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I'm annoyed because I've been trying to have a discussion which you have been trying to derail.
I laid out my thinking as clearly as I could. I linked data where it was available, opinion pieces that showed people within the Church saying what i was saying, and I even linked to where the Pope voiced his concerns about the US Catholic Church.
When I asked you to read these links you just went, 'Nah, I'm good.'
If you had a difference of opinion on what I've been linking then that would be one thing. You are just flat out ignoring everything I'm posting and having sly and not-so-sly digs instead.
It's irritating.
You know how to can see who last posted, how about not clicking if you aren't interested? There's loads of threads that I don't click on because I'm not interested.
But don't let that stop you from making a comment about Pope Francis 💡
Yeah. There's no need to patronise me thankyou.
I don't have to comment to be interested in the thread.
I'd like to be able to read the thread, the different perspectives, the different links, without you two making it personal and having verbal scraps with each other every. Single. Post.
I'm annoyed because I've been trying to have a discussion which you have been trying to derail.
What on earth are you talking about? What discussion were you trying to have? This thread had been dormant for two days until I posted the link!
And how on earth did you come to the conclusion that I am "trying to derail" the thread by posting a link which was released today concerning Pope Francis's appeal to Gen Z.
It seems completely on track to me. Personal attacks I'm not so sure. Tell me what in this article is derailing the thread :
Anyway, here is Pope Francis' opinion about the church in the US. Unfortunately he doesn't use any data at all
TBF it's not the biggest thing that the Pope asks people to take on faith without providing hard evidence
What on earth are you talking about? What discussion were you trying to have? This thread had been dormant for two days until I posted the link!
We spent two days starting with Mefty going, 'Hallelujah, young people are coming back to the church!' and then me going, 'Are you sure they aren't coming to the Catholic Church because of Jordan Petersen.'
Throughout that discussion you flat out refused to read anything that was posted and kept posting the same, 'Jordan Petersen isn't even a Catholic and it's probably not young men anyway and [insert non-sequitur here]...' It was honestly impossible to even tell what you were objecting to because it was so random and mostly just an excuse to have a dig.
I've posted at least three links where practicing Catholics who are explaining why they are seeing an increase in young men in their own congregations have directly referenced Jordan Petersen as being a factor.
And that's without going into all the links about Catholic culture in the US.
You chose to ignore all these and then have yet another wee dig with you 'plausible explanation' comment. Conveniently with plausible deniability.
You are either in the discussion or you are not. If you are not then let us know and stop responding to me at all. Every time you respond to me I just assume it's because you want to be part of this discussion.
If you just want to post your own links that have nothing to do with the discussion the rest of us are having then go right ahead. However, if you choose to post links that are very closely related to the conversation you have apparently not been involved in for several pages then you have to expect people to assume you are trying to be part of the discussion.
So, are you in or out?
If you just want to post your own links that have nothing to do with the discussion the rest of us are having then go right ahead.
Thanks, but my link was about Pope Francis, I didn't think that I was interrupting any on going discussions, and not least because no one had posted anything for two days.
I really don't know why you think I was having "a dig" at you. I honestly wasn't thinking of you when I posted what I thought was quite an interesting link concerning Gen Z views on Pope Francis.
Hope that clears up any misunderstandings 👍
Brothers, sisters - let's not end up excommunicating each other!