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Meanwhile, doper Gatlin just keeps on winning and posting excellent times.
Twice caught and still cheating
Amazing how he has posted faster times as he ages and as he runs clean
Either something is not right here or PEDS are really rubbish.
MSP you can have your lalala argument on this one 😀
Did you hear his interview on 5live pre race
What a ****
And in other news the [url= http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/06/news/uci-and-wada-drop-cas-appeal-in-kreuziger-case_372770 ]Kreuziger case gets dropped at the 11th hour[/url].
Quite surprised really. I was pretty sure he was going to get a ban. Be interested to know what new information came to light at this stage. Maybe the UCI decided they didn't want to risk a CAS verdict against the bio passport?
I'd be surprised if there are any elite athletic T&F types who haven't/don't take naughty.
This phrase has been running through my head on this morning's run. It's been bothering me, I understand the sentiment and where you're coming from but think you're very wrong.
I'm strictly at the donkey end of club runner spectrum but you're still basically slurring a lot of people I rub shoulders with and some of whom I'm proud to call mates. People who competed at County up to International level and right at the top Olympic and Commonwealths.
Where are you drawing this line? People who improve too fast for your liking, people who get their England vest a little too easily? Or is it just say the Top 10 in a discipline? World Record holders?
Once you start spraying mud that broadly, there's a lot of collateral damage and your denigrating the hard work of a lot of people who've worked their nuts of to get where they are.
[url= http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/dark-cloud-of-doping-hanging-over-kenyan-athletics-1.1996620 ]Irish Times Article [/url]
[url= http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4223089 ]Thread with list by country, numbers of banned athletes[/url]
In the same way that I'm sceptical when I read Astana and Doping in a headline, when certain countries do well outside expectations in Athletes, I personally think it's probably fake. Which is pretty sad, when you think about it, but when there's so much money in sponsorship these days I'm not alone in thinking it I reckon.
Money + Sport = cheating.
Ross Tucker slaying Farah on Twitter
@scienceofsport
Aye where theres money/sponsorship to be made the top finishers will always be tainted. Im really sceptical post-Lance.
Sprinters who look like they could enter body building contests, etc etc.
Rugby, what other sports are there?
If people like Mo are top of their game clean then they are truly unique in our species against those who are talented/one of the best, then dope ontop.
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I think it's been long established that current drugs testing won't catch anyone with half a brain.
Then the fact that the African continent only has one agency matters not one bit.
it time of effectiveness in the body is 15-20days.
Yes and it can be traced in post event testing.
First point: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/16/kenyan-epo-tv-documentary-wada
Second: watch the original Panorama investigation, available on iPlayer. EPO use not detected for purposes of blood 'passport'.
To get to the top really doesn't require a lot more than a good diet, very hard structured training and good conditioning. Most top athletes know what training to do, and there is little more a coach can add. It's not rocket science! Why on earth would an athlete associate with a coach whom many are alleging illicit practice? Hmm I wonder...
It's just like Armstong/ Ferrari.
To get to the top really doesn't require a lot more than a good diet, very hard structured training and good conditioning.
Bullshit, if that was true then you should be able to pick anyone at random off the street and they would be able to compete and win at international levels.
Right. So the only point of coaches is to act as pharmacist? Nice broad brush slur.
Bullshit, if that was true then you should be able to pick anyone at random off the street and they would be able to compete and win at international levels.
Utterly, totally and completely agree. Did the fast kids at school get training? No, they were just fast. Or strong, or good at jumping or throwing or swimming or kicking or sliding or riding....
EPO use not detected for purposes of blood 'passport'.
As long as the cheat dopes below known levels.
And is not detectable out of its "glow time" despite surfers claims. Which means that the only likely way to catch someone using it is through random out of competition testing, and that is rather dependent on the national anti doping agencies ability and willingness to test [b]and[/b] prosecute accordingly.
And rather like recreational drugs (bath salts) with new "performance peptides" there is a bit of a battle going on between chemists and the doping laws.
Who was the female British Athlete who 'forgot' to attend 2-3 tests?
To put the missed tests in perspective- if yours or my job/pay cheque depending on tests you'd be there. To miss 1 is bad luck, to miss two? You'd be bricking it with the missed first if you were genuine.
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Who was the female British Athlete who 'forgot' to attend 2-3 tests?
Christine Ohourogu (sp?)
You seem to think it was done accidentally on purpose. Can you tell us how you know this? Your infallible spidey sense?
Three times. Just bad luck I guess.
Cheers binners, just snotted a proper 'number 11' when I saw Rio giving the thumbs up.
Or a faulty doorbell, according to MoFa.
If only they had a more robust system...
All I could think of when I heard that he 'hadn't heard the doorbell' was Tyler Hamiltons admission in his book that they used to hide behind the sofa when the testers came knocking.
I [u]really[/u] hope he's clean...
This news report from a couple of years back makes interesting reading in light of recent developments:
I really hope he's clean, I really do. But, I've seen far too many sports people prove to be dopers to be overly surprised if he's not.
