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Sunglasses and helmets give me headaches .
The side bars push into the side of my head and put pressure around my ears.
You might be OK , but its a deffo no-no for me .
Keep a pair of sunny's in your pocket for terrace use though .


 
Posted : 15/12/2012 1:44 pm
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Cheers Singletrackmind both very good points!


 
Posted : 15/12/2012 2:31 pm
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I much prefer goggles with a helmet. They're warmer and keep the wind out, also as stm mentions, the arms of glasses rub inside.


 
Posted : 15/12/2012 2:46 pm
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edit: I have two trips this year: Tinges, France and Jasna, Slovakia. Yay

Did we talk about this already? When you going to Jasna and who you staying with?
Have you been before?

Me and a mate are going last week in Feb. looking forward to it.


 
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Did we talk about this already? When you going to Jasna and who you staying with?
Have you been before?

Me and a mate are going last week in Feb. looking forward to it.


Yes mate. I emailed you last year when you were planning your first trip. I'll be there March.

There's another big new lift this year, opening the whole other side of the mountain! The area will almost double. Only ever managed to get over the other side twice before because the one access lift would never be on


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 10:55 am
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Ahhhh right. Cool. Sorry this thread and external emails are getting so long I forget who said what to who. 😀

Yeah looking forward to the new lifts. I follow Propaganda on Facebook and they've been posting frequent updates and photos (some of which I've reposted here). We made it over once last year but it was blowing a gale.

We're staying with Dan and Clare again at Chalet Slovakia. Really looking forward to it.
Travel is a bit more hassle this year as RyanAir aren't doing Edinburgh flights so we're travelling back via Krakow.


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 3:02 pm
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Being a first time skier will i need a waterproof backpack? as i have never been before im not sure wht to expect, i guess i will need some water and maybe somewhere to strip off/on layers?
i have an alpkit gourdon i use for mtb, so that should be ok for 2 people?

forgot to say getting bloody exited now 🙂 5 days to go!!!!


 
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My ageing heli pro isn't waterproof.

Just put anything you want to keep dry inside a small dry bag.


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 3:15 pm
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Never used a backpack here - except when hauling camera gear.

Just layer sensibly.


 
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If cruising the groomers/staying in bounds/on piste then no backpack required I reckon - they are awkward & cumbersome when riding the lifts and if heavy they can alter your COG and therefore impact technique - especially when learning.

If off-piste/backcountry, then yes, carry a backpack with shovel, probe, water, food & layers etc


 
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As above, i never use a backpack on piste. Never really needed to strip off or add layers. Water will freeze in a camelbak pipe. I just stop for coffee break and lunch, and make sure fluids are topped up then (especially if up on a high glacier!).


 
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I took my bike bag with me last year, it isn't waterproof which didn't matter. I found it quite useful for sticking layers and stuff in. I got a neoprene cover for the hose and this stopped the water from freezing. It was a bit of a pain on lifts if I had clothing in it but I soon learnt what I needed to wear so that wasn't really a problem.


 
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If cruising the groomers/staying in bounds/on piste then no backpack required I reckon - they are awkward & cumbersome when riding the lifts and if heavy they can alter your COG and therefore impact technique - especially when learning.

If off-piste/backcountry, then yes, carry a backpack with shovel, probe, water, food & layers etc

Agreed. Cards/phone in a drybag in a zipped pocket. Camera is waterproof anyway, but is in an outer pocket and secured with a mini-karabiner. Other kit in pockets? Well, always a lip balm and small tube of sun cream (Serre Che gets very sunny!). Sunnies for lunchtime [s]ogling[/s]posing. Spare goggle lens in goggle pocket, but only if weather looks changeable, otherwise I stick the right one in for the day and go play.

Oh, and one of these - http://www.wipeoutstore.eu/Serre_Chevalier_Wipeout/p494374_2524907.aspx
Brilliant thing to have! Piste map and goggle cloth combined. Of course, being an Oakley fetishist, I only ever use the real cloth, but these have a major advantage over any other piste map - They don't fall apart when wet, they don't blow away on a lift (Clipped on to goggle cloth clip in jacket) and are just all round brilliant. Money well spent, IMHO.


 
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Being a first time skier will i need a waterproof backpack?

I'd try and avoid skiing with a backpack if I was you tbh!!! It can throw your balance and weight distribution way off, which is key to learn well. Maybe bring one up with what ever extras you need and leave it in a locker which are usually around the gondolas somewhere?


 
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*adds to cart*


 
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Rucksacs are for getting stuck on chairs with; you now have to wear them on the front on some chairs in my local resort after a monitor with 35-years experience got hooked up and dragged under the chair breaking several ribs.

It's been a little icy. I heard shouts and looked up to see a fallen boarder gaining velocity. I wasn't directly below so joined in with the shouting and watched as board and rider shot past, and parted company (no leash obviously). The board continued base down heading for the people hanging around the park. Those in direct line weren't wearing helmets or headphones and scuttled out of the way. The deaf ones just stood there oblivious as the board then rider flew past.


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 7:29 pm
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watched as board and rider shot past, and parted company (no leash obviously).

How the heck did they manage that????
Double catastrophic binding failure? Or just not strapped in properly to start with?

(haven't worn a leash in years btw)


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 9:52 pm
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Maybe he was using those crappy qr bindings?


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 9:57 pm
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Or, in France, it could have been one of these;
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Awesome carving, but so much fail! Helmet and glasses? Gaper...


