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@lunge. I use a Buffalo windshirt which is just basically a pertex shell. I use it for the conditions you describe. It looks/feels like a rag, packs up ridiculously small, but by golly it works. Other pertex shells are available if the Buffalo cut does not suit.
On a side note I done a snowy 12km this morning in the hills. One of them days where everything just worked and the run felt good. Good start to the year.
I'm trying Maffetone style running. Not sure on the long term effects but I'm enjoying not going out and feeling wrecked afterwards. My mileage is the same, but runs take longer, not an issue in the current climate shop happy to continue with his methods.
Decathlon would be another place to look lunge.
@lunge, did another 12km in the Streak 7s today and they felt great, do you think that Nike will discontinue the streak range now in favour of carbon plate shoes? Seriously considering stocking up on some...
In other news, Garmin seems to behaving itself today after turning it off then on again, will keep an eye on it.
lunge, my favourite running jacket by far is a cheap pertex windproof from Mountain Warehouse, cost maybe 10-20 quid in a sale. Bright yellow for visibility, full zip so I can put on and off on the move and easy to tie round when not in use. Pockets for hat and gloves. Holds up well to anything short of the most grim cold and rainy weather.
Think it's this one but I never paid as much as 30 quid:
@nostrils, I’m just not sure there’s a market for them. They used to be the Nike racing shoe, but racing shoes are now almost all high-stack, carbon plated shoes. They’re generally more forgiving and faster too.
I love mine, they feel amazing to run in, particularly for short, fast stuff, but they can beat you up a bit, the Vaporfly’s and the like are much more forgiving.
Howies jacket reduced. Maybe better to colder days..
@lotto Thanks for that, my watch apparently uses the Sony chipset so that could explain it, its been fine today though oddly.
DC Rainmaker reporting on the issue now too who is a bit of a Garmin expert. Sounds like the issue will resolve with the next couple of syncs.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/01/gps-accuracy-impacting-devices.html
I have copied Sean Conway's january challenge (1km on the 1st Jan, 2km on 2nd of Jan, 3km on the 3rd etc) to raise money for charity.
Towards the end of the month - day 20+ its going to be getting brutal. Does anyone have any advice on how to recover for back to back daily running? Increase protein intake?
You'll probably find by the time you get to day 20, if you're not injured your body will be adapting and you may start to feel good.
My mate tried something similar last March (but miles not kms) and got to day 22 before lockdown foiled him (he had to shield). He said towards the end he was feeling great and it was only logistics that were getting complicated.
having said that though, good quality fuel, good quality rest and looking after yourself are all going to help.
If you've not get any recovery leggings, might be worth looking into them. I was sceptical but I do think (anecdotally) that they help. It's not a super boost, but when I've not worn them after a long/hard session, I seem to feel it more the next day than when I do.
Oh and good luck and try and enjoy.
Thanks - i hope it does come to a logistic only issue!! I have some recovery leggings from years ago - i will give them a go.
Aye, I agree with alanf, you'll get better as the days roll on, good challenge though, I'm sure you'll do it. I'd definitely mix it up though, try different routes, new areas of town, and mix up surfaces too.
Good start to the year for me, 32 miles done in January, lets see how long it lasts!
Anyone use toe-socks to run in? I get the occasional blister between toes on long runs and have just ordered a pair of these to try.
Wondered if anyone had used similar before?
Anyone use toe-socks to run in?
Not personally but the missus swears by Injinji for ultras.
The Decathlon ones look like a bargain compared to those.
Got a pair of those last year and they're fine. Also realised that normal socks are mostly fine for me too, and I've got loads from presents so wear more of them.
I used to use Injinji toe socks and loved them. Only stopped because I prefer wool socks, and the wool Injinjis are the best part of £20 a pair which was a bit rich for me!
Toe socks? Yes, Injinjis are pricey but worth it. Running an arctic ultra where you need to wear oversize shoes to stay warm and blisters between toes can be a real problem. I also wore a pair of the merino ones for 5 days as inner socks when fat-biking in extreme cold - lots of pushing. Now my regular running wear - the knee length compression ones are great for trail running too.
used Injinji for years but this time of year its Sealskinz! been off the MTB for a couple of month due to nerve issues so running is my main 'thing' at the moment.
trying out my new pair of Innov-8 X-Talon 210 that arrived today. ill be solo running in the local woods. having spoken to various people recently the common opinion is that there is no way they would run around the woods at night, especially alone....wonder if this just feels normal to me because of MTB. anyone else do it?
Far safer than running through town at night!
I like running solo in the woods at night. Means no bugger else is around to hear me talking to myself and wheezing...
