[Closed] True Grit

Going next week maybe, with my parents, supposed to be very good. Not seen the original for years but the version is supposed to be closer to the book which is the cool thing is to say about films.

I saw it last Saturday - really enjoyed it, but it could have been longer for me. Thought all the actors were superb, it was well paced, nicely shot and the right balance of humour and tension. Not the best Coen Brothers film, but well worth the price of admission.

bloody hell, has anyone [i]not[/i] seen the original?

bloody hell, has anyone not seen the original?

I haven't, I hadn't even heard of it.

Not the best Coen Brothers film

Pretty tough trying to top NCFOM

Have you heard of John Wayne? christ I feel so [i]old[/i].

Not seen it yet but being a Coen Brothers film, it's going to be great.

The original was on 4od the other week, not sure if it's still on there.

Liked it too.

Beautifully filmed.

Good to see Matt Damon in a character role. He was great in the bourne films but it is the first time I can think of seeing him when you forget it is Matt Damon. (Ment as a compliment.)

FFS ****in forum, huge post just went down the spout!

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I saw it last Saturday - really enjoyed it, but it could have been longer for me. Thought all the actors were superb, it was well paced, nicely shot and the right balance of humour and tension.

Again I'm surprised you (RM) managed to miss watching the original...

Anyways accents, dialogue & great acting (from everyone, even Damon) made it a brilliant film to watch IMO.
If you watched the original now (after watching this version), I reckon you'd find it flat and uninteresting, even though the action scene's are 'exactly' the same (to my memory anyways).
Though as it's one the g/f's favorite films, she was felt disappointed by it...

I remember the original, top film! 😀
M'old. 🙁

the only time i've seen anything with john wayne in it is a poster on the wall of an elderly day centre, lots of reminders of their youth to spark memories.

i'm not trolling... i'm being serious... never seen a film with him in, just the poster in the day unit next to the EMI ward.

not trolling... i'm being serious... never seen a film with him in, just the poster in the day unit next to the EMI ward.

The clips of the new one I've seen on the telly have *exactly* the same scenes as the original.

Again I'm surprised you (RM) managed to miss watching the original...

It was released 23 years before I was born..

I have seen the good the bad and the ugly and a fistful of dollars (I think) though.

And as an aside, does anyone remember John Wayne in the greatest story ever told?

He was a roman centurian, but there was no knocking the cowboy out of John.

[i]I have seen the good the bad and the ugly and a fistful of dollars (I think) though. [/i]

great. have you seen any John Wayne films?

Oh shit yeah thats clint eastwood LOL. I'm going to say no then, I haven't seen any john wayne films.

😉

He was a roman centurian, but there was no knocking the cowboy out of John.

I have seen the good the bad and the ugly and a fistful of dollars (I think) though.

it's like Zulu

😕

I'll say it again
M'old....

Watched it today and thought it was superb.

I don't remember the original but I must have seen it as a child because the plot is very familiar to me.

Coen Bros version is engrossing though; you reach the end before you know it. Full of quirky humour, great acting by leads and bit-parts alike (though the chap with the bullet wound in the leg does ham it up a bit), first-class cinematography...

Recommended.

I'll need to re-watch the original to see whether it's The Duke of The Dude who makes the best Rooster Cogburn.

First this, then the Dukes of Hazzard on the other thread, now theyre telling me theres a new Hawaii 5-0.
Modern world- have your own ideas

Seeing it tomorrow... Hooray!

It isn't really a remake of the first film, it is much more another film based on the same book.

Personally I thought it was a better adaptation, the old one steered a bit away from the way that the girl. Is the main character, which makes the story more interesting and less of a straight western.

Stylistically it felt to me like it had a lot in common with the leoni westerns, some of the people I went withholding felt it was a bit slow, I think they'd hate Once Upon A Time in the West (obviously the best western ever)

The book is brilliant by the way. Well worth a read.

