Been meaning to post something on plantar fasciatis for a while as there was a question up there somewhere ^^^
Anyway, I suffered quite badly from it for a year or so and even now it's still lurking in the background but I know how to manage it and the triggers. For me, what started it was getting into running in shoes with crappy footbeds and poor arch support (and most footbeds in running shoes are pretty average at best).
Recovery was a combination of working on calf stretching and strengthening, rolling with golf balls and frozen water bottles, avoiding hard floors in bare feet (massive trigger for me - always wear Birkenstocks around the house now!), and using better footbeds in my shoes. I now use Sidas 3feet high footbeds in my running shoes as I've a high arch and seem to make a massive difference. I also now have powerstep 3/4 orthotics in my work shoes as they are almost completely flat and without any arch support and I went through a bunch of different "smart" shoes that were awful and crippled me within a day of wearing them.
I know that what I have just achieved doesn’t compare with some of the epic runners on this thread but I have finally completed the couch to 5k plan. 8 months ago, I could ride a bike all day but couldn’t run 1 step due to a couple of ops. I have had to stop and start lots of times due to minor injuries but it’s great to be running again in my fifties. New goal is to break 25 mins! Thanks to everyone for keeping me motivated
Claudie, as I keep telling my wife when she looks longingly at other people's times, it's only your efforts that are of any relevance to you.
Well done mate, that's a great achievement, onward and upward.
Festival des Templiers in town this week.
13000 runners, 17 races.
Today I am running (walking) the Mona Lisa, 28km and 1400m elevation.
Anyone doing the Fell Relays on Saturday?
Well that was proper good fun. 8 miles of unpleasant off piste bogs, tussocks and steep hillside, with the occasional sheep-trod for light relief. 2h+ And 2200’ of climbing gives an idea of the terrain. Absolutely nowhere on the results board but a sprinkle of smug points coming ahead of our open team 20 years younger. Really well organised by Dark Peak and bumped into an old mate I’d not seen in forever.
Slightly OT but I rode today for the first time in a while after pretty much exclusively running for the last 6 months. Blitzed it, PR’s all over the place. Haven’t felt that strong in a bike for a long time.
Aye, me too Jam bo, hardly biked at all in the last 2 years really, but once a month I go out biking and I'm sooooo much stronger, out the saddle attacking stuff and can climb all day.
Been coughing quite a lot after a few minutes running. Like there’s phlegm I can’t get of. Quite irritating. Might try an inhaler before running as heard this can help. Don’t think it’s too serious but will see what happens.
Did not feel like that when I got back on a bike after 9mths. Felt fat, slow and by christ did my arse hurt.
Recovery still going ok albeit slowly. Have found that walking has improved things, progressed to running alternate KMs, did 20k off road today just walking the ups.
Need nerve flossing exercises to get the tibial nerve loosened off if anyone knows any.
First cross country race last weekend, county championships relays, 4 man team 2.4 mile lumpy route through park and sand dunes, was bloody brilliant and I ran fairly well, even overtook a couple of guys, lol!.
Only downside is that it's a bit like cyclo cross, ie. it kinda takes up your whole day for a very short run. I'll keep doing the odd local race, but I'm o travelling to do it.
Opposite end of the scale this weekend coming, Jedburgh 3 peaks ultra, 38 miles including some Eildon hills action. I'm not bothered about my time this time tbh, just looking forward to getting this and a couple of half marathons out the way, and then into a hard winter training hopefully resulting in some improvements next year.
Still not really had a proper go at the sub 20 parkrun, despite saying I would....
It's interesting seeing how many posts there are on here about plantar fasciatis - I have this (mildly thankfully), which leads me to think there could be a link to 'bikers who also run', possibly due to the old cyclist thing of shorter than normal ?hamstrings? due to the way your muscles get used to the pedaling position.
I wonder if anyone's done any research into this?
I find i just need to keep on top of stretching after exercise and as in some of the post above - avoiding barefoot on hard floors.
Anyway - I'm doing my first marathon this Saturday night - the Dusk Till Dawn from Hope in the Peak district - mostly off road, at night, quite hilly, so no real pressure to achieve any particular time, other than get back before dawn and avoid the Grim Reaper 'broom waggon' who will be sweeping up the 50 mile ultra runners! (I'm doing the 'easier' marathon option).
That was tough.
Turns out relying on the fact I did an ultra of longer distance 6 weeks ago isn't a valid replacement for not getting the miles in...
37.5 miles, 4000ft climbing 8hrs 30, about an hour slower than I should be, but decided early on it wasn't happening, so just enjoyed my day.
Spent the whole time chatting to other runners, ultra really is the most sociable of pursuits.
One particularly inspirational 60 year old was telling me she loves ultra, only been running for 3 years, and was in a wheelchair up until the age of 18 due to non functioning kidneys.
