[Closed] Training and diet talk...

Awesome energy biscuits?

In training for what?

In training for what? Ygm btw.

I've been reading Chrissie Wellington's book and she mentions sports nutrition books by Asker Jeukendrup. Anyone read them? Any good?

[i]I'm eating biscuits in training[/i]

Is them Rubber biscuits ?.

Fruit shortcake. WTF are rubber biscuits?

Work related training on our new recruitment process. Not the sort of training for discussion here.

Are you super fast then now Dirty?

[i]Work related training on our new recruitment process[/i]

So, you work in recruitment.
You work for an Agency ?.

Nope.

Work related training is OT. Work is definitely OT.

Stop derailing my thread.

Dirty - I've been putting together a new leg workout for cycling.

yeti makes spreadsheets and daydreams about being as awesome on a bike as me.

I make plans philly, lots and lots of plans, and then I wet dream about you.

[i]yeti makes spreadsheets and daydreams about being as awesome on a bike as me.[/i]

Oh !......

Hes management.

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I'm on tender hooks this morning...

Did Molly find any chorizo in Madrid?
Did he run around like a maniac in his footy match?
Will the Dirty v's Molly every happen?

Oh, and today I thought I might talk about massage, rest and recovery.

I'm on tender hooks this morning...

Did Molly find any chorizo in Madrid?
Did he run around like a maniac in his footy match?
Will the Dirty v's Molly every happen?

No.
Yes.
No.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenterhook ]Bit of a damp squid really.[/url]

I had a 2 hr active release massage last night and my legs have changed shape 😯

Feel much better for it

Thanks Jamie - I thought it was to do with meat.

Serious iDave? Is that myofascial release? What shape are they now??

I had a 2 hr active release massage last night and my legs have changed shape

They call him, The Noodle.

I've managed to eat pretty idavish in Bulgaria for the last couple of days 🙂

The only problem has been that I haven't trained since the weekend. Given that I have am following Chris Carmichaels training program, should I do intervals tonight when I get home, tomorrow and saturday with a long ride on sunday or skip one of the interval sessions?

Or do what I know i will do anyway and do as much of it as I can unless I feel like I'm going to die

oddjob, intervals tonight, long tomorrow, intervals Sat.

I did Tabata yesterday as I only had 30 mins for lunch. No matter how many times I do it I still feel like I'm cheating myself out of a session.

Legs are proper defined and gnarly TSY, like an old cycling blokes legs should be. new lumps and grooves - they were ****ed before.

Oh, I get ya... like a mature version of mine.

I was secretly hoping they'd changed shape into arms or something a bit more unique.

Dirty - I've been putting together a new leg workout for cycling.

Oh, and today I thought I might talk about massage, rest and recovery.

Yeah, I don't know if I should share it with both you and Molly. You should each follow your own training paths. 🙂

I rested yesterday. Tonight I dine in hell.

😛 That's cool, i'm meeting with my coach on Tuesday night...if you don't share with me, i won't share with you! 👿

You would have been proud of me last night - i saw stars when doing KB swings!

i saw stars when doing KB swings!

Awesome... although potentially ridiculously dangerous.

My new legs workout is all about targeting glutes and hamstrings... e-mail me for details.

[i] i saw stars when doing KB swings[/i]

I felt a little light headed after my third set of deadlift, last night.

Yesterday was day 2 of iDiet for us.

The hens had laid enough eggs for scrambled eggs for breakfast, with diced chorizo tossed in. Mine with bacon, hers with salmon and tomatoes.

For me, dinner was a Mexican bean salad from the student canteen at work with the remainder of the previous day's pepperoni and houmous. She had a Subway salad box again.

For tea, a plate full of roast veg (carrots, parsnips, sweet potatoes and beetroot) with a steak.

No red wine last night 🙁 Drank black coffee, green tea and water all day.

I like the iDiet 🙂

I got through three pints of water last night between putting the kids to bed and going to bed myself, which seems like a lot. Have other people found they're drinking more water?

"Highlight was climbing to Lluc, descending 12km to Sa Calobra at sea level and turning round and coming straight back up again!"

