[Closed] These E Cigarettes in the office??

Why do some peple get so angry about other people's choices?

Yeah chances are it's [i]probably[/i] less dangerous than smoking - I'll let [i]you[/i] gamble [i]your own[/i] lungs on that one - but you (and I'd guess most of the experts) have no idea if passive vaping is dangerous

grenosteve - Member
10x Carcinogens than Fags

Neither the scientist nor anyone from the health ministry was immediately available to confirm the report

Sounds conclusive! 😆

Junkyard - lazarus
Agreed [ mutters chicken under breath ]

FFS have you seen my spelling you cannot loose [ see what I did there]

Neither the scientist nor anyone from the health ministry was immediately available to confirm the report

Sounds conclusive!

I thought that too, but then I remembered that the internet is always right! 😛

I had to tell a buddy of mine - nope - you can't 'smoke' one of those devices in my lounge - funny how some folk think they don't need to ask if it's ok - these days nobody sparks up a regular cigarette without asking - I think e cigarettes are a joke - that stuff is not nearly regulated enough - what you think inhaling some chemical vapour is 'safer'? How are you going to quantify that ? Yeah it's safer in same sense that jumping from a 10 story building is safer than a 15 .. And don't get me started on all the infantile sweet shop style names they give to the flavours .. Oh and I saw some kids about 11 coming home from school using them the other day - big suprise there then - that kids will be attracted to them... Look if the government can put fluoride in the tap water then there's no telling what the hell is in those things! Nanotech cancer viruses no doubt !!

I think that the regulation is key here - in theory I'm sure it really is safe, done properly. I'm sure there must be liquids and devices out there made on the cheap that contains / does who knows what. That is probably where the real health concerns ought to be. There's clearly a lot of money to be made based on the number of shops / businesses popping up related to it so some greedy barstewards will be doing al sorts to make a fast buck.

I'm also aware that all this scare-mongering promotes the need for regulation, and then the ability for it to be taxed.

Whether it's harmful or not it looks stupid so I wouldn't be happy about someone sitting opposite me vaping* all day, but then i'd tell them that to their face.

*has a stupid name as well!!

We have a selfish vaper?? Its banned in our building yet he carries on!! Bloody stinks it does. He's been complained about as one of co workers had an allergic reaction to his "harmless vapour"

grenosteve - Member

I thought that too, but then I remembered that the internet is always right!

Do you also have the research on the harmful effects of inhaling nicotine? Nicotine is posonious in hi dosage(more poisonous than arsenic actually), but it's not harmful in the tiny doses you get in vapour form, neither is propylene gycol or vegetable glycerin. (the later 2 aren't new substances, they've been around and considered safe for consumption for 100 years.)

You seem very sure. You should write to all the scientists who have been saying "we don't know yet" and put them straight. Let me know how you get on.

noltae - Member

Look if the government can put fluoride in the tap water then there's no telling what the hell is in those things! [b]Nanotech cancer viruses no doubt !! [/b]

😯

noltae - Member
Look if the government can put fluoride in the tap water then there's no telling what the hell is in those things!

The hysteria is hysterical at times! 😆

Cougar - Moderator
You seem very sure. You should write to all the scientists who have been saying "we don't know yet" and put them straight. Let me know how you get on.

Ask a scientist, what's more carinogenic, a cabbage or a potato? The answer is likely to be, i dunno.

I dunno is the base point for scientists, it doesn't infer anything.

That must be it.

Cougar - Moderator
That must be it.

[quote=seosamh77 ]We(smokers) have more than met ye half way here, gives a little slack!

Interesting way of putting it. Presumably you're suggesting that non-smokers should compromise a bit to allow the smokers to do what they want because the smokers are also compromising a bit and not inflicting quite as much on the non-smokers?

My hobby is setting fire to furniture. I'll meet you more than half way and not set fire to the chair you're sitting in, give me a little slack.

Interesting way of putting it. Presumably you're suggesting that non-smokers should compromise a bit to allow the smokers to do what they want because the smokers are also compromising a bit?

"We" (getting a bit tribal there) non-smokers did comprimised, you're welcome to smoke, outside, in the December rain, now bugger off :-p

You seem to be disregarding the whineyness factor of non smokers in your calculations. Plenty of room for come and go.