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 9:59 pm
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Helmet and glasses works for me on occasion.


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 10:08 pm
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I bought my helmet this summer while in Morzine, luckily I had my Crowbars on me which I swap out the lenses for the white stuff. Fits like a glove 😀


 
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What Crowbars do you have as I didn't think snow lenses fitted dirt goggles?


 
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It wasn't QR bindings as the heel cups were clearly visible as the board went down. I suspect he wasn't strapped in properly and got caught out by an easy blue going to very steep red scraped down to ice. He was falling for long enough to have the released the board if he'd wanted to. I can only speculate on the reasons but the fact is that after about 200m of high speed fall, board and rider parted company.


 
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CFH that photo almost looks photo shopped! How the bloody hell is he gonna be able to transfer into the next turn 😐 .


 
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I_Ache, your right they don't make snow lenses for MX Crowbars. I just remove the tear off pins for my Ski lenses.

I prefer the fit of the MX versions with my lid as they don't have the slight peak in the middle of the goggle. Plus the lenses are at least 50% cheaper.


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 10:58 pm
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he was falling for long enough to have the released the board if he'd wanted to.

That would be a very stupid thing to do! (But quite possible if he was a noob idiot)


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 11:18 pm
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Konastona so you use the std single unvented lenses for skiing? Don't they fog up?


 
Posted : 16/12/2012 11:45 pm
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I_Ache

No fogging issues as they're double layer and the frame is vented. It seems that you can only get clear now but I have 2 Persimmons and some kind of Iridium ones that I bought with the goggles (2008)


 
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Bucketing it down in Les Gets

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Posted : 17/12/2012 12:45 pm
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Mmmm... That's where we'll be I_Ache, but not until March.

Still they claim to have 65/160cm already and expect another 50 over the next two days - so shall we call that a decent base.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 3:04 pm
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I am going on the 23rd Feb igm, when in March do you get out there and where are you staying?


 
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I try not to carry a rucksack, but do occasionally. Especially if we're having a "ski all day no lunch stop" day, where I end up carrying lunch for everyone all morning. This usually only happens in France where you need to sell a kidney to eat out every lunchtime! I cram it into a really small bag though and usually get a volunteer to carry it in the afternoon.

Jacket purchasing tends to be based on the number and size of pockets first, then look/colour to avoid the need for carrying a rucksack all the time.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 3:19 pm
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Les Negs with Ski Famille on the 16th - 4th time with Ski Famille and we've been on the bikes a few times as well.

Been before?

And oh yes, my wife and I met at a Paddy's night do, so it'll be 19 years the day after we arrive. I'm looking forward to it.


 
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Staying in the north end of Morzine for the second year in a row and for my second time skiing. Everybody else apart from my kids have been skiing for about 20 years or more so I have some ground to make up this season. If I can get to the end of the week with no broken bones(like last time) and keep up with my wife without crashing I will be very happy.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 4:04 pm
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We're basically opposite the skating rink in the centre of Les Gets.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 7:29 pm
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Sorry CFH !
A little piccy from Champagny en Vanoise at 1250m.
Alot of rain forcast for Saturday though, but just look at the pow.

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Posted : 17/12/2012 8:20 pm
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Yay looks like I am going twice this season. Cheapo boarding trip soon then skiing later in the season.

Latest question: anyone been snowboarding in Kitzbuhel? Sounds like it might be a bit flat and tracky in places? Thinking Mayrhofen might be better though the deals aren't as cheap.

Cheers 🙂


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 8:58 pm
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no rucksack it is, any tips for reasonably priced glasses from a real shop preferably. got some aldi jobs which are great for the mtb, not so sure about snow though..


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 9:04 pm
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Dobo, goggles are your friend for skiing. Seriously. Sunnies for posing, goggles for the snow. Bargains abound if you have a hunt.

Failing that, if you must do glasses, I'd look at these;
http://www.endura.co.uk/Product.aspx?dept_id=138&prod_id=228
Straight arms to get under a helment, three lenses for differing light and most of all, useful on the bike for the remaining 51 weeks of the year.

But, really, get some Oakley goggles. And some Oakley sunnies. Crowbar goggles in black with a ski-black Iridium and a persimmon lens, then, and this is vital, some custom Holbrooks with Fire Iridium lenses. Or Tens with Tungsten Iridium polarised. ETc. etc. etc.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 9:12 pm
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Only 75 sleeps until St Anton

Yeah baby!!!


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 9:30 pm
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Latest question: anyone been snowboarding in Kitzbuhel? Sounds like it might be a bit flat and tracky in places?
Not me personally, however I was skiing with a snowboarder who definitely struggled with the many flat sections. I used to pull him along with my pole and then skate off very quickly and leave 🙂


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 10:05 pm
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goggles are soo expensive, hoping wont need them pootling around the slopes, i guess if i really need them i'l have to either make do or buy some out there. not sure my aldi are up for posing either though 🙂


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 10:37 pm
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Thanks Jane, think we might give it a miss.


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 10:39 pm
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Dobo, cold wind on your eyes at speed, etc. Goggles are like face shelters. Great when super bright and great when it's turbo-puking it down at -15!


 
Posted : 17/12/2012 10:39 pm
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grum - most (not all) of the Austrian resorts have areas of flat, which of course is difficult on a snowboard.

Goggle lover here too. Having forked out a fortune on a pair of Oakleys many years ago, they still look new and very rarely fog up and have never iced up, worth the expense as mine still look new and do what it says on the tin.


 
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