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@alanf I actually bought the Adidas from eBay, brand new, at a small but not silly premium over retail. I think the Adidas are probably the more reasonably priced silly carbon race shoes, probably one of the reasons they sold out so quickly. I did see lots of sellers on eBay trying to punt them on for almost double the original price which is a bit galling, but par for the course...
The names are confusing, a friend of mine thought he'd bought these until he noticed that he'd got the Adizero pro. Does anyone understand their shoe naming nomenclature?
I may have also bought another pair of Next% 😮
@turboferret - indeed it's all a bit confusing. I usually wear Adios and have done so for about 5 years. The Adizero pro seem very similar to the Adios in that they don't have a massively stacked midsole. The Adizero Adios Pro don't resemble the Adios I have, but hey, someone in the marketing department must get it!
I got the Adizero pro back in April thinking they were the 'new' marathon shoe, only to discover later that they were just a stepping stone to the Adizero Adios Pro that you have. Having said that though, they do feel nice and springy when I've worn them, so I expect the Adios Pro to be another level on that.
The allure of new shoes is always tempting. I must resist as I have numerous pairs on the go currently in various stages of wear, plus about 6 boxes of new shoes awaiting there first trott out...
Just reading, not good, fingers crossed.
For the uninitiated, is it easy to get lost where you can't be easily found?
For the uninitiated, is it easy to get lost where you can’t be easily found
Absolutely.
When the clag comes down, its incredibly easy to make a simple navigational error (which is even easier to do at pace) which can result in you being a fair distance from where you think you are.
Hill runners don't generally carry much in the way of survival gear, all about fast and light (please DO NOT read that as a criticism or a judgement, it's just a general point) so all it takes is a tumble and injury and what started off as an afternoon run becomes something completely different.
It's not unusual for MRT to find casualties incompletely different Glens etc rather than where the casualty thought they were.
Been thinking about the guy a lot, pray for his safe return.
I have done this 00's of times as I am sure have many others. With good fitness comes confidence. I have ran (not as isolated as this) in areas with just a t shirt, shorts and vest, a jacket if it is a bit chilly at the top and passed people in full winter gear. who probably thought I was mad. When you are going at a fair clip and full of energy you just expect to summit or do a round then get back down.
Not meant as a comment on this incident as I know nothing I just hope we hear some good news.
For the uninitiated, is it easy to get lost where you can’t be easily found
Definitely, there's an area near here (La Pedriza) which usually kills a couple of people every year - the fog comes down and it's a very disorientating place with a lot of not particularly high cliffs but certainly big enough to do serious damage. On your own in winter even a sprained ankle can be a serious injury.
I've done those four Munros (as a walk) and apart from the climb to the first top on a clockwise circuit it's pretty non-descript sort of terrain. Not so much Kinder Plateau but a broad domed ridge with lots of small outcrops, very easy to wander off line. Even on the drop back down to Glen Lyon I was thinking "have I got the right ridge?" until I dropped out of the clag.
Having been missing since Tuesday, it's not looking good. If he had gone wrong then he'd drop to the Loch Rannoch area to the north so would presumably have come across habitation.
Bugger.
Heartbreaking stuff, that's taken the wind from the sails. 😔💙
Not been in here for a bit. I know people have recommended the decathlon chest light previously for winter/ night runs. Just ordered this in amazon pre-black Friday sale thought worth a punt at that price.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07R5R41W6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dlC_4tQNFbJRNN7CP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@northshoreniall my father in law was showing me his new light which looks identical to that - seemed like reasonable quality and nice and bright.
I had a decent training run yesterday - wanted to get both a long run in and combine a session which had been set by our club coach. 20 minutes at half marathon pace, 5 minutes recovery, 10 minutes at 10k pace, 3 minutes recovery, then 8 x 15 second strides. 8km warmup took me down to a good part of the Thames for the stretch from Putney to Richmond, then back through Richmond Park and Wimbledon Common looked like it was going to be about 38km total. Towards the end I thought it would be rude not to tag on a few extra miles to take it up to the full marathon distance, and finished in 2:38. Considering the terrain and the workout I was pretty pleased - a few years ago this would have required perfect race conditions, not a 4:18am start, solo, headtorch, off-road. It's remarkable what a few years of consistent training can do 🙂
That is very impressive TF, very impressive indeed.
I'm slowly coming back into things after 3 weeks off injured. I most suprised about how hard it is when you've had a few weeks not running, even though I've been on the turbo trainer most days instead.
Last 2 club runs for a while this week so that'll be a good test of progress.
Well, I've bitten a particularly strange bullet for me.
