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They can restart the race if there has been an accident. The commissar was quite happy to call a restart. After DQing GBR and China earlier in the evening he could hardly be considered a pushover.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 12:40 am
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They can restart the race if there has been a[s]n accident[/s] "mishap".

FTFY, according to the rules, which specify only a "mishap", nothing more.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 12:43 am
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After[s] DQing [/s] relegating GBR and China earlier in the evening he could hardly be considered a pushover.

FTFY also (sorry ๐Ÿ˜‰ )


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 12:48 am
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Team gb stated 'mechanical failure' but he bailed on the bike to seek a better start. We cheated and we don't deserve the medal. We cheated plain as simple. Forget the interview, just watch the evidence and listen to the commentators suspicions
Tainted gold

Biggest load of codswallop I've ever heard. Would you like to point out which rule was broken?

Anyone who knows track sprinting knows this is a non issue. People want to see a competition between the best in the world. They want to see peak sporting performance.
No one wants to see gold medals being won because of slippage or mechanicals that are common place in the sport.

Ok maybe he's not media savvy and a little naive but come on he's 19 yrs old. Should he really have to second guess people who dont understand the sport and might jump on him.

This just reminds me of the lazy reporting of GB road race members not being able to keep up with the peloton at the end of the race because they don't understand they turned themselves inside out fr 5 hours because no other teams would help pull a breakaway back.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 12:51 am
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You are clearly more Knowledgeable than the professional officials who's job it is to make those decisions.
Maybe you should get down to the velodrome and lend them your expertise for the next couple of days

Love the sarcasm. No damage to the bike despite 'mechanical fault'

I'm no keyboard warrior, just a straight up guy who wants team gb to win but to win with the fair philosophy the games were built on. I know this isn't popular with the winning type that has the 'do anything to win' attitude but we have the correct moral stance on drugs in sports. I'd rather loose than win under those circumstances


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 12:58 am
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If this is a none story then the guardian need to stop reporting on it. The comments page is alive with spectators who feel the same as me (and against) Oh well, not expecting a decent debate. Just hoped we'd get one


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 1:03 am
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I didn't suggest you were a keyboard warrior.

I did however suggest you know less about the rules and intricacies of track cycling than the officials (who had no problem with the restart) and all the other teams (who also had no issue with it)


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 1:06 am
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They can restart the race if there has been an accident "mishap".

FTFY, according to the rules, which specify only a "mishap", nothing more.

From the UCI's advice to commissaires:

Recognized accidents:
โ€ข Fall
โ€ข Puncture
โ€ข Equipment failure: breakage of a vital part of the bike. These are RECOGNIZED accidents.

Unrecognized accidents:
โ€ข Tightening defect: foot out of pedal, misaligned wheel or handlebars, loose saddle etc. These are UNRECOGNIZED.

Note: competitors are permitted one accident in each round of an event and may start a second time. After this they are relegated according to the level of the event.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 8:52 am
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I'm no keyboard warrior, just a straight up guy who wants team gb to win but to win with the fair philosophy the games were built on.

Do you mean to do the best performance they possibly can within the rules. To not cheat, cross any lines or take any unfair advantage.

That's what they did and I'd like you to find one track sprinter / knowledgable fan who thinks otherwise.

If the rules permitted a restart for Sanchez in the time trial would everyone have branded him a cheat because he took the opportunity??


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 9:52 am
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If the rules permitted a restart for Sanchez in the time trial would everyone have branded him a cheat because he took the opportunity??

Well, he is Spanish. ๐Ÿ˜


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 9:54 am
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WunUndred ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 9:56 am
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So, when fussballers fall over and cry when some one else comes near them isn't that cheating?


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 10:49 am
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If they fall over and no-one has touched them, then yes, it is cheating, because there's a rule against simulation. If they make the most of the contact, as happens week in week out with little complaint, then no, that's not cheating because it's not against the rules.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 11:03 am
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So, exactly the same then? Cheating fussballers, cheating.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 11:10 am
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So, exactly the same then?

No not all. He didn't pretend to fall, he lost control through a wheel slip and managed to gain enough control to fall in a safe and controlled manner. Totally different to just crashing on purpose.

Track sprint rules are there to the benefit of compitition not to the detriment of it.
No sprinter wants to win a compition by a mishap that is common place within the sport and they have prob done themselves a thousand times.

This rule was created to stop racing being a farce and compitions being decided by mishaps instead of the sporting prowess the athletes train for and want to compete against.

Again a non issue fro track sprinters and those in the know.

Non cyclists prob won't understand why GC contenders won't attack when there close rival gets a puncture.

It's all about winning for the right reasons because your the best athlete not because you gained an advantage because of a common mishap from your competitor. I think this says more about the Olympic spirit than anything else, would the rivals really want to win an olympic gold because of a tyre slip out the gates? I don't think so and they'd be the first to agree to a restart.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 11:45 am
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**Devil's Advocate** But isn't winning a sporting event all about getting EVERY aspect of the sport right, not just the fitness part? **Devil's Advocate**

I all honesty, I think his wheel slipped, lost control for a bit, felt that the best option was to crash relatively safely, rather than try and save it, risking a bigger crash, and used the get-out clause of the restart rule.

If it's in the rules, it's not illegal. His biggest mistake was admitting in on national TV. FWIW: I think the response to the "so you were pulling a fast-one?" question was down to not completely understanding the question and being carried away in the moment.


 
Posted : 04/08/2012 11:53 am
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