The word legend is definitely suitable in this case.
Nobeer, 37.5 miles deserves respect in my book. Truly amazing, along with many people on here.
Again, here on planet slow, I’m going out on my first non-cycling club run tomorrow and attempting to run further than any man has ever run before. Any man inhabiting my body that is, pushing the boundaries to 10k!
I got my old knee pain back on Thursday’s track session, with some groin pain on the side for added flavour, so hope I can make it.
First run in a couple of weeks for me due to bad weather, bad cold and good rugby. Ran a brutal 13 miles - a run out and back again with the out half being mainly downhill and with the wind behind me. Coming back (800ft of climbing) was painful. Feeding up on crepes and coffee now.
37.5 miles, 4000ft climbing 8hrs 30, about an hour slower than I should be, but decided early on it wasn’t happening, so just enjoyed my day.
31 miles here (aka 50km), but 7500ft (2300m), 7:35 total time... and absolutely shattered now. Summer triathlons are great training for running on the flat, but clearly absolutely useless when you hit the trails!
Still, all good fun 🙂
Haven't been commenting on this thread for a bit as I've been on a break but been following it and nice to see folks are out there getting it done.
Did the OMM A-class this weekend having done 1 run in the last two months. My partner hadn't run since May so delighted to come in 2nd over the two days. Although having said that it had **** all to do with running being more about navigation and coping with knee deep heather.
Can we not say **** now?
Seems not. Even the minced oath made famous by Father Jack is now outlawed. *eck.
Aye, the swear filter is a bit embarrassing, really.
You doing the OMM at Largs Spin? Horrible terrain!
Some epic long runs there, well done you crazy ultra runners.
My weekend race was small beer in comparison, illuminator 25k (night trail race) which I entered last minute as they'd announced it was the last year they were doing the route, and I wanted a final whirl at beating my PB of just over 2 hours.
This year they had different distances (8k / 15k) which joined the 25k route near the end at the top of a dodgy stretch of steep mud/rock singletrack, made it interesting hammering down that at full throttle, dodging 8k walkers and fun runners
Considering I'd not done any proper training, went really well, 1'56 which I thought would likely be top ten. Got a surprise in the prize giving - called up for 1st vet prize (though the results online the next day showed I've been demoted to 2nd vet/7th overall).
Well done Mike!
You doing the OMM at Largs Spin? Horrible terrain!
I grew up in Lochwinnoch so I knew exactly what to expect! It was a bit of a trip down memory lane for me as the overnight camp was at Muirshield Country park and I spent large parts of my childhood mucking about there.
Oh man - schoolboy error yesterday. Went out at around 1430, thinking I’d knock out a 20km offroad. The idea was to go 10km along familiar terrain and then turn around and come home. A beautiful cool sunny day and I was feeling good so at 10km, decided I’d throw another 5km in and make it 30km.
Completely forgetting that the clocks had gone back...
So at around 20km, the sun kinda went below the sides of the river valley I was in and the temp dropped quite a few degrees quite quickly. Jeez, I was freezing, low on water and no snacks and it was getting dark. The last 5 or 6km were through woods in near darkness - probably not sensible in the greasy conditions, albeit a trail I’ve run loads of times. Frightened the shit out of a few evening dog walkers too. 😂
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Muppet.
Has anyone purchased a pair of Next% yet? And if so, anything you can say to put me off buying a pair myself?
I am considering some Next% as I like to compete on a level playing field, and a large percentage of the folk I'm often up against are in them. My 4% have had a good bit of use and are showing some signs of age.
I'm a bit late to the thread after my latest outing - York marathon, due to having a week off painting our new loft extension and not being sat in front of a computer! I wasn't expecting to be anywhere near as quick as London as the training hasn't been at the same level, and I'd only managed to get 3 long (15+ miles) runs in. I thought something around 2:25 would be a realistic target, and depending on who else turned up, that might give me a fair chance at a podium. I was a little disappointed in the week before to discover that Paul Martelletti (a Kiwi 2:16 marathon runner) was entered, so any outside chance of a win was pretty much out the window...
Weather was pretty decent, cool with a fair breeze, not the scorching conditions I prosper in, but at least it wasn't raining like the year before. I wanted to keep the leaders within sight, but also not go out too hard resulting in detonation. Came through halfway in about 71:30 knowing that I wasn't going to sustain this pace all the way, and at about 30km lost sight of the leader, with 2nd getting away from me too. Both 2nd and I started to fade at a similar rate, slowing down significantly, but with the distance between us staying fairly constant. I was sure that someone from the chase pack was going to pass me at any moment, but a bike marshal who was nearby for the final few miles assured me that I had a healthy gap. This was until the top of the very last hill, less than half a mile from the finish, where I discovered that 4th had virtually caught me, so a full sprint was required to hold him off.
