I think technically they both are. LB covers events up to and including the funeral, Unicorn is the variation for the Queen's return to London, but they merge after about 5 days when her body will then be moved to lie in state at Westminster Hall.
Elizabethan era ends...... Are we now Charlesian?
That’s just ludicrous
What I meant was that it suddenly went quiet, no noise and very few cars about 20 minutes before I got home. The timescale fitted with the announcement.
That makes more sense. I read your original post as something a TV psychic would say 😂
RIP Queen Elizabeth II
Long live King Charles III
A sad day
She’s part of our identity, whether we like it or not.
No she’s not. Might be part of yours, but that is an odd statement to make.
No, she is / was. I respect your right to be monarchist or republican, but you can't escape like it or not that we live in a monarchy. Her face is on our money, our stamps, our postboxes, our railway lines, our warships, etc. She is part of our national identity, even if not yours as an individual.
At least she saw the buffoon out the door before she went
Working to the end, but Johnson and Truss as your last duties! You've earned your peace Queen Elizabeth.
it suddenly went quiet, no noise and very few cars a
Same here, you never realise there's a background hum until suddenly it stops, it was eerie, and my first reaction was to to the TV on and check the news.
No, she is / was.
I don’t have a national identity. Sorry to piss on your chips there. She’s an old lady who died. Nothing more, nothing less to me in any way, shape or form. Not used money, stamps, post boxes or err warships in years and I don’t and didn’t care who’s face was on them. This place is funny at times.
Old lady who lived a long life of immense wealth has died.
I have no emotion at all, and refuse to be talked down to as though I should.
No she is part of your national identity like high tea, queueing for things and tutting. You have to have a national identity see because a stranger on the Internet decided this for you a couple of posts ago. Cheeks agreed with them which is, quite frankly, a point in my favour!
No, she is / was. I respect your right to be monarchist or republican, but you can’t escape like it or not that we live in a monarchy. Her face is on our money, our stamps, our postboxes, our railway lines, our warships, etc. She is part of our national identity, even if not yours as an individual.
Hear, hear.
Nothing more, nothing less to me in any way, shape or form.
Be at peace with yourself because all of us are insignificant.
I would say I am a little 'thoughtful', mainly because all things must past, and death is inevitable. Off riding bikepark tomorrow!
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No, she is / was.I don’t have a national identity. Sorry to piss on your chips there. She’s an old lady who died. Nothing more, nothing less to me in any way, shape or form. Not used money, stamps, post boxes or err warships in years and I don’t and didn’t care who’s face was on them. This place is funny at times.
I feel ye, but you're going to have a horrid next 10 days if you let it get to ye, probably best start a new thread if you need to comment, rather than cause a rammy in here. 😆 I prefer the no comment approach myself, but each to their own.
Chewkw agreed with the other guy so I’m clearly winning at the internets! Right I’m off to read Wind in the Willows and look down on foreigners because I is British and it’s part of my identity just like Warships and stuff
As much as I'm not a Royalist in any way and the news has had little personal impact on me, all the TV channels should just be showing this on a loop. Says more about the woman her family has lost than any po-faced, deferential, maudlin rolling news.
Chewkw agreed with the other guy so I’m clearly winning at the internets!
something about a stopped clock?
No she is part of your national identity like high tea, queueing for things and tutting. You have to have a national identity see because a stranger on the Internet decided this for you a couple of posts ago.
Absolutely not - if you don't feel you have a national identity that's fine, I said I respect and agree that you can choose not to subscribe to that and we have identities as individuals as well. She is / was part of the national identity, I didn't say you have to have that identity.
Not really because directly after stating the Queens significance he stated everybody is insignificant so meh!
Elizabethan era ends…… Are we now Charlesian?
Caroline Era, or possibly Carolean.
Chewkw agreed with the other guy so I’m clearly winning at the internets!
No sure who I was agreeing with but she is part of our identity even for commonwealth nations.
As for winning at the internet perhaps but I am 100% sure you can win against death.
something about a stopped clock?
It is about a good death. In our culture this is something that we considered an honour in life.
In a winter that more than usual number of 96 year olds will die due to effects of the cost of living...
Perhaps the dark ages?
She was an amazing monarch through changing and challenging times and led with distinction and a deft hand. If our political leaders could do even half the job she did we’d be bloody lucky. RIP and Godspeed your Majesty.
Dieu et mob droit.
FFS nothing on TV. Every single main channel I was looking forward to Saving Lives at Sea
My brother heard about it just before 3pm as the BBC stopped him going on a conference next week
I do wonder if she purposely decided to snuff it in Scotland as she was concerned about Scotland splitting off. I think her sniffing it in Scotland will help the union
Have they given the extra Bank Holiday date yet ? That will be breaking news
If London Bridge is right, then the funeral is on D+9 which would be Saturday 17th. So expect eg: sports to be cancelled.
Hmm, I wonder if that applies to everything. I have a race that day.
Elizabethan era ends…… Are we now Charlesian?
We weren't Elizabethan. During Edward VII we gradually migrated to the decade naming scheme.
