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Longest run today. 11 miles off road. Not particularly fast at 9:20m/mile. But still happy with that considering I'm a novice runner. First run with a hydration vest too. So much nicer having stuff within reach. Bit of a sore knee but probably just DOMS.
Well done @69er_Gav!
But:
Glad to have ticked it off the list but zero interest on repeating it
Most of us say that when we finish, but then that little demon pops up on your shoulder and starts whispering ideas about how you could bring that time down, perhaps you could do another one, be a good excuse for a long weekend in XXX, etc 🙂
Anyway I had a fun, shorter run today. 16.5km up a local mountain with mates, about 1800m climbing in total. I seem to be getting my fitness back after a month off, just hope I'm not hobbling around tomorrow with DOMS like I was last week.
@mogrim - you're not wrong, that demon has already appeared now the knees have recovered a little. I'm sure I'll do another at some stage.....with a bit more effort.
16.5k is a huge effort considering that incline! Though I'd imagine plenty of fast hiking on the ups as opposed to running per se
16.5k is a huge effort considering that incline! Though I’d imagine plenty of fast hiking on the ups as opposed to running per se
Yeah, lots of fast (and not so fast!) hiking on the climbs, which is fairly usual and good training for upcoming trail races.
Noticed today that when I had a slight ache on the outside of my knee, if I lifted my feet more while running, the ache went away for a while. Seems odd but think it's tightness from yesterday's ride where I did push quite hard on a few hills.
Does make me wonder if I'm dragging my feet a bit though.
18 miles for me today, mostly trails and no to many hills, took me to 73 for the week. The trails were in great condition, like summer running.
I maintain that the full ache in your legs after a long run if one of life’s better feelings.
In my continuing efforts to bankrupt myself with a “simple and cheap” sport
Anyone here use either a Coros Apex or Polar Grit X? (Currently watching DC Rainmaker reviews)
Friend has the Coros and likes it, though no more than the Garmin he had before. Battery is good, functionality fine, no issues.
@lunge the first Speedgoats were a strange shoe but some people liked them. The 2nd version was universally hated, far too narrow, various other flaws, which put people off them. I think I have the 2nd version which are well past their best, but have been ok, if narrow for me. The 3rd version is supposed to be way better, and folk who have hated the 2nd, have liked the 3rd, so might be worth trying on a pair. Good cushioning and grip, assuming they're the right size for you. I think I ran the Red Bull Steeplechase in them, yes, checking the photo I did
I ordered some Nike ZoomX Invincibles reduced from £160 to £98 the other day which arrived this afternoon. Not run in them yet but they are super squishy, so looking forward to seeing how they fare on long runs and if they leave the legs very fresh afterwards. Got a couple of days in Austria now where there is snow on the ground, not necessarily the ideal testing ground!
@turboferret,
Thanks for the thoughts on the Speedgoat, I might try them and use the Hoka returns policy if needed.
Re. The Invincibles, I quite like mine but they are a strange shoe. Super soft and very unstable, particularly at speed. I guess they’re designed for slow recovery runs and for that they work well.
@lunge - I had a pair of Speedgoats v2; they were extremely narrow! I've had multiple pairs of Hoka road shoes so was a bit surprised by how different the fit was! Now using, Saucony Peregrines which are a nice mix of low-weight, protection and grip!
Does anyone have experience of The Lap - Windermere, I'm entered for September!
Also, going to try to go 'fast' at my local 10k ( https://affrunningclub.org.uk/flitwick-10k/), never like short events!
Has anyone had any luck pinning shin splints on a weakness elsewhere in the kinetic chain and sorted them by strengthening there?
Through the recent parkour thread I came across this video about shin splints. The premise - if I understand it correctly - and please excuse my summary - is shin splints are caused by wrong hip position and bodyweight back rather than forward; legs step too far forwards and not far enough back to get enough ankle plantar flexion which would allow the muscles along shin to relax as the ankle propels us forward.
Would be interested to hear what others think?
I went for a run Sunday bearing some of this in mind but found it difficult to control my speed and was done by 5k.
Thanks for that, I'll have a look. For some time now, I've been working on forefoot to midfoot striking and shortening my stride (from my previous over striding heel striking style). It's possible I'm not getting enough forward propulsion via the glutes.
Has anyone had any luck pinning shin splints on a weakness elsewhere in the kinetic chain and sorted them by strengthening there?
My fix was to run off road, when I restarted with c25k I did it round the local park on the grass, now run mainly off road.
Two parts to the theory, softer ground gives more, uneven ground makes your stride uneven and you think about placement more, it also makes you run more with the forefoot.
Could be absolute tosh
Well I'm still not fast or fit but improving, right up to 6.7km into last nights run when I went over on my ankle. Proper sprain (hopefully). Still not comfortable but easing.
Was aiming for running up the 3 brethren by Easter which I think was doable if done slowly.
Completef my first 5km run last night. Surprisingly, it was OK. I managed 29:06, which I'm pretty happy with as I finished pretty strongly and the next time I want to get under 29 minutes.
