specific fault attached, but after 12months its never returned. I'd be tempted to leave a few days so long as no loss of power etc and or buy a fault reader/clearer.
You can thank me for this later.
Take your petrol cap off, clean it, put it back on , press it in well and lock it tight.
Light gone...?
Is it a Peugeot bike? If not it's in the wrong FORUM !!!!!!
Buy a little ODB II tool. Reset the error and see if it returns. This will at least tell you if it is repeatable or may be just some freak one off condition.
Diesel? Dpf fitted? Could list a load of scary expensive things it could be but best bet is to get the code and rectify that. Whatever you do dont just keep racking up the miles! For instance my citroen threw up the anti pollution fault due to low dpf fluid refilled and reset no dramas. If id left it the filter would eventually of clogged and needed cleaning or replacing.
Handy tip generic code readers often wont pick up the dpf side of life and will not reset the fluid dose counter. Youd need a garage with Peugeot planet software or compatible kit. They work for catalytic and lambda faults and can delete those codes though.
Amusing. You bought a French car. Duh!
PX
Now!
My 1.6 Berlingo (same engine as in some pugs) did this intermittently for a year or so. I reset the code every time using an code reader from ebay. Eventually I had a terminal stoppage, resetting just didn't work. A new fuel pressure sensor fixed it no probs.
It's basically peugeot's way of saying it has an engine management fault, renault used to just say service, the trouble with that is people thought it only wanted a service not that there might be something else wrong with the vehicle. It could be a £20 fix it could be more, without investigation any advice is just guessing.
We've had it on our pug for years. Just had a new cat fitted and it went away for a while but it's now back. It's a faulty sensor causing the error message so just ignore.
Have you got breakdown cover? Call them. They will have the kit to read the fault code properly (not just reset it) and will be able to give you advice on how serious it is and what to do.
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thanksyall for your advice!
"so. I reset the code every time using an code reader from ebay. Eventually I had a terminal stoppage, resetting just didn't work"
Which is exactly why just resetting it continually is a terrible idea.
Oh and french cars rock. 54 plate berlingo just sailed through another mot with only one bulb out.....which is funny as it was checked before it went in but im not arguing over a bulb for a clean sheet 🙂 - mech added that it is a bit agricultural but its a solid car given its age and milage and should keep on trucking for a good few years yet.
haha backtobasics glad it worked. Was reading all the other suggestions thinking "if only they had known…"
thank you for the kind offer of breeding!
I'll remember that one too, top chap howsyourdad1
Take your petrol cap off, clean it, put it back on , press it in well and lock it tight.
This is great as long as someone hasn't dropped the petrol cap and lost the little magnet that is in it, luckily under live data we could see that the switch wasn't seeing the cap present.
dammit
worked for 1 day with no issues or lights
now its back and then engine cuts out now too, 3 times in one journey
dammit dammit dammit
Have a look at the diesel filter. Could be clogged and only a couple of quid to replace.
Ok try the expensive petrol , that can help .
Where are you? I have a clone version Peugeot planet and can tell you what's going on. Or as I have just sold my car the system is for sale.
See my previous comment (PX now!)
We had this, intermittent for a while, but the Google search, together with an interesting additional symptom (slight hesitation occasionally when pressing the accelerator) lead me to PX the car about 18 months earlier than I had planned. The problem was widely reported (with the symptom I had) as a problem with the EGR valve, although the variety of other things it could have been was bewildering and the reports universally had poor outcomes - usually many £££ and/or mechanics scratching their heads.
mechanics scratching their heads.
usually the wrong mechanics though.....
I would do as above get peugeot planet on it. It really is an invaluable tool for pugs , and although it should not be followed religiously as a fault can manifest its self in many ways and the diagnostics can show the fault 2 or 3 steps down the line , it is a skill in its self to interpret diagnostics to find root cause.
If you got a pre owned cat from a rescue centre, would that work ?
One of the Peugeot forums has a list of users who have a planet Peugeot system. If there is one locally they will check your car out for a fraction of the cost of a garage.
Was a while ago so I cannot remember which forum it was.
What engine is it? Some of the Pug diesel have a hidden tank of Adblue that needs replacing every X miles. You can't do it yourself and isn't very cheap. Mates 307 needs it replacing which is why I know.