I would say I am a little ‘thoughtful’, mainly because all things must past, and death is inevitable.
Pretty much echoing this sentiment here.
I'm indifferent to the monarchy (neither for nor against) but definitely feeling in a poignant mood tonight.
When I was a wee boy, before I understood the concept of death, I used to be obsessed with the fact that my grandparents would each receive a telegram from the queen on their 100th birthday.
My grandfather died in 2008 (aged 87) and my grandmother last year (funnily enough, also aged 96). Quite a sad feeling that neither got their telegram. That's how I'll remember the queen.
Loving all the: 'I'm a republican but...[insert fawning praise for monarchy]'
I think the funeral is on Monday 19th.
I'm self-employed so don't get paid if my client deems any day to be a non-working day
I resented the enforced extended platinum jubilee celebrations as it cost me.
If I lose a day this time, I accept it without any resentment.
For clarity, I'm not a monarchist.
If London Bridge is right, then the funeral is on D+9 which would be Saturday 17th. So expect eg: sports to be cancelled.
I’m expecting it to be Monday 19 September. D+10 would make it Sunday but don’t think it can be on a Sunday so will move to the following day. 10 days of national mourning now.
Listening to the BBC radio output and they noted that the new PM was the first in over 70 years that has spoken in that role to both our Queen and our King. She'll dine out on that for the rest of her life no doubt.
10 days of national moaning now......FTFY
My brother reads the BBC news and indicated we are looking at 10 days now.
Have they mentioned how she died yet? Morbid I suppose. How do people that old die? Do things just pack up?
^ “mobility issues”, apparently.
I wonder how long it will take for the Patriots to realise we now have a “woke” for King.
I was surprised by the BBC segment which referred to the Queen's, quote, "sometimes strained" relationship with Margaret Thatcher. She was known to dislike Thatcher as she apparently felt that mass unemployment and Thatcher's divisive policies were bad for her kingdom, but I am more than a little surprised that the BBC was prepared to acknowledge that.
They also claimed that the Queen was "out of touch" with public opinion after Diana's death, that also surprised me - I didn't expect any negative comments at all from the BBC on the day of the Queen's death, only unrelenting praise.
I’m expecting it to be Monday 19 September. D+10 would make it Sunday
Why D+10? What I've read says D+9 which makes it Saturday which is a day that actually works quite well for disruption, etc., of the working week.
It's actually quite important to us because my daughter's off to Uni and we have a largish family get together planned for that weekend, ideally Sat 17th (because my Mum's on dialysis and fitting around that and the funeral is now looking a squeeze)
The Queen's reaction to Diana's death was her protecting the firm
Any holiday will cost me £165 a day so not looking forward to that.
It’s actually quite important to us because my daughter’s off to Uni and we have a largish family get together planned for that weekend, ideally Sat 17th (because my Mum’s on dialysis and fitting around that and the funeral is now looking a squeeze)
I don't understand..are you expecting to attend the funeral? If not, just carry on as you were.
If restaurants are all closed then we can't.
Have you never mourned the death of a musician, sports star or other icon in your life.
God no.
I nipped down to Aldi this evening for bread, milk and a rummage along the middle aisle. I went down Queens Road to get there, and came back up Kings Road. We’ve all been on that journey tonight, have we not?
Do we not get to at least have a debate about an all-new national anthem rather than current dirge? Now's as good a time as any.
I'm not a monarchist, but nonetheless find it outrageous some of the things people are coming out with on twitter...
https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1567959940349689857
https://twitter.com/Aldanimarki/status/1567861794605043712
https://twitter.com/roun_sa_ville/status/1567853458581032960
Don’t see why flower of Scotland would change
Do we not get to at least have a debate about an all-new national anthem rather than current dirge? Now’s as good a time as any.
Think you'll find it's just a case of king queen
Have you never mourned the death of a musician, sports star or other icon in your life.
God no.
"God no" makes it sound as if mourning the death of a high profile person who you like and admire is incomprehensible to you. Do you generally feel little if any emotions? I can get emotional just watching the news. Although I'm quite comfortable with being like that.
Edit: For the record I was quite emotional when David Bowie died, he represented an important icon in my youth. I just happened to be working in Brixton at the time so I popped round to the impromptu shrine in front of his mural. I found it quite deeply emotional, especially seeing all the other people who were clearly upset.
I don’t understand the mourning being the family. Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with? I really don’t get why some people want to stand outside Buck house in the rain. Each to their own I guess
It's quite humbling hearing of all the nations that are lowering flags at half-mast et cetera.
For all that's gone on over the last 6 years, and before, we're still, under our late Queen at least, a nation that the rest of the world takes notice off.
I'm not sure we deserve such reverence.
Why would restaurants be closed?
I don’t understand the mourning being the family. Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with? I really don’t get why some people want to stand outside Buck house in the rain. Each to their own I guess
My theory: People enjoy the occasion - getting together and having a good blub. Similarly, you generally seem to see the same people protesting about stuff. The cause is secondary to the scene.
