[Closed] The people of England are angry- revolution/riots on way ?!?

Not really. The vast majority are absolutely fine.

Meh!

too much digital surveillance for there to be an actual proper revolution.

Stop watching the news.

The atmosphere has changed. Like when you are in a pub, and it's all fine, then something is said, and instinctively everyone recognises a darkening.

There has been A LOT of news recently, all of it bad.

I overheard my young niece and nephew in the garden today and felt very sorry for them, I don't know what kind of future they have ahead.

I'm not angry.

I'm good.

Were're slightly miffed here in Wales as well.

*corbyn is a danger to society

Lol

No chance of revolution. You kids are too soft to face the consequences. You can't face the consequences of a referendum or an election.

I'm not angry either.
Just very, very disappointed.

Not sure if there's revolution in the air, but does seem that we're on the cusp of a possible major change in the way politics and the public interact?

Last time I remember a similar feeling was back in the 80s, but I was not really old enough to understand the nuances and nothing really came of it other than riots and strikes.

Part of me hopes the current atmosphere DOES trigger something...

There has been A LOT of news recently, all of it bad.

Nope.

Some kids said, "Nice bike, mister" as I rode past along the dusty drover's road earlier this evening. So we chatted for a bit, and as we were all heading the same way, rode back in to the village together. Meanwhile, people are firing up the BBQ and enjoying a Friday evening with friends and family. Lovely evening.

The vast majority of people aren't angry. In fact, on a day like today, the vast majority are in a rather fine mood, I'd wager.

I've had to wait 30 mins for my Chinese takeaway, it's an outrage.

im just angry, contractors are allowed to install dodgy cladding,the government and councils fail to act, theresa mays a laughing stock and just a pre programed talking head.

Thankfully people are leading a revolution, against the idiots in charge who have this week totally failed to help those people who have lost everything, their homes,families and personal possesions .

WOULDNT YOU BE ANGRY.

Drac - Moderator
I've had to wait 30 mins for my Chinese takeaway, it's an outrage.

Have you got the curtains open just a tiny bit, so you can see it arrive?

colournoise - Member

Not sure if there's revolution in the air, but does seem that we're on the cusp of a possible major change in the way politics and the public interact?

The system is old and corrupt. You need to elect someone from outside the system, someone not constrained by its rules. Someone who can't be bought or controlled. Someone who understands people. Someone who can fix what's broken.

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I'd recommend, in the nicest possible way OP, stop reading the papers for a bit. Look local. See what good is going on in your own back yard.

The way your heading...that way madness lies.

What an interesting question. I too was sensing such sentiment earlier today.

Boy are they angry or what ?

I suspect "what" rather than "angry".

I'm tempted to take to the streets myself and demand the overthrow of the entire political infrastructure. But on the other hand there are some shelves needing put up and Doctor Who is on the telly tomorrow.

oldtalent - Member
Not really. The vast majority are absolutely fine.

I'm alright jack !

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Project's grammar makes me furious.

shifter - Member
Project's grammar makes me furious.

I seem to remember he's a teacher. Apologies if I'm wrong, but scary if I'm right!

It always seems it will never happen until it happens.

But make no mistake, the establishment is rattled and it's changing, the general election result shocked a lot of people, me included, Crobyn the old-school socialist was meant to be blown into the weeds, okay he didn't win, they can talk it up as much as they like by the Tories still spanked them, but it made it close enough that May would jump into bed with the only party with MPs who'd have them, a bunch of God Bothering Flat Earhers who support terorisum, the very thing they attacked Corbyn over.

I think the UK swinged very right for a time, a combination of a long period of financial upset and fear of terrorisum meant a lot of people were looking for someone else to blame but we've seen what that looks like now and we're coming back from the brink.

Stop watching the news.

This.

I check the odd online report when something has happened, but don't watch the news everyday.

DON'T CALL ME BOY!

People are upset and scared/uncertain in the light of the shambolic election and recent tragedies, but the only people wanting a revolution are the media and a few idiots.

Turned off the news last night for the first time in decades. It wasn't news. It was exploitative voyeurism interspersed with premature speculation, all designed to fill a 24 hour news schedule, but just giving unnecessary exposure to the idiots.