First was an elite du/triathlete, a training partner of the Brownlees running his maiden marathon in 2:22:XX, who looked relaxed and in control the whole way. 2nd 2:24:47, I was 3rd in 2:25:00, so may have been able to close on 2nd had I realised how small the gap was, and hadn't relaxed into settling for 3rd. 4th was 2 seconds behind me, and 5th was 3 seconds behind him!
Next up London 2020!
Bloody hell - some fine achievements up there folks!!
That's another planet TF! Superb sir.
That's 5:30 minute miling TF, that's completely incomprehensible - chapeau!!
Or 3:27/km and 5k in 17:14.
STUNNING!!!
. I was a little disappointed in the week before to discover that Paul Martelletti (a Kiwi 2:16 marathon runner) was entered, so any outside chance of a win was pretty much out the window…
Seems like you beat him anyway! Well done, mindbending pace that.
Well it would seem I'm running again. Very slowly. Did the work commute on Monday (24k) and ran in today along the Camino del Norte and over the mountain (18k), and on Sunday did one of my fave loops. The knee/lower leg is behaving but still not right - doesn't hurt while running but still can't squat down properly or fully straighten it. Everything else hurts though, after 2 months off no surprise that hips and ankles are protesting. Descending very gingerly indeed.
Ooft that's an amazing pace well done TF
Well done for getting back on the pony after injury. I’m keeping them at bay, just.
Did my first 10k ‘club run’ on Sunday. Easy pace, a few stops to wait for stragglers but made it in one piece.
Proper hill sessions last night - blasting up about 200m of 1 in 7 and recovering down. Buried myself but quite happy I was the fastest in group and dropped the guy at the club I am chasing for pace. I’m under no illusion though as he is a very good runner and will beat me on anything over 200m. It’s good to make new friends who are runners. Did some sprints after and we paired up and did well. Legs are like lumps of raw meat hanging off today!
I do like a good hill - was always my forte on a bike.
Or 3:27/km and 5k in 17:14.
It would seem my 5k splits were 16:31, 16:48, 17:10, 16:35, 17:07, 16:49, 17:34, 17:47 so just over a minute variation from fastest to slowest as I was suffering towards the end.
Paul Martelletti didn't have an amazing race by his standards, coming 7th in 2:27:XX Quite pleased with that scalp 🙂
Turboferret has the most appropriate name on the forum it would seem.
That's just mental! I can't even run 5k in sub 20mins never mind sustaining that pace for a marathon. A fine effort indeed TF!!
Almost embarrassed to post a new parkrun PB in light of above achievements!! 22:06. First parkrun for a while. Felt aweful! Been feeling rough this week and sure there’s more in the tank but need to not start too quick as blew up massively about 3k in.
Managed my first sub 20 minute 5k today(19.59) I'll not be claiming it though, as it was downhill and the first half of a 10k, the second half was hellish! 🙈🤣🤣🤣
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Almost embarrassed to post a new parkrun PB in light of above achievements!! 22:06
Dude, that’s awesome. Well done.
A PB is a PB - nicely done 🙂
Aye, agreed, 22 mins is not to be sneezed at, well done sir.
A new PB for me yesterday - running with my daughter in the Junior parkrun 😂 - she’s been really ill with a chest infection for the last few weeks but just getting over it in time to run a regional cross country she qualified for a while ago so wanted to do some training for once. Fingers crossed she competed well tomorrow.
Great work TF, that's awesome running...
The 2nd and 4th place runners are local to me, the lad who was 4th (Gareth) does an impressive amount of training and competing and averages over 140 mpw when he's in full on mara training, so a great effort on less than optimal prep...
Might see you in the London championship pen next year.
So then fellow runners, talk ultra's to me.
Debating next years goals, there's various half's in the diary, a spring marathon once I work out which one, but then my eyes fell on an off-road ultra...
40 miles on trails, 10 hour cut-off, late May, seems spot on to me.
So, some questions:
40 miles in 10 hours seems reasonably doable for a 3:45 marathon runner, or an I vastly underestimating how bleak the extra 14 miles will be?!
And on that note, how horrible are those miles? 18-22 miles in a marathon is always unpleasant, does it relent or is it 14 miles of pain and discomfort.
Your thoughts as ever are gratefully received.
Lunge; make sure a lot of your training is off road. Folk underestimate how hard it is running on trails compared to roads.
Templeton 10 yesterday; fantastic club and well organised, friendly race but what a sod of a run! Only 10 miles, but an utter shitebag of a 10 miler.
Gosh there are lots of very impressive runs on here. I did a parkrun on Saturday. Not my best time but I did beat some other old people.