Yeah, I like an off-road night run, will be off on one in 30 mins or so in fact.
Hoping the group will be frozen enough to avoid the mud.
I wanted a new head torch with red rear light now that I'm doing more road running at night so I ordered the Alpkit Gamma 3.
Received and tested today and the rear light is not very bright at all, I would liken it to a cheap rear bike light.
Can anyone suggest an alternative? £30 tops, the Onnight 710 from Decathlon looks quite good...EDIT - scratch that, I mistook the battery as being a rear light lol
Their Ironman style chest light has a red rear one on the battery pack.
Might work well with what you've already bought.
A slow trail half marathon today - 22km of this!
Do those chest lights work? Whenever I see someone with one, they look like they are swinging all over the place.
Do those chest lights work? Whenever I see someone with one, they look like they are swinging all over the place.
They're pretty good on the road but not ideal off road. The beam is wide enough to see on quiet roads where you have got a good surface and no sharp corners. I tend to wear a head torch and a chest light running off road, thinking of it like a bar and a helmet light on the bike.
I like them as another way of being seen by cars, nothing beats a good head torch in my opinion.
Having used the Alpkit Gamma 3 a few times now, I think my previous post was a bit unfair, I was thinking solely of the brightness of the rear light on its own but coupled with the wide beam pattern on the front, you are quite noticeable running on the roads. For £20 I am impressed.
Headtorches are always best to be seen by cars, a quick look in the direction of the driver grabs their attention.
I never ran with a headlight and my old evening run home(12 miles) took me along a road with no pavement for several miles. I must have been mad....
I do think they are only useful if they are powerful enough to light the ground in front of you otherwise I dont see the point. I have had enough incidents over the years to just assume nobody can see me and I act accordingly.
If a session calls for 800m to be run in 3:26, what pace (in min/km) would these be run at?
Thought I had worked it out but Garmin is making me doubt my (admittedly ropey) maths after completing the workout...
6:54 mins/mile, 4:18 mins/km I reckon.
Can anyone recommend any shorts which limit chafing, especially for longer ultra style efforts? I've done vaseline etc but would appreciate any recommended shorts.
Thanks
i found any shorts with lycra inner shorts do the trick
did a trail half marathon yesterday. first time running that sort of distance in zero drop shoes, seemed fine, no problems today. have spent a good couple of years transitioning from regular shoes though.
was nice to run on frozen mud, so much nicer than the slop.
Can anyone recommend any shorts which limit chafing, especially for longer ultra style efforts? I’ve done vaseline etc but would appreciate any recommended shorts.
Mrs Lunge swears by the shorts with Lycra shorts built in.
I prefer just to buy as shorter shorts as possible, shave my legs and use Glide for long runs.
Never had any issus that way.
Thanks all.
Are the lycra 'inners' visible as if I were wearing compression shorts under normal shorts or are they more of a y-front length?
Typed in all seriousness! ☺️
Are the lycra ‘inners’ visible as if I were wearing compression shorts under normal shorts or are they more of a y-front length?
Most are visible to some degree.
Make sure you've got good undies on too, the Decathlon running boxers are long enough to help too.
Most are visible to some degree.
Make sure you’ve got good undies on too, the Decathlon running boxers are long enough to help too.
You don't always need undies on if it's got a lycra liner, I've got some shorts (from Decathlon) that I've used for ultras and no problems. And then I've got others where they're essential. Still, the running boxers you mentioned are cheap enough that you can try both ways.
as Mogrim says no need for undies with a decent pair of 'built in lycra' shorts. in the winter i use running tights (full length) with shorts over the top, again no need for undies.
I run in Runderwear's long boxers (under 3/4 length Aplkit tights, normally) after getting horribly chafed by Decathlon running boxers.
Bugger. I know it is only early in the year but I had a bit of a streak going but now I've got a deep pain in the front of my right hip where sitting down is painful. The hip is also clicking a lot.
Is this an impingement? I've tried googling and youtube but there is so much crap to wade through and my regular stretches don't seem to be helping.
Would appreciated any advice, as I really don't want to be without running whilst locked down.
Cheers.
X-Bionic shorts great for ultras - good for wearing under tights in winter too.
One of the things I liked to do in winter (if you live in the countryside) is run without lights - a bit scary at first but your eyes adjust and you can make out shapes and things. Used to run along the canal towpath - the water reflects the sky so easy to see the edge.
I run in Runderwear’s long boxers (under 3/4 length Aplkit tights,
Are the Alpkit tights good? Am guessing they are the Koulin ones?