That's a fantastic road. Sadly I was in a car. Jealous.

night ride soon yeti? jo needs that rear QR kit thingy too. thinking sat night perhaps?

Sat night? I'm out drinking in prep for the White Horse Challenge on Sunday.

I can post it him?

Couple of days left until London Mara... 7mile at race pace last night, might have a trott out friday.

But more importantly going down to registar this afternoon and will be looking to pick up a Garmin 910.

If I do, it'll be off to the pool tonight to have a play.

he is getting fidgety about not being able to build it up yet... i'm sure he'd appreciate that!

Ro5ey - do the software update as soon as you can.

I've one of the first that came into the country and it had the occasional freak out, of course they may have fixed it now.

Phil - I could've done that ages ago... if he'd suggested it / given me his address!

lol he's a numpty, he's been waiting for you to come down for a night ride as apparently you were going to bring a bag of stuff down?

hence me hassling you about a night ride (plus i want to ride too of course)

he has little concept that other people might have jobs and plans

TSY... am I right in thinking that if I want to do a 400m swim TT the watch will buzz to let me know I've done the required number of lenghts.... I'm rubbish at counting lengths, really really rubbish... it just bores me.

Yeah, bless him, he's really better off doing what I said and going on the Hope website and trying to work out what / if anything is missing. I'll then look to see if I have it.

Ro5ey - yes, if you set up the distance alert at 400m. I'd do a warm up first to make sure it's counting correctly, for some reason mine used to add on an extra 20 at the start of the session.

@rosey, unfortunately you can't set up planned swimm workouts on the 910 yet, I believe garmin are still working on it.

i've told him to text you his address, once he's sent it to you its prob worth reminding him of those instructions again lol

ooh, I didn't realise that TSY.

So, [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa ]quinoa[/url] ..... in or out?

In. It's a [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein ]complete protein[/url] and not really a grain.

Also, I never realised, it's pronounced [url= http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/knowhow/glossary/quinoa/glossary.mp3 ]Keen-wah[/url].

One thing on the distance alarm... I'd set it for a length or half a length early as mine tends to tell me I've done 100m at abotu 115.

This thread has got boring now

😥

Also, I never realised, it's pronounced Keen-wah.

This thread has got boring now

Thanks for your entertaining input 🙄

Can you find one for chorizo, British pronunciation is really getting on my nips!!

[url= http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/knowhow/glossary/chorizo/glossary.mp3 ]Here you go.[/url]

BBC sez yes. So ner!

[url= http://es.forvo.com/word/chorizo/ ]http://es.forvo.com/word/chorizo/[/url] 😀

I did look at that page, but couldn't direct link the sound files. So facked it orf.

insightful. 😛

thinking of doing ultra (30miles) in the autumn. Mad? I think I should take about 7 hours, need food and drink. (that's the bit I'm going to struggle with)

Amelia - you should be aiming for faster than that with your running credentials! That wouldn't be much more than a walk!

There's a bloke at my running club, and he reckons 10min/miles when doing ultras, and then there's breaks and a bit of walking!!

He sounds like a wimp.

What speed would you run a marathon?

No idea my lovely. I did 15 miles in just under 2 hours about a month ago.

I'd be happy with anything under 4 I think.

I managed 63 miles over mountains on goat tracks in 18 hours, on 5 weeks training, so you should be under 5.5 hours surely emsz, being quick and miniature in size?

[i]under 5.5 hours surely emsz[/i]

*faints*

I did 15 miles in just under 2 hours about a month ago.

So why do you need 5 hours to run the next 15?

Given the size/weight of Emsz, I reckon a strong head/tail wind could +/- several hours.

Hmmm... this brings the thread back around to who is most aerodynamic combined with power to weight ratio question?

Because i'm pretty sure I can't run 30 miles at 7.5min/miles, that's why!! LOL

never thought about anything like this before, not even sure I can do it, so I thought I'd set myself a target of 6 hours for running/walking, and rest periods every so often. I'm only racing myself

Course you can you fanny.

6 hours is much better and definitely beatable for you IMO.