"Swinged"............now that is something worth getting angry about. Not to mention the comma abuse in the paragraph above. This is Britain don't you know!!

I seem to remember he's a teacher. Apologies if I'm wrong, but scary if I'm right!

I once remembered someone say that for Les Dawson to play the piano so badly, he actually had to be really good.

I'm pretty angry to be honest. I'm not affected at all by this other than being repulsed that the building owners would have known an were not forced to make the building legal, it's basically a slum from the looks. Corners were cut in the management and maintenance of the building. Now a lot people are dead because of a flipping faulty fridge.

kennyp - Member
"Swinged"............now that is something worth getting angry about. Not to mention the comma abuse in the paragraph above. This is Britain don't you know!!

I find your use of double exclamation marks very disturbing.

[not serious]Unfitgeezer you forgot the cyclists. Everybody's ****ing livid with the cyclists. The tax dodging, red light dodging, uninsured scum.

Forget May, Corbyn, Brexit, Trump and Putin, ignore IS, the PLO and the gas board. You are ignoring the only true justifiable rage.

I don't think the British will riot, we are too apathetic and we are busy sitting in watching millionaires kicking a bag of wind round on the telly or sat in the pub with a warm beer or wasting time on a cycling forum (rumbled).[\not serious]

I do genuinely wonder if we're headed for a bit more civil unrest and protest but equally I'm not convinced we will see a miners strike part Deux either. I may well be wrong ...

In the meantime it's time to get on with living.

I wonder when the electrical system was last tested in that block.

I'm with Rusty Spanner - disappointed.

Judging by the Bolshevik like rumblings in another thread on where trousers are made I suspect you may be onto something.

I don't think the British will riot, we are too apathetic and we are sitting in watching millionaires kicking a bag of wind round on the telly.

People seem pretty rioty at the moment, Kensington and Chelsea Council offices stormed by protests and now they are at at downing Street..

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-fire-protests-downing-street-theresa-may-must-go-chants-latest-news-a7794271.html ]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-fire-protests-downing-street-theresa-may-must-go-chants-latest-news-a7794271.html[/url]

I don't see revolution on the way, not with apathy as widespread as it is and surveillance at an unbelievable all time high.

Lots of us are angry for lots of disparate reasons, none of which are sufficient for us to take up the cudgel though. I have often wondered how bad it needs to get before the pitchforks and torches march, but I'd say we are a long way off yet. Not enough of us left that knew how free this country used to be and at an age where we could still raise arms.

[quote=mattyfez said]I don't think the British will riot, we are too apathetic and we are sitting in watching millionaires kicking a bag of wind round on the telly.
People seem pretty rioty at the moment, Kensington and Chelsea Council offices stormed by protests and now they are at at downing Street..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-fire-protests-downing-street-theresa-may-must-go-chants-latest-news-a7794271.html

The locals knocked those Socialist Worker banners up pretty quickly.

I find your use of double exclamation marks very disturbing.

Why???

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I suspect middle class stw forumites are just pissed off to nonchalant

Immigrants refugees and those and those dependent on benefits etc are angry

Why???

Knocked those Socialist Worker banners up pretty quickly.

I'm not sure how blood on your hands, and 'may must go' can be described as 'socialist worker' banners given the situation, I think it's more local people demanding action.

People seem pretty rioty at the moment, Kensington and Chelsea Council offices stormed by protests and now they are at at downing Street..

I wasn't being entirely serious when I wrote the bit about the British being too apathetic.

I think you might have got in before my edit to be fair. I personally think the rioting around a tragic event like that is a bit different to a general culture of civil disobedience without a specific trigger.

I'm no expert in population behaviours though and I live in a relatively affluent bit of the country (not London) which may skew my view.

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I'm not sure how blood on your hands, and 'may must go' can be described as 'socialist worker' banners given the situation, I think it's more local people demanding action.

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I don't think it's general civil disobedience either, these are not art students having a rant.

Confirmation bias OP?

If you look for bad news you'll find it....easily...

Try looking for the good instead.

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Don't think (unfortunately) there will be enough consecutive days of good weather for anything to reach boiling point. No one wants to riot in the rain.
Which means it will be the usual wash out of a British summer.

"The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada."

John Cleese.

