I'm in the process of buildinga 29er single speed and can't make up my mind which type of rims to go with????? I obviously want to keep weight down, but also want hassle free tyres....
Can't decided wether I should go with Mavic 717's or Stans????
People either love or hate tubeless. Can anyone advise me on the running costs?? do tubeless rims cost more in the long run?? I.e. tyres, sealant, valve????
Can I put normal tyres and inner tubes on stans rims??? If you've not already guessed i'm not a massive techy when it comes to bike components...
The Mavics would be the easy option, but more people seem to be changing to tubeless..
Any advice would be helpful,
Thanks Ant.....
I have flows and crests both brilliant both run with tubes. No issues with either set and I have given them both a kicking. Hope hoops are worth a look IMHO. Edit sorry I'm running 26 wheels not 29.
It's Stans for me. Not sure what the difference in overall cost is, but I've certainly saved a small fortune on inner tubes. Stans Crows are bleeding expensive though 😐
Can't decided wether I should go with Mavic 717's or Stans????
Seeing as Mavic's 717 is a 26" only rim, I'd advise you don't go for that if you're building a 29er!
Mavic do the TN719 though which is a great rim, if not as light or instantly tubeless ready as Stans rims, though it is very strong and cheaper.
As far as tubeless goes, do it, for definite. But from my experience, using a Mavic rim with rimstrips is just as effective as using a proper Stans rim, if not as light.
This might have been better on the bike forum, but to answer your question, any tyre and tube can be used on tubeless rims, to run tubeless you need special valves that seal the rim opening, preferably one's with removable cores, the reason being you'll need a latex solution to get the best out of the system, and Bonty tyres require it. I make my own:
1 tablespoon of art latex
1 " " " Slime
1 " " windscreen washer solution
¼ cup of water.
Mix well and put into tyre.
Repeat.
This is where the removable cores come in, you need a bottle with a nozzle and a bit of flexible tubing to fit the nozzle and valve. I've been using this system for eight years, and only had a tyre go flat while out on a ride twice, because I'd let the latex dry out. My bottle of latex has just dried out after eight years, and I've gone through three or four bottles of slime, and I still have the original bottle of washer concentrate. This system is what I use on three of my four bikes, the 700c singlespeed still has clinchers and tubes.
Not used Stans, but there's no way I'd go back to using tubes after running a bike with UST - in the past 5 years I've only had one puncture.
Thanks everyone for your help!!! Next question then??? who can recommend some good fast rolling tubeless tyres???
Cheers Ant....
People still use tubes?
Aye grum - light, simple, faff free and most importantly easy to change. I like to swap tyres around and punctures aren't a great issue round here ans we don't have much hawthorn hedging
I switched to tubless due to endless pinch-flats, never had a problem with thorns. It doesnt really take any longer to change tyres either providing you have a good track pump or even a compressor. It can be a bit messier though
I use tubes even on my Mavic 819 tubeless compatible rims. Used tubeless on and off on my XC bikes from 2003 but just can't be bothered with the faff now. I don't puncture much as I use fairly big tyres. I think they are good for stopping thorn punctures but all that stuff about lower pressure running is wrong IMHO. If you run too low pressures rims can get mashed. I used to find that muck got trapped between sidewall beads and rims when running tubeless and created slow punctures. Also sealant can partially dry inside a tyre into a messy blob over time. When I ride DH I find i need higher pressures anyway so for me tubeless offers little advantage..
if you puncture regularly then go tubeless otherwise don't.
I've gone tubeless on all my off-road bikes. no flats since. I'll be sticking with it