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The Trump brand is turning completely toxic.
Maybe his golf playgrounds will be "let go" and nature will take its course. I can't imagine he will sell them all as they are so fundamentally part of him.
Interesting to see how Andrew Neil & his Tufton Street chums are trying to rewrite their support for trump
https://twitter.com/ijclark/status/1348000088438747138?s=19
^ that mistake by Parler could be very costly for some of the extremists and their buddies.
Indeed. It has echoes of that EncroChat system that all the drug dealers were using. Parler users put too much trust into a single system that was clearly poorly (or at least hurriedly) engineered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EncroChat
It's hard not to watch this without a smirk. The downfall of Parler, Trump on Twitter etc is amusing for all of us who don't appreciate the spread of lies, but I do have sympathy with the Republican position that we have become too reliant on a few huge providers.
The reason Parler is gone is because Amazon Web Service (AWS) refused to host it any longer. That's fine but I know first hand how easy it is to set up hosting anonymously on an AWS system, and I'm sure there are thousands of sites/services which break Amazon's ToS. They have not all disappeared overnight. Essentially, whoever is head of AWS (Probably at the instruction of Jeff Bezos) made the call that Parler needed to go whilst those other sites have stayed. Oh, and Bezos has had a long-running spat with Trump.
Essentially, 4 people at the heads of Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook have the potential to control the narratives we see online. That's utterly mental. Currently they are using their power to act in my interests (mainly anti-fascism), but it should worry all of us that this technology can be controlled in this way.
There's also now talk that DNS providers like CloudFlare might start censoring their responses to DNS queries. For anyone who has ever thought Net Neutrality was important, this should send shivers down their spine.
Legatum funded academic Mathew Goodwin at it too
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1348417144992759812?s=19
Impeachment won’t happen, still needs 2/3rds of senate need to vote for it
Technically, the impeachment is done in the House. After he is impeached it is sent to the Senate for a trial. He will probably not be convicted in the Senate, but he will be impeached. Last time, he was impeached but not convicted. He will be the first President to be impeached twice.
You're right, sadly he will take impeached & not convicted as a vindication, again
I think it would be brilliant to have Pence as a president for 2 days, as it would ensure that trumps infamy would be known to every US schoolkid reciting lists of presidents 😁
Essentially, 4 people at the heads of Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook have the potential to control the narratives we see online. That’s utterly mental. Currently they are using their power to act in my interests (mainly anti-fascism), but it should worry all of us that this technology can be controlled in this way.
I would argue that FB & Twitter are very much not acting in my interests, but that's probably for another thread.
Essentially, 4 people at the heads of Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook have the potential to control the narratives we see online.
Well, not exactly. I mean they can pull sites that breach T&Cs but they can't pull sites that don't. And you can very easily spread misinformation and lies without breaching T&Cs.
They also only have the bluntest of tools available, which isn't that effective. There is still a demand, so someone will host or they'll finally realise how to spread their message whilst staying within the rules. The heads of those businesses aren't allowed to edit or moderate the content, are they?
They can change their T&Cs, if they wanted.
Maybe they could add, for instance, 'deliberate misinformation' or some such other vague catch-all.
^ that mistake by Parler could be very costly for some of the extremists and their buddies.
Oh my. I've seen some of the Parler content that has been shared to reddit, I'm not linking to it because of the extreme nature of some of the posts. 70TB of metadata will be poured over and I daresay that that extremists will be doxxed. Freedom of speech does not equate to freedom from the consequences of hate speech.
Seeing the Barclay bros owned media backpedal like this is amusing, plenty of people have screenshotted the original articles.
Keep the receipts people.
they can pull sites that breach T&Cs but they can’t pull sites that don’t.
It's a company, not a public service corporation. They can kick people off their servers if they feel like, as long as they aren't stupid about being racist, etc.
Hes too arrogant to resign, even with threat of impeachment in 3 months
I think it should just be the Donald and Arnie,head to head with swords on the White House lawn. 🙂
As I understand it you only need to get a 50% +1 vote for impeachment to disbar someone from running for office again? This would make sense if the Dems want to impeach but delay the hearings. It puts an end to the question of how many Republicans need to vote alongside the Dems, the numbers are there already.
The reason Parler is gone is because Amazon Web Service (AWS) refused to host it any longer.
I'm wondering if Parler will pop up again hosted on Alibaba Cloud. Would be an interesting situation for Parler folk to get their heads around, and US regulators to pick over.
I’m wondering if Parler will pop up again hosted on Alibaba Cloud.
Despite Trumps rhetoric, it doesn't suit China to be in a diplomatic war with America and the west, and that's not their usual MO, they just want to conquer the world with trade. Russia may end up hosting it though, their political aim is just to disrupt as much as possible, and hosting parler would certainly aid that mission, and I expect the proud American patriots would find a logic to accept it is a split second.
Watching the RW go into melt down due to the archiving of all parler posts is very satisfying.