@oldracer, have you tried putting sky news on in the last 3 days?
There is aparantly only one bit of news in the whole world.

People are angry, they seek something, someone, anyone to blame, they lash out. It's entirely to be expected - it's part of the grief cycle.

I'm not entirely sure how looting yourself a new telly and a pair of trainers helps overcome that grief or overturn the system though.

Don't watch Sky news!?

Problem solved.

End of thread.

John Cleese.

Or not - http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/terrorismalert.asp

ninfan - Member

I'm not entirely sure how looting yourself a new telly and a pair of trainers..

Oh dear, I don't think anyone is looting, they are protesting about a government that has let them down. Over and over again.

Media outlets will sell bad news as bad news sells better than good.

Change your source of news....

Yeah but it sounds better with JC's voice in my head...

If looting has been reported, please enlighten me. All I've seen from various sources is civil unrest directed against the government.

And i don't blame them one bit.

The night is young.

directed against the government.

Imagine if there was some sort of system where people were asked if they would like to replace the current government with a different one?

Tory Boi getting in a froth over the thought of the old bill in action!

Imagine if there was some sort of system where people were asked if they would like to replace the current government with a different one?

Would that be a system where the current government are in cohorts with the mainstream media so those who are less inquisitive will vote according to what the media says?

It sounds like you're advocating state controlled media, or media controled state, I'm not sure which.

mattyfez - Member

People seem pretty rioty at the moment, Kensington and Chelsea Council offices stormed by protests and now they are at at downing Street..

Ah, riots. Tory governments know what to do about riots. Let it go on for a little bit and cause a load of property damage, then break some heads, throw a load of people in prison for as long as possible, and blame Wanton Criminality. Then tar any peaceful protest with the same brush (ideally provoke a bit more violence at them)

It sounds like you're advocating state controlled media, or media controled state

No. It doesn't.

No. It doesn't

Yes, it does.

I really hope there are not riots, because here's the thing with uncontrolled aggression - someone usually gets hurt, and usually it is someone who is simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Presumably ninfers obvious arousal at the prospect of violence on the streets is driven by a desire to see the police 'get stuck into' a few 'lefties'. Maybe it is part of a desire to see 'society' further disintegrate thus allowing extremist views to gain some traction. Silly.

Luckily I still have some faith in the British people. We have always derided extremists, laughed them off the park with their silly all or nothing childish crap and posturing. We will do so again. That's the problem with being insular with other insular people - you can initiate a circle of escalating frothing until you believe you are really part of something. Step out into the big wide world and people point and laugh. Bless.

Cheap shots about looting televisions - really? And the crowd go 'boooooooooo'? When does the panto horse do his bit - I like that?

Or maybe it's just the prospect of [b]uniforms[/b] that get some people so horny. The bad guys do have such [i]style[/i] after all.....

Ah, riots. Tory governments know what to do about riots. Let it go on for a little bit and cause a load of property damage, then break some heads, throw a load of people in prison for as long as possible, and blame Wanton Criminality. Then tar any peaceful protest with the same brush (ideally provoke a bit more violence at them)

I know, wouldn't it be much better if we followed the example of other EU countries and nipped riots it in the bud by using Water cannon and CS gas?

It is the uniforms, though, isn't it?

Go on, give us a clue..

I reckon it's all those extendable batons....

The people of England are angry- revolution/riots on way ?!?

Why?

Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.

Swoooooooon......

You're sooooo brave......

I hope its a peaceful weekend
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jimjam - Member
Stop watching the news.

Drac - Moderator
I've had to wait 30 mins for my Chinese takeaway, it's an outrage.

Has it arrived BTW?

Just feels a little sad and uncertain, or maybe it's just me as I can't get served in the dam pub.

Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.

😆

I've had three glasses of wine and am going camping tomorrow night.

I'm not angry.

ninfan -
I know, wouldn't it be much better if we followed the example of other EU countries and nipped riots it in the bud by using Water cannon and CS gas?

enfht - 
Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.

A philosophical question, but if enfht hit's a leftie twunt in the face with his keyboard, and it breaks beyond use, is he still a keyboard warrior?

Where d'you live

The Labour stronghold of Enfield. 😀

deadlydarcy - Member
Where d'you live
The Labour stronghold of Enfield.

Howdy neighbour !