I nearly spat my coffee all over the tele the other night,
There I was minding my own business when a trailer popped up for True Grit ... WTF

Not the John Wayne classic but a remake.... my instant reaction was that some things just should not be done..

and remaking True Grit is one of them things....
I 2 am Old

For those who have never seen a John Wayne movie ( western in particular ) can I suggest a couple

The Searchers
The man who shot Liberty Valance

I thought it was ok- nothing more.
The original ( I 2 m'old) was great at the time but not sure how it would stand up now.
Took me a good 5 minutes to tell a word Jeff Bridges was on about!

I thought it was good.

The original ( I 2 m'old) was great at the time but not sure how it would stand up now.

he won an oscar for the role iirc my grandad used to watch John Wayne movies with me , I suppose actually I watched them with him. Great guy ...my grandad that is John wayne was a great cowboy actor but a right wing McCarthy squealing Hawk of the highest order. like all hawks he did not enlist like other brave people like james stewart.
What is that marine film he made?
I have not seen it for probably 23 years so I would hate to say how good it really is. but he wss not a greta human being

I avoid all John Wayne films these days...

how come the Matt Damon character doesn't die? unlike in the original

Saw it last weekend really enjoyed it some of the scenes look almost identival to the john wayne version the acting was better and more realistic if you are gonna pick a Wayne western to watch I'd say the searchers is essential and I'd love to see a coen bros version of that possibly darker and. deeper than ncfom
In summary excellent film excellent cast but the Wayne version maybe had an extra zing or something I can't put my finger on

Also made me wanna watch deadwood again

Saw it last night. Really enjoyed it.

Wayne had something. Like Monroe had something. We wont see their like again.

Marion, Shirley?

it's a good film, a classic western with great characters and stunning cinematography, but the storyline and pace let it down for me.
there's no real excitement in it, no tension, and too many humorous parts (not funny, just bits that make you chuckle) - the latter making it too light-hearted for a proper gritty western.
given that the film is less than 2 hours long, they spend too much time setting the scene and developing the Cockburn character, not leaving enough time for actual bounty hunting and adventure - the bits everyone wants to see in western. there's no saloon brawl, no crusty women of ill repute, no mexicans, no injuns, no high noon stand-off... I should have guessed, I never did like John Wayne.
I can't help but be disappointed.

I wasn't too impressed. Then I didn't rate the original either. It just didn't stick with me, some bits were pretty solid but others just plain weren't convincing. I guess that's partly due to the source material though, sometimes you need to be a bit less loyal to the original and cut out the crap. And yep, I thought the timing was all broken, if the whole story was given the same room to breathe as the first part that'd have really helped but it just felt rushed.

Jeff Bridges is about a million times better at this than John Wayne though. But then again John Wayne was useless.

May I be the first to say.........

Maaaatt Dayyymonnn...

In "The (allegedley) Greatest Story Ever Told", the following exchange took place between John Huston (directing) and John (Real name Marion) Wayne:

Wayne: "Surely this man was thuh saan av gaaad".

Huston: "Yeah, great John. Now say it with more awe".

Wayne: "Awe, surely this man was thuh saan av gaaad"...

Yeah, great actor, sure.

I watched the original last week on Film 4

I watched the new one the other night

The original is a reasonably entertaining 60s western - but really not all that

The new one is very good indeed - the action scenes are the same, but with some variations around who is where when, which improve things and keep it interesting

Considering the stuff around it being a new version of the book and not a remake of the John Wayne film some of the performances are very similar. The guy who sells/ buys horses and the character played by Robert Duvall in the original - both actors in the new one seemed to be playing very close to the original film's performances

i'm glad there were a couple of negative reviews towards the end of this thread as i was starting to think i was on my own. saw it at the weekend and wasn't very impressed at all. it looks good and all that but i really hated the fact that i couldn't understand what was being said half the time because of their accents. the first half was pretty slow then i thought it was going better after she crossed the river but then it slowed right up again. the finale was pretty good though.

Good film (though far from being an epic of the genre), beautifully shot, with some great set pieces - and there's an excellent (& nicely scripted) turn from Hailee Steinfeld as the avenging kid.

By no means as weirdly hypnotic as [i]No Country for Old Men[/i], but that's hardly surprising.

said if your going to watch one John Wayne film make it The Searchers. The Shootist is also a fav of mine but I think you have to be a bit of Western obsessive like my to understand it fully.

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