Nearly a decade ago, in 2011, I ran the Grand Raid des Pyrenees - 50 miles, 5,000m ascent. Got offered an entry in the January, trained for the year, come the August I lined up for it, and while it was neither fast nor pretty, I completed it.
I went back in 2012, having had a lousy year with niggling injuries that I never got sorted out, and DNF'ed.
It's been in my mind to try again at something similar for a couple of years - a significant birthday late this year and the nice symmetry of 'a decade later'. Getting back into Orienteering again over lockdown has meant I've dropped a chunk of weight and found a little enjoyment in being out on foot again. I'm still fairly slow - sure as hell not getting near turboferret's pace! - but I'm out and plodding more regularly, and need something to keep me moving over the winter.
So, with that in mind, I'm entered for both the Great Lakeland 3-Day in May and the Lakes in a Day Ultra in October next year.
All, keep at it. Some good days, some bad. Been a bit under the weather this week and found it tough doing 13k yesterday - hard to breathe. Kept thinking I was in a different body to the one that ran 50km about 3 weeks before. Think I’m tired.
Did a 5k pace test the other day for just 1km in the middle of a run. Aiming for 3:59/km and got 3:52 I think. Felt it, but it might be possible. It really is a goal of mine to get that sub-20 5k before I fade away.
@turboferret. I saw that run on Strava when I was having my shredded wheat. Massively impressive, and that’s just getting out the door at 4am. Some days you feel good and keep going. I like those days. They’re the ones to remember, not the crap ones.
Did a 5k pace test the other day for just 1km in the middle of a run. Aiming for 3:59/km and got 3:52 I think. Felt it, but it might be possible. It really is a goal of mine to get that sub-20 5k before I fade away.
Aye, that was a goal of mine too, I really wasn't far away during lockdown, but the last 3 months I've really not run much, only averaging about 10 miles a week, so pace has dropped off significantly as such, sadly.
It'll take a good hard month of structure to get back to it, need to get the finger out. Between work, uni stuff and running with the wife (through the dark months) I don't have as much time as I'd like, need to make some time.
Run of bad luck continues here - was all set for a hernia op this week but looks like junior brought covid home from nursery last week so my wife and I have both tested positive. At least 2 weeks off running, then a hernia Op sometime early Dec - I'm going to struggle to make those last 85kms to get me up to my goal of 1000km this year! 🙁
I've been a bit on amd off over the last few weeks, tweaked my knee carrying MiniMonkey up the stairs and lack of time have made it tricky to get out. Made the effort to get out 3 times a week for a couple of weeks, then a friend we'd seen last Sunday tested positive on the Wednesday. Nuts. Mrs and MiniMonkey had symptoms but tested negative prior to that, but we've been self isolating since to be on the safe side.
Having not run for nearly a week I'm now getting twitchy, and really tempted to trot round the block tonight. I'll hardly see anyone, and it'll do wonders for my mental state but...
(For reference, we've had no contact from test and trace or the app, so going by official guidelines we don't need to be isolating; we're just trying to do the right thing).
I'm off to Bahrain on Thursday with work and will have to quarantine on my return to the UK for 2 weeks. As some of you know virtually all of my running is done starting before 5am and I have zero contact with anyone when I'm out, generally barely see anyone. What's the view on continuing my running while quarantining? My daughter will continue going to nursery, my son to school, so my wife will be dropping off and collecting, so the household won't be isolating as a whole...
Tricky. From a sensible, personal view I'd say go for it. But if it were me I'd be making sure it was as low risk as possible - stay within easy distance of getting yourself home if you get an injury etc.
Also, are your neighbours likely to dob you in?
What’s the view on continuing my running while quarantining?
Personally, I'd run and just make sure the route is quiet.
I'd also not tell anyone that I was doing and make sure my Strava was private mind you...!
@turboferret I can’t see an issue with it at that time in the morning but would watch for the neighbours!
On another note, after starting running in lockdown I managed my first half marathon distance on Friday. Did it in 1hr 58 which is lame compared to TF’s effort but I’m chuffed.
Running that early (and the fact its running), seems fine and as good as isolation.
I defo wouldn't, and didn't when we were isolating. Sorry if that sounds all preachy, but isolation should be just that.
Thanks for the feedback guys, always useful to have an additional point of view. I'll crack on 🙂
What are the guidelines?
For me the guidelines say I should be social distancing, we're choosing to isolate because it feels like the right thing to do. Not sure for quarantine from outside the country.
Gah! Thought I was getting a race in a fortnight, now cancelled. Wooler, if anybody else was in.
