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I'm not sure how blood on your hands, and 'may must go' can be described as 'socialist worker' banners given the situation, I think it's more local people demanding action.
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I don't think it's general civil disobedience either, these are not art students having a rant.
Confirmation bias OP?
If you look for bad news you'll find it....easily...
Try looking for the good instead.
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Don't think (unfortunately) there will be enough consecutive days of good weather for anything to reach boiling point. No one wants to riot in the rain.
Which means it will be the usual wash out of a British summer.
"The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada."
John Cleese.
@oldracer, have you tried putting sky news on in the last 3 days?
There is aparantly only one bit of news in the whole world.
People are angry, they seek something, someone, anyone to blame, they lash out. It's entirely to be expected - it's part of the grief cycle.
I'm not entirely sure how looting yourself a new telly and a pair of trainers helps overcome that grief or overturn the system though.
Don't watch Sky news!?
Problem solved.
End of thread.
ninfan - MemberI'm not entirely sure how looting yourself a new telly and a pair of trainers..
Oh dear, I don't think anyone is looting, they are protesting about a government that has let them down. Over and over again.
Media outlets will sell bad news as bad news sells better than good.
Change your source of news....
Yeah but it sounds better with JC's voice in my head...
If looting has been reported, please enlighten me. All I've seen from various sources is civil unrest directed against the government.
And i don't blame them one bit.
The night is young.
directed against the government.
Imagine if there was some sort of system where people were asked if they would like to replace the current government with a different one?
Tory Boi getting in a froth over the thought of the old bill in action!
Imagine if there was some sort of system where people were asked if they would like to replace the current government with a different one?
Would that be a system where the current government are in cohorts with the mainstream media so those who are less inquisitive will vote according to what the media says?
It sounds like you're advocating state controlled media, or media controled state, I'm not sure which.
mattyfez - MemberPeople seem pretty rioty at the moment, Kensington and Chelsea Council offices stormed by protests and now they are at at downing Street..
Ah, riots. Tory governments know what to do about riots. Let it go on for a little bit and cause a load of property damage, then break some heads, throw a load of people in prison for as long as possible, and blame Wanton Criminality. Then tar any peaceful protest with the same brush (ideally provoke a bit more violence at them)
It sounds like you're advocating state controlled media, or media controled state
No. It doesn't.
No. It doesn't
Yes, it does.
I really hope there are not riots, because here's the thing with uncontrolled aggression - someone usually gets hurt, and usually it is someone who is simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Presumably ninfers obvious arousal at the prospect of violence on the streets is driven by a desire to see the police 'get stuck into' a few 'lefties'. Maybe it is part of a desire to see 'society' further disintegrate thus allowing extremist views to gain some traction. Silly.
Luckily I still have some faith in the British people. We have always derided extremists, laughed them off the park with their silly all or nothing childish crap and posturing. We will do so again. That's the problem with being insular with other insular people - you can initiate a circle of escalating frothing until you believe you are really part of something. Step out into the big wide world and people point and laugh. Bless.
Cheap shots about looting televisions - really? And the crowd go 'boooooooooo'? When does the panto horse do his bit - I like that?
Or maybe it's just the prospect of [b]uniforms[/b] that get some people so horny. The bad guys do have such [i]style[/i] after all.....
Ah, riots. Tory governments know what to do about riots. Let it go on for a little bit and cause a load of property damage, then break some heads, throw a load of people in prison for as long as possible, and blame Wanton Criminality. Then tar any peaceful protest with the same brush (ideally provoke a bit more violence at them)
I know, wouldn't it be much better if we followed the example of other EU countries and nipped riots it in the bud by using Water cannon and CS gas?
It is the uniforms, though, isn't it?
Go on, give us a clue..
I reckon it's all those extendable batons....
The people of England are angry- revolution/riots on way ?!?
Why?
Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.
Swoooooooon......
You're sooooo brave......
I hope its a peaceful weekend
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jimjam - Member
Stop watching the news.
Drac - Moderator
I've had to wait 30 mins for my Chinese takeaway, it's an outrage.
Has it arrived BTW?
Just feels a little sad and uncertain, or maybe it's just me as I can't get served in the dam pub.
Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.
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I've had three glasses of wine and am going camping tomorrow night.
I'm not angry.
ninfan -
I know, wouldn't it be much better if we followed the example of other EU countries and nipped riots it in the bud by using Water cannon and CS gas?
Call me old-fashioned but I'd prefer it if we didn't offer up the poor at the burning altar of wealth. You may find less civil unrest as a result.
enfht -
Any leftwing placard-waving twunts marching through my town demanding revolution will get a punch in the face. I say bring it on.
Where d'you live and when are you likely to be watching? 🙂
A philosophical question, but if enfht hit's a leftie twunt in the face with his keyboard, and it breaks beyond use, is he still a keyboard warrior?
Where d'you live
The Labour stronghold of Enfield. 😀
deadlydarcy - Member
Where d'you live
The Labour stronghold of Enfield.
Howdy neighbour !
£7 billion pencilled in for the Houses of Parliament refurbishment
£370 million available for Buckingham Palace refurbishment
£200,000 for installation of life saving sprinklers in a social housing tower block seems like small change.
You can see why people get angry
Call me old-fashioned but I'd prefer it if we didn't offer up the poor at the burning altar of wealth. You may find less civil unrest as a result.
If you remember last time we had major riots, it happened when someone got shot and certain elements of the community didn't want to bother, or weren't interested, in waiting for the facts before laying blame. Turns out that when the facts came out the 'version of events' that was being bandied around at the time was a load of nonsense.
What makes you think that history isn't repeating itself?
£200,000 for installation of life saving sprinklers in a social housing tower block seems like small change.
Yay, fag packet calculations are for winners.
Do we even know if the building could have been converted, structurally? Would it have required a swimming pool sized emergency water tank on the roof? Could the structure take this weight if it wasn't designed for it? I don't know, I'll bet you don't either. That's why we have things like public inquiries.
Howdy neighbour !
Well if 100 miles qualifies as "neighbourly", then howdy back.
Angry? yes but not angry enough to riot I don't think. We do passive aggressive rather than proper aggressive.
Unsettled and scared, yes.
Realising we've thrown all our money, power and political influence away in a fit of utter complacency and consumerism and feeling more than a little bit stupid, yes.
I don't know if it's from leaving London or not but around me I'm certainly hearing some rather strident right-wing views expressed relatively publicly which I've not heard for a long time, but that may just be because I'm living in middle England for the first time in 25+ years.
I think we'd all rather surf the internet, go shopping and watch TV than riot though. The right-wing bigots I know aren't the rioting type - small minded wealthy middle-class middle englanders, all of them...
That said, I suspect most of us on this forum haven't been impacted by austerity as much as other people so maybe we don't realise how hard things are for a lot of people down on the ground...
Yay, fag packet calculations are for winners.
"The British Automatic Fire Sprinkler Association (BAFSA), the trade body for the fire sprinkler industry, said retrofitting Grenfell Tower with sprinklers might have cost £200,000"
Back in your box Tory Boi!
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deadlydarcy - Member
Howdy neighbour !
Well if 100 miles qualifies as "neighbourly", then howdy back.
I live near Enfield
100 miles why my estate is about that size
DD did actually live in Enfield for a few days. I've no idea why he hasn't come back...
I did. It was fun and I met some awesome folk. 😉 But I haven't been back, no.
By strange coincidence I'll be down in brizzle in the next few weeks DD if you fancy a beer...
Holler me up dude. I'll be about.
