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poor road positioning, slow traffic and islands - you should have pulled out of the bus lane earlier and slotted into place in the middle of the lane taking up a full 'unit' of traffic, you effectively pulled straight out of a give way in front of the merc. The bike lanes in your vid are useless so I'd have stuck in the middle all the way apart from when you get a full size bus lane. Too close at 25secs. The undertake at 2.00mins was a bit dodgy, the lane narrows again just after the roundabout putting you and the corsa in a unhealthy position for hardly any gain.
Merc woman is in the wrong for chucking stuff but you didnt help yourself. sorry.
DezB i critisised your driving from your description of it ages ago but i can't see anything especially wrong in your cycling.. mind you i can't see the thrown object or what the driver looks like either .
one of the joys of living in swansea....always a mate who can unofficially get you an address off of a number plate. got to love the look on their face when they get home and your already outside their house. a smile and and a wink as you ride off really shits them up ๐
Am I the only one getting an ad at the bottom of that vid "How do I talk to women?"
I have to agree with others that you should have taken the lane for most of that vid. You presumably knew the bus lane ended like that, in which case you'd have been better off joining the road earlier and taking the lane, which would have prevented the first attempted pass. Given you were keeping up with the traffic, and not apparently trying to go past the car in front, then you could have taken the lane up to the start of the bus lane, which would have prevented the second attempted pass. Why exactly were you riding so far left - it only encourages drivers to attempt to pass? Most worrying to me is how far left you were going past the traffic island at 0:33 - personally I'd be right in the middle of the lane going past there even if the road in front was totally clear so as to prevent attempted overtakes wiping me out as they pull left.
Not that any of that excuses the driving of the merc, but you could make it a lot safer for yourself by more assertive road positioning. I have to say that in this instance I agree with (the ghost of) TJ ๐
You under took the corsa so showing the vid to the cops will have them throw it out the window ;O)
[i]I have to agree with others that you should have taken the lane for most of that vid. You presumably knew [/i]
Yeah, you're another one who knows my commute better than I do ๐
[i]under took the corsa[/i] in a cycle lane? That's illegal yeah?
Of course we dont know your commute better than you do- i am happy to go on record as never have been there if it helps ๐ - but what we have done is give you some advice, based on a video you posted up, as to how you could avoid this happening again.
You are of course free to ignore this advice and the reasons we give and/or pretend we are saying something we are not. i dont think anyone is deliberately trolling and it is still her fault and you should still report it.
Cant see anything wrong myself with Dez's positioning. Taking up the whole lane would have just aggravated the situation further.
Can I just say some of those cycle lanes are useless / dangerous.
aye they are useless/dangerous
If you are in the whole lane/ hogging they cannot pull along side you as they have to go on the wrong side of the road to achieve this and get hit by cars. They are forced to stay behind you which is far safer for you. he does this later in the video circa 1 minute
Junky - as I come out of the junction just before the top bus lane, it is quite fast and there's quite a lot of evaluation of the traffic - you cannot give me advice based on what you see in the video... sorry, it always bugs me when folk on here think they know better than the person who is actually in the situation and has been there 100s of time before. It's the TJ attitude.
anyway, yeah - I have to evaluate the situation behind, in front, further down the road (and occasionally, whether I've just managed to cut up a bus or cyclist using the cycle lane!) all in a few seconds. My road position accounts for the years of experience I've had on that road, all without serious incident - just one silly moo who thinks she owns the road.
Personally, I'd just let it slide and move on. Nobody died, and the police really have more on their plate.
Much less stress that way.
That's my feeling Neil - I get the impression that, even if the police speak to her, she's the sort that'll still think she was in the right and I should've let her overtake.
it always bugs me when folk on here think they know better than the person who is actually in the situation
I can see why, we all think we are experts and we all think we know best- it is STW after all
It was not meant to be arsey comment
it is STW after all
so true.
if you started a thread stating clearly that black is black, someone would come along and tell you that black is actually white, or that you're a racist.
[i]it is STW after all[/i]
Ah, I'm the same on the roads (car or bike) - I know exactly what to expect, but still get annoyed when it happens!
I need therapy! ๐
Most pathetic cycle lanes I've ever seen. The council should be embarrassed!
I think Neil has it. Isn't that a typical commute? You'll see her again if you do the same route every day. Think of something sexist, amusing and flattering to say if you get the chance.
Yep, typical commute. I had this today - a massive bin lorry doing about 15mph down a road with cars on either side and suicidal pedestrians playing run the gauntlet, then me on my bike, then a black Ford people carrier (owned by a known anti-cycling London taxi firm). He just didn't seem to get that there was no room to get infront of me so just persisted in half-wheeling and revving his engine. I just held my line, eyes fixed forward and put a hand out to gesture him to back off a bit. Worked for about 10 seconds.
There will always be idiots on the road - you just have to know how to avoid crashing into them.
> Personally, I'd just let it slide and move on
People with that level of aggression should be sternly warned that they risk not being allowed to drive cars until they get help, in my opinion.
I would say 'let it slide', but she threw something at you? I think that you should report that even if
I can't see it on the vid though, and she'd probably deny it.she's the sort that'll still think she was in the right and I should've let her overtake.
Me too ๐I know exactly what to expect, but still get annoyed when it happens!
A couple of chavs threw an apple core at me as they drove past in their souped up, sh*t pile of a junk Peugeot yesterday on the way home.
Also shouting something, but I cant understand 'chav' language ๐
I quite often blowing them a kiss often invokes a self combustion from within the car quite nicely.