Being brutal, he did seem to turn from a good but not great distance athlete to a world beater. Now this could be training, it could be others losing speed, a new coach or it could be something else, we don't know. In fact, you can add Froome into this train of thought as well...
There is a fear that the systemised culture of doping within cycling, as starkly revealed by the Lance Armstrong US Anti-Doping Agency dossier, has spread to track and field.
Haha, this amused me. As if somehow cycling is the root of doping and it's not been in athletics all along! 🙂
Froome into this train of thought as well
Froome rode for years with bilharzia and started winning once healthy
FFS look at Berties and Nibbles at Astana for the smoke in cycling at the moment
I wonder if this is affecting sales of quorn foods.
.There is a fear that the systemised culture of doping within cycling, as starkly revealed by the Lance Armstrong US Anti-Doping Agency dossier, has spread to track and field
Its been in track and field for many many many years.
As with many sports you don't get fame and fortune for finishing 4th or 5th. So to compete you often need to go all out to win..
I wonder if this is affecting sales of quorn foods.
Every cloud etc...
There is a fear that the systemised culture of doping within cycling, as starkly revealed by the Lance Armstrong US Anti-Doping Agency dossier, has spread to track and field
It's widely agreed that widespread, systematic doping spread to pretty much all sports when the iron curtain came down, and east German and Russian coaches started to work around the world, passing on their 'techniques'....
FFS look at Berties and Nibbles at Astana for the smoke in cycling at the moment
Oh I am, don't worry about that. Astana particularly are a whole world of "interesting" at the moment, have a read of the [url= http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/06/the-secret-pro-on-the-giro-there-were-days-when-youd-just-despair/ ]Secret Pro[/url] for a take on that.
Chhers for the link and the decision and performances surprised [ and yet did not] everyone
This generations Postal sadly.
It's widely agreed that widespread, systematic doping spread to pretty much all sports when the iron curtain came down, and east German and Russian coaches started to work around the world, passing on their 'techniques'....
By who? Just as an example it's well known many US athletes at the LA Olympics were doping. We know that cycling was riddled with it in the 50's and 60's. West Germany won the world cup on dope in 1954.
As soon as a sport becomes professional and people make a living from it, there will be pressure to maintain your career at all costs, so doping is just a natural extension from hiring the best coaches / physios etc. I would expect there is doping in all professional sports. To get to the top you still need genetics combined with a huge amount of hard work and dedication. Many won't make it very far even with drugs (plenty of low level cheats caught).
Froome rode for years with bilharzia and started winning once healthy
Yeah, just as well doper 'doctor' Bobby J spotted this and diagnosed it for him. Otherwise somebody coming down with a dodgy blood disease (to explain wild bloods?) and having a miracle transformation from somebody about to get dropped from his team to the podium of a major tour and becoming the best cyclist [i]ever[/i] might look a tad, well, suspicous, eh? Especially as virtually everybody else is cured with just one treatment. Kind of unlucky for it to drag out for years...
Keep on drinking the koolaid.
I'm with cbmotorsport on this one, first thing I thought of was tyler dodging the 'vampyres'...
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11666512/Mo-Farahs-fall-from-grace-continues-apace.html ]Just read this[/url] which I found interesting. Its all very disappointing tbh....at least no one is pointing the finger at Paula Radcliffe. That would be the end for me!
Its like watching a car crash in slow motion - sadly when anyone wins now I just see a cheat. Cycling, Athletics etc.
at least no one is pointing the finger at Paula Radcliffe
Not used Google much then? TBF I don't there is any direct evidence and it is more circumspect than that against Mo.
@ metal heart not sure what your argument is here beyond mud throwing- have you some evidence here? If you have I am happy to read it.
You seem to suggets he was doping whilst accepting he was so crap he was about to be dropped.
explanation of "duck and dodge" or "duck and dive" here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm
makes the doorbell story look unconvincing
It is unconvincing. Testers don't show up, ring quietly once and then leave if the person doesn't answer.
There are two things they want to ensure - first that the test takes place if at all possible so that dopers get caught, second that the athlete doesn't miss a test for silly reasons like not hearing the door bell.
It is unconvincing. Testers don't show up, ring quietly once and then leave if the person doesn't answer.
He/she records a 'strike' and leaves.
Its nearly as damaging as a positive test as we can see now with Mo and the 'totally innocent British female Athlete' with three strikes...
anti-doping officials would have been under orders to make several attempts to raise him
UK Anti-Doping officials would have been instructed to ring the bell of his Teddington home again or knock on the door around once every 15 minutes during the hour in which Farah was required to be available to provide an out-of-competition sample.
I wonder if this is affecting sales of quorn foods.
it takes a certain kind of person to purposefully take that horrible synthetic stuff into their bodies
Oh dear... 'Didnt hear' or hid?
Can someone revive the 'Mo Farah running away from things' meme to serve this purpose please?