Glitch

[b]Day 3[/b]
Breakfast: soft boiled egg, bacon
Dinner: salad bag plus bean salad pot plus chorizo plus celery sticks dipped in houmous
Tea: home-made meat loaf with broccoli and cabbage

Both of us drinking a [i]lot[/i] more water than usual, but still being thirsty. Normal?

mike - apparently it is. Something to do with liver functioning and processing fat. Not a bad thing though really, water seems to be allowed on most diets.

21.8 mph for the morning commute today, still had enough left in the tank to do another 5k of sprint intervals.

this brings the thread back around to who is most aerodynamic combined with power to weight ratio question?

What's everyones training for the weekend? I'm planning to see if i can hang onto the fast chaingang tomorrow, then on Sunday a 20mile ride out to a 22mile mountain time trial and then 20mile ride home. Not sure i'm expecting a good time in the MTT with all of that planned, esp as my legs don't seem to have fully recovered from the weights i did on Wednesday 🙄

Thing is Dirty... it was you and Mol I was referring to. My answers are found out on the bike.

Ummm. This weekend.

Swimming at lunch.
2 hrs of weights on way home.
Early mtb blast at Chicksands sat am for some awesome dualcross action.
Run in the afternoon.

Then... if weather's looking bad I'm going to get drunk on Sat night and do some intervals and gym on Sunday.

If it's good I'm going to do approx 150k in the White Horse Challenge.

it was you and Mol I was referring to

when is the Tri that you are doing and Mol's doing the bike leg bit?

10th of June. I think I'm going to have to enter more later in the season as I think I can be fitter, more efficient, in 3 months or so.

Have you read any stuff on Mark Allen's heart rate based training?

Not sure if it's old hat or whether 12 weeks of 'pootling' really could be the key to superior fitness.

Emsz... you ran 15mile in 2hours and think you could do 26.2 in under 4 ( and I reckon you could, easy)... that leaves 4 miles to "run" at a 15min/mile pace to do your ultra in sub 5 hours.

( I thought an ultra was 60Km ?? )

TSY.... Haven't read the Allen book, but I've "pootled" for months since last summer until feb this year... I think it works after getting a 1:30 1/2 in the middle of march, having been now where near running sub 7min/mile for any great distance in training.

I just found a link to his site last night and it was discussing the same training he used to do for IronMan.

One of his athletes dropped from a 5:30/pace to over 8 mins when exercising at the target HR, yet after 3-6 months at 154bpm had got his pace back to 5:30.

Much more efficient at burning fat too apparently.

The Maffetone method?

I've got a 2/3/4 race in worcester this sunday. Should be interesting.

am finding it much harder actually getting into road races this year. They seem to be really oversubscribed. I applied for a race for the end of May in the 1st week of March and i haven't been accepted.

have got lots of crit races planned inbetween but really want to hit the road races this year

Yep, Phil Maffetone? You tried it?

Do you race at Castle Coombe at all Tricky?

nope.. just read a bit about it.

yes.. planning on doing most of castle combe and bath races

You should come along

Yep planning on entering some of them... it's about an hour and 20 min from my office so doable in an evening. What sort of pace should I expect??

What's the bath race tricky?

What sort of pace should I expect??

Thanks Dirty... what duration? What cat?

Was a women's crit so open to all cats, 45mins + 5 laps. Men's was 1 hr + 5 laps iirc with slightly faster pace.

LOL - how long (distance or time) is a lap then?

Yep planning on entering some of them... it's about an hour and 20 min from my office so doable in an evening. What sort of pace should I expect??

Can depend massively.. Very easy to stay in the bunch though

[url= http://connect.garmin.com/activity/89792396 ]26.3 av from last year[/url] (but equally has been 23-24

2 races

e/1/2 and a 3/4

Very easy to stay in the bunch though

For you 😀

So......Interval Training.

I had my first spin on the road bike with a HR monitor. 2.4km loop with a 0.7km long climb at 8.6% gaining 73m. Am training for a very long multi-day mtb ride with endless climbs which I think I'm going to be doing at 70-80% maxHR. Did the climbs in that zone, felt comfortable, did 10 laps.

Question is should I be upping the HR to 85-90% when I'm doing these or should I stick to the zone I'm going to be climbing the big mountains at in the summer? I guess I get more out of my training if I beast myself right?