As with several posters above I'm not a monarchist, but....3 additional bank Holidays though...... you gotta respect that. 🙂
God no
Weird turn of phrase for someone who's so vocal about their anti religion stance
Have they mentioned how she died yet?
Loss of breath
It'll be interesting how Scotland's view of the monarchy develops. The Queen did great work in keeping Scots on board, but I wonder if having the past Prince of Wales as King will speed up the annexation of Scotland and the breakup of our nation...
National mourning guidance is expected to be published by the government shortly.
That’s from an actual news source. It’s like reading a script from Brass Eye
but I wonder if having the past Prince of Wales as King
You know he isn't actually Welsh, yes?
Strange one for me, Surprisingly sad TBH she seemed like a good egg to me, despite being not too fussed for the Monarchy. RIP Liz.
Think Spotify will be getting a hammering at work tomorrow though, It'll be wall to wall Adele on the radio.
PS, Bit weird outside Buckingham Palace on the news right now, not sure why you'd what to stand around in the pissing rain at this hour?! Especially the one waving to the cameras/taking selfies ect..odd.
For all that’s gone on over the last 6 years, and before, we’re still, under our late Queen at least, a nation that the rest of the world takes notice off.
No one takes any notice of this small irtelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
As for mourning people i dont know? Of course not. Its just irrelevant to me. I have no emotion about her death bar a bit of irritation at rhe sycophatic drivel and mass hysteria
Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with?
People are often sad at the passing of someone they admired or respected. I don't think this stops being the case because they were old.
No one takes any notice of this small irrelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
Well what do you expect when your contribution to world cuisine is the deep-fried Mars Bar?
I have no emotion about her death bar a bit of irritation at rhe sycophatic drivel and mass hysteria
Surely you would be less irritated if you didn't click on threads like this one?
People are often sad at the passing of someone they admired or respected. I don’t think this stops being the case because they were old.
People are generally admired/respected for things they've done. Not just for being an aristocrat.
Well what do you expect when your contribution to world cuisine is the deep-fried Mars Bar?
LOL!
People are generally admired/respected for things they’ve done. Not just for being an aristocrat.
In shocking news, other people may feel differently.
I'm far from a flag waving, cap doffing arch royalist but I'd admit to feeling more a sense of mourning at the Queen's passing than that of my grandmother recently at the same age.
I think I need some therapy, that's not quite right, is it?
No one takes any notice of this small irtelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
I'm the last person to indulge in flag waving jingoism but that's not even remotely true.
Anyway. It's good that people who don't care have taken the time to tell us that they don't care.
Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with?
I think most people know her indirectly/directly as the Queen so a sense of loss is normal especially when she was seen as the stability of all the world events surrounding them.
Well, this thread's improved since the cans were opened. Cheers lads!
When Nelson Mandela died I was all like "WTF already get over it already like dude" too
Well, this thread’s improved since the cans were opened. Cheers lads!
When Nelson Mandela died I was all like “WTF already get over it already like dude” too
It gets better when they're off their meds as well.
I am not even remotely a monarchist (or a republican) but am surprised at how I've been feeling this evening. I worked like a dog through Covid despite feeling at the time (and still do) it was a load of hysterical bollox. The one time I wobbled was watching her first televised speech in the early days of the pandemic - we will meet again, the nods to duty and sacrifice from earlier generations, it just set me off. I blubbed like a five year old, and get emotional thinking about it even now. Good speech, whoever wrote it.
I met Charles once in my stravaiging days, just him and me on the Jock's Road (plus the sniper watching us from a hilltop). Chatted for 15 minutes like you'd do with anyone you met in the hills, then went our separate ways (he was off to do a bit of painting). Seemed okay to me.
I was sad when Barry White died.
Molgrips. Thats precisely the reaction i have seen repeatedly. No one gives too hoots about the uk
I'll be sad when Joe Cocker dies.
Molgrips. Thats precisely the reaction i have seen repeatedly. No one gives too hoots about the uk
Flags at half mast at the White House, and even Vladimir Putin, chief antagonist in a proxy war the West is fighting against him, appears to have left a respectful tribute.
You need to read the room if nothing else...
I’ll be sad when Joe Cocker dies.
Me too, but mainly because I'm worried what we'd replace him with. He's such a staple of STW.
Ten pages in and nobody has blamed Brexit.
No one gives too hoots about the uk
Well quite a lot if people in the UK do, including a majority in Scotland according to the last referendum. Despite our politicians best efforts we do still have some respect across the world evidenced by the number of world leaders paying tributes.
You need to read the room if nothing else…
Doesn't apply to STW royalty, You must be new here.
Can we crowdfund Nicholas Witchell's exorcism to drive out his inner necromancer?
He's been waiting for this day for millennia
Ten pages in and nobody has blamed Brexit.
The Queen died shortly after meeting Liz Truss, who wouldn't have been PM without Brexit.
Makes you think.
Why would restaurants be closed?
Because it's the Queen's funeral. Which will be a national day of mourning. Which although not formally a bank holiday, businesses, shops, etc., may choose to close and other events will be cancelled.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/08/queen-dead-will-schools-workplaces-and-shops-close-15640748/