If you don't know Adblue is basically pig wee which when added to diesel brings down the emissions and has been used on trucks for years. Might explain the anti pollution fault? We use it in the fire engines to meet the Euro 6 standard.
Wont drive more than a few meters today 🙁
Thanks for the info on the Pug World, Checked the locations, none up here in the highlands....
have a local diagnostic center that might give us a clue, used them in the past
i had a wobble in confidence yesterday that i migt have filled it with petrol instead of diesel, but dug out the tesco reciept and was defo diesel! phew
i tried some redex fuel system cleaner too yesterday, but i guess thats done nothing - or made it worse, who the **** knows....these faults are a joke for a car a few years old....
so, didnt start at all today, turned over, but felt like no diesel in the engine,
got out
waggled the petrol cap - pushed it in, grunted it around
got in the car
started first time!
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Buy a new petrol cap.
The contacts on the fuel cap operate a magnetic switch that is on top of the rubber filling pipe. This is a common problem and easily rectified with a new unit and wiring. Every time you remove the cap to fill up the system operates its anti pollution cycle. This pumps Eloys fluid (NOT ADBLUE) from the tank in front of the nearside rear wheel to the particle filter in the exhaust system. This fluid burns hot and burns the soot particles. What happens when the cap plays up is that the exhaust gets blocked up with soot and throws the light on and goes into limp mode. So if you fancy a play then renew the cap switch. Remove and take apart the exhaust filter and clean out with brick cleaner. Check Eloys fluid and then get the system reset on a Peugeot planet or buy 1 from ebay or mine for £50. Have fun 🙂
B2B
i have pug planet up and running in aberdeen - depending on your engine as i did not update to the latest software for newest engines as im running a pair of dw8s and install is a pain in the tits.
"i tried some redex fuel system cleaner too yesterday, but i guess thats done nothing - or made it worse, who the **** knows....these faults are a joke for a car a few years old...."
cars today still need less maintainance and go for longer than in the 70s/80s....
when was the last time you set your points / tappets / changed piston rings / balanced your carburettors ?
The faults are quite simple for specialists who know how the cars work - and i dont mean dealers !
Every time you remove the cap to fill up the system operates its anti pollution cycle.
And that's why you should always fill the tank and not just stick £10 of fuel in at a time.
Hth
Marko
How's it going now? Sorted?
update from garage last night before close of play,
the car has no DPF
yeah - why i dont know - he just says it has not got a dpf.
the fault codes he was getting was incorrect voltage to ecu, he wiggled around the wires and all the faults dissapeared, he seems to think its a dodgy connection from some sensor,
i re-told him about the petrol cap jiggle/press/clears the faults as the receptionist didnt pass on the message
so he was checking that this morning, and see if that is the issue
bizzare about dpf though!
so its more than a few years old then if its a peugeot diesel without a DPF
Those died with the dw8 and if you had a dw8 in your car you would just set fire to it i think........ from the luddite owner of 2 dw8s.
Had a 207 in last week, bizarre fault codes, components checked out, kept investigating found water in the ecu plugs, if they are wiggling it might be worth checking that isn't the case. Finally traced it all back to washer jets letting in water, ran down inside of bonnet, and dripped into the housing, and then onto the ecu plugs.
@benji
hmm good point, hes replaced the fuel pressure sensor, worked for a day, then back to not starting @ fault codes - the fuel pressure is reading massively high all the time, hence the sensor replace.
with @benji's saying, makes me wonder, is it related to rain also!
@benji what did you do ? bathroom sealant 😕
This is why i miss my 307 HDI 😆 I actually enjoyed the challenge when new faults developed.
Pressure regulator in the high pressure pump was my favourite. That just used to go into limp home mode at random intervals. New pump fixed it.
As mentioned before if you can get a copy of Peugeot Planet it saves a lot of head scratching. The live data read outs can really help as it has reference values as well to compare to.
No removed plugs, blew all traces of water out from plugs, and then a smear of rubber grease on the seals, and plugged them back in, bathroom sealant would make them very difficult to remove. Used sealant on the washer jets, so no more leaks running down the inside of the bonnet.
update! car fixed
was EGR valve, broken resistors/sensor/inside of it causing a short - when it was unplugged car worked all day long, when they put it back it failed, they got a new one and installed it yesterday, worked all day long.
a big bill but not as big as new ecu !
thanks for all your help - perhaps someone surfing for thier electrical faults will see this and get some ideas too!