It's like a burglar complaining that it's not fair because he didn't know the building had CCTV.
Some VERY prominent Tory MPs on Parler, quite a few joined on the same day. So far we've one outright denial from an MP...
Essentially, 4 people at the heads of Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook have the potential to control the narratives we see online. That’s utterly mental. Currently they are using their power to act in my interests (mainly anti-fascism), but it should worry all of us that this technology can be controlled in this way.
I wish more people would wake up to this. These companies need to somehow be broken up in to smaller companies. Notice how the anti big corporation sentiment has died down from 2010? Notice how the pro-privacy advocacy also seems to have died down?
With how much tension there has been in the four years(and probably even before 2016) leading up to 2020, something was bound to happen after the election. I don't agree with anything to do with the latest incident, but a part of me is happy, that for once its politicians that may have felt the fear, and not Joe Blow and his corner store getting torched up with the usual public faces adding more fuel to the fire.
As you well said, what goes around can come around. Example: Trump passes a stretch of a bill to crush the BLM riots, this bill is now being used against his supporters that stormed into the Capitol.
Mmm Trumpism’s not gonna go away thou, just going to find new figure heads and a new server host for whatever platform it ends up on.
Not having a mainstream outlets going to slow it picking up more followers but it’s already got a lot of followers.
Probably the beginning a new era of it rather than the end.
Is that download going to be a gdpr issue?
That could be nice little fine for them
Although being more widely adopted gdpr is a European thing so it's unlikely.
Although being more widely adopted gdpr is a European thing so it’s unlikely.
But applies to any data subject who is in the EU though if the data is going to be used to identify and prosecute those who are openly approving violence etc. you could probably make a case for processing the data under 3 bases:
- processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
- processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;
- processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller;
Some VERY prominent Tory MPs on Parler, quite a few joined on the same day. So far we’ve one outright denial from an MP…
That needs a whole lot of publicity.
Should be a crime to alter headlines and articles a couple of years down the line too....
Brutal.
Some VERY prominent Tory MPs on Parler, quite a few joined on the same day. So far we’ve one outright denial from an MP…
Nothing wrong with signing up to see what the mood / vibe is or to wade in and challenge people however futile that probably is. Obviously said MP's motives may have been different.
martinhutch
Lolz(2) for thols2
My response entirely on reading the technical analysis of the hack (yes it quite clearly was a hack but when you paint a target that big on your back)
But applies to any data subject who is in the EU
I get that but I don't see anyone being extradited for this any time soon - do you?
Lols at the parler thing. That's beautiful.
Surprised AWS suspicious activity alerts didn't go off during the data extraction, especially on an account due to be closed, glad they got it all though. I would also have thought AWS had backups that law enforcement could have requested if required (they've probably already archived them now).
I would also have thought AWS had backups that law enforcement could have requested if required
If their security was that crap, I imagine that every spy agency in the world already had all their data anyway.
That White House Office of Pardon Attorney is wonderful, I suspect they will hook a few people with that.
I actually miss Trump on Twitter. I agree with the ban but I quite enjoyed his real time melt downs.
How long do you think it will take for Melania to ditch him once he is out of office?
Reading the detail on the Parler attack, wow, especially the bit on the verified citizens.
the thing is if anyone in the eu is affected then the Parler owners could be given a monster fine, no extradition needed.
How long do you think it will take for Melania to ditch him once he is out of office?
6-12 months...
How long do you think it will take for Melania to ditch him once he is out of office?
As quick as she can before he goes bankrupt, I'd suggest....
How long do you think it will take for Melania to ditch him once he is out of office?
She is but the ice queen at the top of the iceberg. The Trump name is toxic to many now. This will echo through his business life and finances.
Melania will follow the money.
How long do you think it will take for Melania to ditch him once he is out of office?
She could quite possibly be looking at the biggest divorce settlement in history. Nod and smile.
That's assuming Trump actually has any tangible assets. In which case, unlucky, Ivank's, all that passive coitus for nothing.
"Should be a crime to alter headlines and articles a couple of years down the line too…."
It's called cancelling yourself I think.
Andrew Neil's first Twitter response to the unfolding chaos when seeing the mob charging up the grassy knoll in front of the Capital building was:
"I've seen more people at a St Mirren game"
I think someone once remarked whilst having a litre of beer at a Munich beer hall:
"I've seen more people at a Bayern game".
She is but the ice queen at the top of the iceberg. The Trump name is toxic to many now. This will echo through his business life and finances.
Melania will follow the money.
I think you could make the case that being Melania is more repugnant than being Donald. You could argue he can't help being who he is, an unhinged sociopath. She however made the conscious decision to attach herself to him and by default everything he is and stands for. It's not like he was desperately likable when she met him - he didn't morph into what he is now when it was too late.
That White House Office of Pardon Attorney is wonderful, I suspect they will hook a few people with that
What a whopa!