Gone and entered the Allendale Challenge to focus my mind, 8 weeks to prep for 26 mile off road. Yikes!
Looks like a decent route, I've always quite liked the North Pennines, quiet, empty, boggy and miles of tussocks.
Not sure what I'm doing this weekend, weather may make going for a 20 miler somewhat laborious and may take a punt on Wednesday next week for that run. Heavy rain and strong winds all day Saturday, strong winds and low temps Sunday. But then, the long range for Wednesday next week isnt great either so I could easily end up low level somewhere just to get the time on my feet. Almost feels like cheating to do something without lots of climbing.
Think I've also settled on getting a Polar Grit X, I'm reluctant to buy another Garmin as I've bee disappointed by all 3 products I've had from them, Forerunner 310XT (which was actually the least annoying), Forerunner 225 (which never syncs to my phone so have to plug it into my laptop, plus I can only get the charger to stay on with electrical tape), Oregon 700 (which syncs perfectly but I've never achieved the battery life a friend gets despite copying his settings and using the same batteries). Plus, my main battle on long efforts is eating/drinking, and I'm tempted by the adaptive fuelling wotsit along with some basic back up nav features.
If anyone sees a good price on a Montane Minimus Stretch (large) let me know.
Start Fitness LOVE10 gets 10% off at the moment. Just bought my first running pack, went for the Innov8 race ultra pro 5. Sick of looking at every review know to man on Salomon, OMM etc.. Hoping it serves me well for the Allendale Challenge and whatever else I sign up for.
I haven't run for about 10years due to various injuries and other training stuff to be getting on with, but it's reached the point where my daughter is in the cross country team and I can't face being a dad cycling while she runs next to me.
So I bought some mega expensive running shoes and logged into the Garmin couch to 5km run with a hope to be able to do a 5km on March 12. I am lucky enough that we have a treadmill at home so I've been doing it all on that, but somehow after my last run I recalibrated so by the time I finished my 4.8km run on the watch is done 7.1km on the treadmill. I'm not breaking records but I'm pretty pleased to be this far in without breaking down and to be able to run for 55mins without stopping. Gonna be sore in the morning (already sore!), but going to bed pretty pleased with myself.
Wife doesn't give a crap so come on here to "brag" 😂
Running is tough! I started from nothing almost two years ago. Late last summer I attempted a 10 mile run (but lost the footpath in a ploughed field and much trudging ensued), and got a 5k in under 22 minutes at my first park run. Then this Winter I've been struggling below the knees. The discomfort in shins/calves/ankles no longer lasts long after the run (like it used to when I started) but seems to come on quite easily during. Currently trying shorter runs around 10 minutes, but more frequently - 2 days on, 1 day off. Probably will turn out to be too much as well, but hoping not!
I did my first proper race (done a couple of local cross countries back end of last year) since my London debacle/fail/non-starter calf injury. I am obviously race rusty. My mate persuaded me to do the Stamford Valentines 30K last Sunday. It was pretty windy (well very windy) and it rained for much of the last part of the race. I felt comfortable at the start but clearly went out way too fast and struggled a bit towards the end, but it was a good challenge to push to the finish and come in first V45 and average under 6min/m after such a long layoff (about 5 months). Clearly I have some work to do on race craft and managing my effort, but fairly pleased with getting back out there.
The course was also a tough roller coaster without the added hinderance of the weather. I need to decide if I am going to do a spring marathon now and also what is available and not completely booked out.
Ignore - wrong forum
Allendale Challenge! That takes me back. I walked it with an ex back in around 1992ish. I didn't realise it was still going. Hmmmmmm 😉
That is a rapid comeback @alanf.
If anyone doing the national XC race at Parliament hill next weekend. We've got a small group going down from our club, the talk of train beers suggests we won't be troubling the pointy end...
@lunge I'll be there. First time ever running the Nationals - raced at Parliament Hill a few times, London champs and Southern champs, so looking forward to lots of rolling terrain and mud!
Unfortunately the last round of the Surrey League XC has been cancelled today due to lots of damaged trees and dangerous branches at the venue which is disappointing. We were looking to claim the title for only the 3rd time, and with a crazy lead in the points it was going to be emphatic, so a bit of an anticlimax. Went out for a 20 miler this morning instead, and for the first time since Country to Capital took fluids, which I threw up after 16 miles... Clearly need a bit more practice, don't want that to happen during the 100k race in April 😮
A textbook XC race this afternoon. Off course distance, mud with the consistency of porridge, masses of standing water and a rank headwind.
Tough run that was.
Anyone want a free Forerunner 225, doesnt quite have the battery life I need, charging connector needs electrical tape to hold it in place, never syncs via Bluetooth so I plug it into a laptop. You may have more luck with connectivity.
I say free, I mean just postage costs.
7.5 mile sunny saturday, then 7.7 mile in gales, & rain Sunday round Hexham. Ankle deep streams on the back country lanes, thank the lord for merino socks!
Up to 7km today. Don't get how you guys can run further! Was absolute toast by the end 😃
I'm currently a big fan of little and often at the moment.