I think you'll find I don't 'smoke' inside.

I vape inside, and will continue to do so till told otherwise, hopefully one of you whiney little girls will be very upset (and mutter under your breath, or whinge on here) but not say anything.
If you have a problem with it, ask them you would rather they didn't do it in the office. Grow a pair

I have to woner how many of the people having kittens here over vaping are diesel drivers, have flown on a plane etc etc...

He's been told.

what will all the moaners and whingers whinge and moan about if smoking and e ciggs are banned altogether, fair point about the smoking and passive smoking but moaning about a bit of water vapour is pathetic

[quote=fallsoffalot ]what will all the moaners and whingers whinge and moan about if smoking and e ciggs are banned altogether, fair point about the smoking and passive smoking but moaning about a bit of water vapour

with a small amount of nicotine and vegtable glycol

sorry was a little strong then. veg glycol is in food and alcohol.nicoteen was not the issue with smoking it was all the other crap they put in them to try and kill me and other smokers

what will all the moaners and whingers whinge and moan about if smoking and e ciggs are banned altogether

#bloodycyclists

😆

what will all the moaners and whingers whinge and moan about if smoking and e ciggs are banned altogether

Don't worry we will come up with something. What else do the smokers on this thread enjoy, fast cars, overtaking, lager, de razors, orange 5's? There's plenty for us to ruin for you yet. 😛

I wish they would make them look and smell like a pipe. I miss pipe smokers.

Look if the government can put fluoride in the tap water then there's no telling what the hell is in those things! Nanotech cancer viruses no doubt !!

seosamh77 - Member
You seem to be disregarding the whineyness factor of non smokers in your calculations. Plenty of room for come and go.

Girl in our office does it, I have too. If anyone would rather I went outside, I would have no issue whatsoever.

10x Carcinogens than Fags

Simple rule does it emit fumes?
Yes take it outside.

Simple rule does it emit fumes?
Yes take it outside.

That's me relegating my arse after a curry to outside then 😀

I wish they would make them look and smell like a pipe. I miss pipe smokers.

They do.

I saw a pipe smoker the other day, old boy at a motorway service station. Struck me how odd that suddenly was.

Simple rule does it emit fumes?

It doesn't. It emits vapour just like a kettle.

Assuming you are boiling nicotine in the kettle.

The smell doesn't hang. At all.
Does anyone vape around you? Do you work in my office?

Look they smell and they emit stuff
You dont care, which is fine, so please dont pretend it is not doing anything.

Thankfully my office is in my house so my rules, I've never seen anyone vaping in any office I have been to in the last 2 years and I go to a lot of places. Most people I know are polite enough to take their habit elsewhere. I've wandered past a few and there were a collection of smells coming from them - not water. The other major concern is normalising it smoking used to be so that we end up with another generation of nicotine addicts to keep the cig industry happy.

To be fair though, vaping makes me chuckle; as you look like you are fellating a robot's special parts.

I'm not pretending anything, truth is nobody knows. I very much doubt there is any risk from the passive aspect as I know what's in the stuff, but as I said ill happily respect anyone's wishes not to be caped around but I won't listen to an opinionated person with zero knowledge or experience telling me to "take it outside" just because the interweb entitles them to an opinion.
BTW; the cig industry hates vaping. They are funding some research of their own.

Do people actually use the term vaping whilst speaking?

"Fancy coming outside for a vape" 😯

BTW; the cig industry hates vaping. They are funding some research of their own.

Tobacco manufacturers initially dismissed electronic cigarettes as a fad; however, the purchase of blu by Lorillard for $135 million in April 2012 signaled their entry into the market.

I very much doubt there is any risk from the passive aspect as I know what's in the stuff, but as I said ill happily respect anyone's wishes not to be caped around but I won't listen to an opinionated person with zero knowledge or experience telling me to "take it outside" just because the interweb entitles them to an opinion.

You are not an opinionated person who read a list of ingredients then...

TBH it is a debate with nowhere to go we dont know for sure what the effects are on you or on anyone nearby. Given this the prudent thing is to not smoke it indoors / public spaces.