I agree with Nobeer although when I was as keen as Turboferret I may have taken a different approach. This is coming from a guy who removed his own plaster cast which was put on to treat a stress fracture so I really do get the running obsession thing....
I'm hoping to have the green light next week after a further xray. Its been a 3 months and going from 65k a week to nothing. I know I need to build up slowly, but any thoughts to how much to start with again?
I’m hoping to have the green light next week after a further xray. Its been a 3 months and going from 65k a week to nothing. I know I need to build up slowly, but any thoughts to how much to start with again?
Sounds pretty similar to when I came out of lockdown, although I'd been using the turbo. First couple of weeks I kept it to 30min runs / 3 times a week, and then built up from there.
I know I need to build up slowly, but any thoughts to how much to start with again?
Start counting in miles 🙂
I always preferred running regulalrly, even short distances, felt better than longer runs but infrequently. I always liked to run every day or at least 6 days a week so running 5-6 x 3 mile runs was better than say 3 x 5 mile runs
I always preferred running regulalrly, even short distances, felt better than longer runs but infrequently. I always liked to run every day or at least 6 days a week so running 5-6 x 3 mile runs was better than say 3 x 5 mile runs
Agreed!
Can anyone recommend some replacement insoles for my running shoes?
They don't need to be anything special, just a straight replacement for the standard ones that come in my Nikes. No need for additional support or anything like that.
Due to some weird foot shape, I tend to rub an area on the outside of the foot away after 250 ish miles and it inevitably leads to blisters.
My normal approach is to just tape my foot up, but if there were half good replacements for not much money I'd be keen to know about them.
Decathlon (at least in Spain) sells insoles, no experience of them but they come in various sizes + support types.
Edit: in the UK too: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-running/c3-running-insoles/_/N-fnqeea
Just got these links about ITBS causes and treatment, from Running Physio. Worth a look if you've ever suffered from this:
https://www.clinicaledge.co/blog/infographicitb3
Run of bad luck continues here – was all set for a hernia op this week but looks like junior brought covid home from nursery last week so my wife and I have both tested positive. At least 2 weeks off running, then a hernia Op sometime early Dec – I’m going to struggle to make those last 85kms to get me up to my goal of 1000km this year!
Do you have a garden. I was in the eact same situ 2 weeks ago. Managed to get 5km in on a few days joggin round and round and round and round the garden. Drove me mad and was suprisingly tough on the knees and ankles (al the turning) but the fear of missing out on my 1000km this year spurred me on. Good luck!
I had every running injury known to man but ITB was the one that really finished me off. Early 40's still running sub 34 mins for 10k and it came on after one run. Didnt run for 11 months and after trying everything (including a cortisone injection) if just disappeared never to return again, just like my competitiveness.
Its a strange one my mate had it lots of times and he just had the odd week off and it subsided.
It's my birthday next week and that means Nike have sent me a voucher for a fairly substantial discount...and they have Vaporfly's in my size.
I can feel a birthday present coming on!!!
I've done it, after the best part of a year of threatening too, I've just spend £180 on a pair a running shoes. Birthday VaporFly's for Lunge!!!
As someone at the running club said, "the shoes you can't afford, for the PB you won't get, at the race that will be cancelled".
@lunge welcome to the 4% club 😀
A slight change of ambient conditions for my running with a work trip to Bahrain. Temps aren't crazy, 24-27 degrees for the time I'm running, but the humidity is pretty oppressive. I faded horribly on a 27km run on Sunday morning at a fairly steady pace. Looking at my stats later saw that my HR was climbing to race marathon rate while running nearly a minute/km slower 😮 Ran significantly slower on Tuesday morning, and for interest weighed myself before and after the run - 2.5kg sweat loss in 24km, 1h 48m, so it must have been considerably more on Sunday.
This morning I took a drink and stashed it in some bushes while running some laps, which helped enormously. Despite hitting 173 on my 2km hard efforts, it was back to 120 for my cool-down afterwards, so 500ml of electrolytes made a world of difference 🙂
@turboferret, Not just 4%, next%! My only challenge now is how to explain to my wife what I've bought. I mean, I did get a 25% discount on them but I suspect that won't cut the mustard.
Happy birthday
N+1
🙂
The inquest in to Chris Smith suggests he died from Hypothermia. As has been said, often we'll go out under prepared, but hopefully this can be a stark lesson for us all to pack a small survival bag or similar and other safety essentials, especially at this time of year. The lessaons learnt are applicable to all outdoor activities.
http://testedtodestruction.blogspot.com/2020/02/go-outside-sit-down-wait.html