A couple of weeks back, due to experiencing lots of lower leg & ankle discomfort, I mentioned my intention to try out short ten minute runs, two days on, one day off. It's been going well.
I was just too inconsistent last year, got my first 10k in February, then several over the course of the year, but when I tried to be more consistent in November/December with two to three runs per week, expecting to still be able to do 4 miles each time, it was a big struggle and felt like a big set back.
And to be honest, it's almost the best bit, it saves sooooo much time and energy for other things 😀
But I'm enjoying it now and rather than forcing myself to go for a run, I want to, my body wants to. It's been tempting to try more days on and less days off, but I've decided to go for a minimum of 15 minutes instead.
Finally back to running so finally back to this thread - after doing well and upping my mileage in early December I succumbed to a really bad cold that I couldn't shake then various other things conspired to stop me from getting out (including lack of enthusiasm). Anyway, I am back on the fitness trail with two spin classes last week and a 2 mile run at the weekend which kinda hurt (as I would expect after 12 weeks out) but still managed a hilly course at 9.15 mile pace so I'll be back out again this week and again at the weekend. Here's to some drier and warmer weather!
Welcome back to running everyone, always love running this time of year, it feels like you've earned some good runs by slogging through the winter months.
What events and goals have people got planned for this year?
Signing up for the Ormidale 10k here on Arran in April.Then maybe the Goatfell race, if it goes ahead in May, just to have done it before I'm too old 😉
Ran every day in Feb, covering 115 miles. Had first few days of March off and did a 20 miler on Sunday. Legs were battered but managed a nice 5 mile walk Sunday. Back at it tonight, see how i feel. Allendale Challenge first weekend April, after that not sure what else to enter yet.
Hi everyone, did my first fell race on Sunday - Ilkley Moor. I absolutely hated it halfway through as I just wanted to stop for a bit and catch my breath but carried on, got in just outside the top third so not too bad result. It was only 5 miles but it had tonnes of gradient and tech and was much much harder than I imagined. I was blowing out my arse
As with all these things, no matter how punishing it is its still a massive buzz and you feel great when its over. I loved the whole experience and was chatting to a teammate at the finish about how it compares to MTB races - favourably - the value for money is amazing and you still get a proper race buzz.
In the nicest possible way, the fell racing community are a bunch of nutters from all walks of life. Just great fun to be around. Everyone's really nice and a lot more ladies than MTB - which is great
I'm planning on doing as much racing as possible this year but in the 5- 15 mile range due to knee niggles. I think the next race for me is Rivvy Pike in April but there's quite a few mid week races throughout the season near me (north lancs/Barlick)
Love it!
Agree with lunge - I love running this time of year; even more so when the leaves come out on the trees and spring arrives properly. Most of my running is done in the mornings before work or family time and that's meant in the dark with a headtorch for the last few month. Been some pretty bleak and brutal ones across the Peak District moorland at 0630!
But had my first few headtorch-free runs already and so much more enjoyable. Throw in a good sunrise and a wildlife encounters and it just sets you up for the day!
I was about to type "no big goals for me this year" then remembered I want to do the Edale Skyline route and also the Abrahams Tea Round (Lakes) this spring. Both of those will be epic by my normal 10k ish standards! Sheffield half in a couple of weeks to get out of the way first though.
What events and goals have people got planned for this year?
Edinburgh marathon. Just started week 4 of my 15 week plan. So far so good. Looking to improve on my (pretty comfortable) York 2018 time of 3:18 and run <3:05
But had my first few headtorch-free runs already and so much more enjoyable. Throw in a good sunrise and a wildlife encounters and it just sets you up for the day!
I'm generally an after work runner and have had the same, it's starting to feel like I can get an hour in after work without staying on the roads or getting the headtorch out. Club runs will soon be off road as well.
I realised the other day that I think I might be a runner now. A rubbish one, but still.
I've always though of myself as a mountain biker that does a bit of running to help fitness, but I think I've been out on the bike twice this year so far, and I've run two or three times at least most weeks.
Big thing though is that I've found myself really looking forward to runs, and going out for the sheer joy of it instead of suffering round telling myself that it's good for me. Moving somewhere with nice routes out the door has definitely helped.
Not fast or far (certainly not by the standards on here - 10k in an hour kinda level) but I'm loving it.
So thanks running thread folks, you've helped me fill an MTB sized gap with something I now enjoy almost as much.
Oh - as for aims, nope! I've decided I'm not fussed about training, or goals, or getting better - I'm just gonna run for fun and see where I end up.
I realised the other day that I think I might be a runner now. A rubbish one, but still.
It's not about who is going the fastest, bit who is having the most "fun"
I'm hopeful of getting a 20+ miler done in the Ochils this weekend, trying to set myself up for the long Munro days in the spring. Hopefully tomorrow and hopefully the rain forecast isnt too bad.
Oh – as for aims, nope! I’ve decided I’m not fussed about training, or goals, or getting better – I’m just gonna run for fun and see where I end up.
Go with what works for you. I've not done an event since 2012, and have no intention of doing another one in at least the next decade. Nothing like other people to ruin a day out 😝